A vs AA goal totals

Nonamer · Post by **Nonamer** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:41 pm

Is there a way civil discussion can include why the top goal scorers this year are members of Class A teams? Is it this way every year?

Or is this a poor topic for discussion?

pioneers · Post by **pioneers** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:45 pm

Mostly because the talent level of the competition is less. A lot of the AA teams have more depth and the scoring gets spread around. They don't rely on one player as much.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:10 pm

IMO, better teams are more well rounded. Having two 1st liners that are top in the state in scoring won't get you a state title, but it will get you to the A section finals or first round in state, but in AA it won't do that much as AA teams, as a whole, are deeper.

Roseauverrated · Post by **Roseauverrated** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:10 pm

pioneers wrote:Mostly because the talent level of the competition is less. A lot of the AA teams have more depth and the scoring gets spread around. They don't rely on one player as much.

Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself.

Teak · Post by **Teak** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:18 pm

Roseauverrated wrote:
pioneers wrote:Mostly because the talent level of the competition is less. A lot of the AA teams have more depth and the scoring gets spread around. They don't rely on one player as much.
Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself.

Roseauverrated, interesting name.

I, for one, would be proud of having a school like Roseau in my state. Fewer than 400 students enrolled, and yet playing at the AA level. Why do people like to take cheap shots at such a school? Jealousy??

Notice, there is a lousy in jealousy. With which school are you affiliated?

OP, this is why it is hard to have civil discussions.

HockeyMN1 · Post by **HockeyMN1** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:39 pm

Teak wrote:
Roseauverrated wrote:
pioneers wrote:Mostly because the talent level of the competition is less. A lot of the AA teams have more depth and the scoring gets spread around. They don't rely on one player as much.
Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself.
Roseauverrated, interesting name.

I, for one, would be proud of having a school like Roseau in my state. Fewer than 400 students enrolled, and yet playing at the AA level. Why do people like to take cheap shots at such a school? Jealousy??

Notice, there is a lousy in jealousy. With which school are you affiliated?

OP, this is why it is hard to have civil discussions.

Coming from a total EP supporter (enrollment ~ 31-32 hundred) I completly agree with you Teak, unless Roseauverrated is from Warroad or IF or something like that. But lets keep in mind that this is COMPLETLY off topic and a new thread for this would be much better than continuing this on this thread.

Roseauverrated · Post by **Roseauverrated** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:19 pm

I'm pretty sure we've been over my name many times before. If you have a problem with it, pm me and we'll discuss it there. Don't post it in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with it.

defense · Post by **defense** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:21 pm

Nonamer wrote:Is there a way civil discussion can include why the top goal scorers this year are members of Class A teams? Is it this way every year?

Or is this a poor topic for discussion?

You'll find out that it is probably a poor topic for discussion.....

ACTUALFORMERPLAYER · Post by **ACTUALFORMERPLAYER** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:12 pm

Roseauverrated wrote:I'm pretty sure we've been over my name many times before. If you have a problem with it, pm me and we'll discuss it there. Don't post it in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Every time you post I see it and think it has everything to do with anything you post. Your opinion has no validity when you have a name like that. If you don't like being called out for it get a new account.

Post by **east hockey** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:15 pm

defense wrote:
Nonamer wrote:Is there a way civil discussion can include why the top goal scorers this year are members of Class A teams? Is it this way every year?

Or is this a poor topic for discussion?
You'll find out that it is probably a poor topic for discussion.....

These things rarely go where they're intended to go. Eventually, it disintegrates into one of the following:

1. [fill in the blank] should be playing Class AA.

2. [fill in the blank] has an advantage because they're a private school (or Duluth East

) and recruit.

3. Joey Benek (this year's example, every year there is one prime player who is mentioned) is a cherry-picker who can't play a lick of defense.

Lee

Roseauverrated · Post by **Roseauverrated** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:20 pm

ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote:
Roseauverrated wrote:I'm pretty sure we've been over my name many times before. If you have a problem with it, pm me and we'll discuss it there. Don't post it in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Every time you post I see it and think it has everything to do with anything you post. Your opinion has no validity when you have a name like that. If you don't like being called out for it get a new account.

Where did I say I don't like being called out on it? I'm completely open to discussing this with anyone, just pm me so it doesn't ruin a thread like it is now.

And you're right, my opinion clearly has no validity because two seasons ago when I was one of the few people calling out Roseau to be weaker than everyone hyped them to be, I was proven totally wrong when at state they dominated Hill Murray and BSM right? Oh and last season too when I was calling out Jefferson for not being as good as everyone hyped them to be, I sure got proven wrong when they killed Edina in the section final too right?

ACTUALFORMERPLAYER · Post by **ACTUALFORMERPLAYER** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:53 pm

Roseauverrated wrote:
ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote:
Roseauverrated wrote:I'm pretty sure we've been over my name many times before. If you have a problem with it, pm me and we'll discuss it there. Don't post it in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Every time you post I see it and think it has everything to do with anything you post. Your opinion has no validity when you have a name like that. If you don't like being called out for it get a new account.
Where did I say I don't like being called out on it? I'm completely open to discussing this with anyone, just pm me so it doesn't ruin a thread like it is now.

And you're right, my opinion clearly has no validity because two seasons ago when I was one of the few people calling out Roseau to be weaker than everyone hyped them to be, I was proven totally wrong when at state they dominated Hill Murray and BSM right? Oh and last season too when I was calling out Jefferson for not being as good as everyone hyped them to be, I sure got proven wrong when they killed Edina in the section final too right?

Kind of defensive aren't you. Could you point out a post you made that was positive about a team. Calling every team over rated you'll get a couple right. Where were you three years ago? I can't find any posts of yours predicting Moorhead in the campionship game last year either. BTW, every post you make ruins a thread for me.

Roseauverrated · Post by **Roseauverrated** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:18 am

I think you're greatly exaggerating some of the statements I make. I do not call every team over rated, in fact, the only two teams I have are Jefferson last year and Roseau the year before. Aside from those instances, I've rarely made negative posts about teams. You're simply using the availability heuristic to generalize what all my posts are about.

As far as me somehow ruining every thread for you, am I supposed to care about that or something because it means nothing to me. I think you need to relax and not get so upset about what someone posts on a message board. It's just an opinion, you don't have to freak out about it or anything.

Teak · Post by **Teak** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:58 am

Roseauverrated wrote:I think you need to relax and not get so upset about what someone posts on a message board. It's just an opinion, you don't have to freak out about it or anything.

Maybe you just need to change your moniker and then we will all relax. It sounds like you are the one with the issues. Told everyone how over-rated certain teams were and nobody listened. But you were proved right in the end. Gosh, one of the saddest stories I have ever heard.

As to the OP's question, of course there is the chance that a player in the A system will get more goals/points due to the weaker competition, and the fact that there are fewer squad players, thus more playing time. But I don't see what the problem is. So what?

I think most fans of the sport realise that the best players might not have the most points. Occasionally, someone comes onto these forums and indicates what players are most-highly rated by the NHL. Again, so what?

I enjoy high school ice hockey for the sheer enjoyment of the sport. I played it; I enjoy watching it. I root for those small-town schools whether or not they have the tradition of a Roseau or Warroad.

Of all the sports, ice hockey is the best, bar none. Minnesota has the best high school ice hockey in the nation due to the fact that nearly 160 schools play. That is incredible.

North Dakota also has a great hockey tradition, but there are only 18 teams. On the east coast, it is mostly the well-off parochial and private schools that field teams. If and when a town like Ely or Babbitt or Aurora-Hoyt Lakes loses their high school team, due to low numbers or finances, the whole system loses.

And if Roseau was ever over-rated, it is because that little town/school has such an incredible tradition that it goes before them.

I am done with this thread.

PowerForward25 · Post by **PowerForward25** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:08 am

Teak-

bjspud12 · Post by **bjspud12** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:54 am

Its not our fault class A goalies are brutal

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