Good luck to the Minnesotans in tonight's draft...

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:14 pm

Best of luck to our boys tonight and may one of them end up with the Wild. My sources have said there is an outside chance the Wild will trade the 12th pick and move down in the draft to the 17th-20th pick, plus accumulate a 3rd rounder, and don't be surprised if they nab Zach Budish.

The Wild don't anticpate Jordan Schroeder falling to 12, as despite his size, his skill warants a top 8 selection. Look for the Wild to move the pick if Schroeder is gone.

Leddy is a possibility if the Wild move down, and it's not out of the possibility the Wild move down twice. Without a 2nd and 3rd pick, Chuck Fletcher knows our farm system is lacking talent. With the uptempo style Todd Richards employs. Leddy has been mentioned for his ability to move the puck up the ice.

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:56 pm

Well, done, Chuck. Seeing the movement on Defensemen, Schroeder is falling. He acquired a much needed 3rd rounder... But, don't count out trading again. There are a few players that were behind Schroeder in the rankings that have been drafted higher, so, this scenario may still play out where there's another trade...

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:02 pm

My sources are saying don't rule out a potential trade with New Jersey with a potential for the Wild to reacquire the second round pick that was traded to Jersey... which would be the 73rd pick.

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:07 pm

So much for your sources. Looks like the Wild will get him at #16 and got a few picks for moving down. Smart move since Riser emptied the cupboard.

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:14 pm

youngblood08 wrote:So much for your sources. Looks like the Wild will get him at #16 and got a few picks for moving down. Smart move since Riser emptied the cupboard.

Excuse me Youngblood?? Did I not say that they would trade down to 17-20 and get a 3rd rounder?? They traded to 16th and got a 3rd rounder. I am not convinced they will now take Schroeder at 16 and will work the phones to move down again..

Despite his injury, the Wild do have a lot of interest in Budish.

As I said during the course of the season, with the debate between leddy and Budish is that the NHL teams put a premium on Def as 6 of the top 14 selections are Def.

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:24 pm

As I said, The NHLers place a premium on Def... and as I said in my original post... Look for the Wild to select Nick Leddy. However, I expected them to grab him in the 20s...... not 16, and not ahead of Schroeder. My preference was Schroeder. My sources are awfully good, Youngblood.

brandy38 · Post by **brandy38** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:25 pm

I'm a bit surprised to see the Wild pick Leddy over Schroeder, but it's still a good pick. Good PR move at the same time.

Ontheice · Post by **Ontheice** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:27 pm

I think it is a ridiculous pick and am sorry to see the new regime start this way.

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:32 pm

Ontheice wrote:I think it is a ridiculous pick and am sorry to see the new regime start this way.

I am not going to say it's a ridiculous pick, because Leddy has some talent and skill. The Wild need forwards.. they need playmakers.... My sources are telling me that Schroeder was passed, strictly because of his size.

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:37 pm

You threw some stuff at the wall and some of it stuck. You also stated they could take Buddish.........wait you stated they could take Schroeder......no, no you stated they like Leddy's ability to move the puck.

Could there be a little animosity at Mariucci this Fall???? So tell us now does Buddish go before Jordan?? Oh great one????

Ontheice · Post by **Ontheice** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:37 pm

Yes a little emotional. I just think that if you wanted the hometown pick Jordan would have had a greater and more immediate effect both in marketing and in seeing the ice. I also believe there are a dozen or so players who will have at least a great an impact in the NHL as Leddy that will be picked after him and again will do it sooner.

Go Wild!

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:49 pm

youngblood08 wrote:You threw some stuff at the wall and some of it stuck. You also stated they could take Buddish.........wait you stated they could take Schroeder......no, no you stated they like Leddy's ability to move the puck.

Could there be a little animosity at Mariucci this Fall???? So tell us now does Buddish go before Jordan?? Oh great one????

Keep in mind my original post was at 3:15 this afternoon. I gave you the scenarios being played out.

As you can see, as the draft was taking place, my sources kept me updated on the discussions. So, as the selections were made, adjustments were made. Budish was strongly in the discussions, and we will wait to hear what the press conference tells us, when Fletcher is bombarded with "why not Schroeder".

I am merely reporting what my sources have said, for entertainment value. And, at this point, we all will be surprised if Budish gets drafted ahead of Jordan.

My opinion was they should have taken Schroeder. I am convinced that Schroeder's size is what is making his stock drop. He was ranked 4th at one point of North Americans.

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:57 pm

As I also mentioned, there was a possibility the Wild would make a trade with New Jersey to move up and the Wild to get the 23rd pick and a 2nd rounder. Instead, Calgary made the move. I am not sure if the Wild did have discussions with Jersey, but I would have preferred a deal like Calgary got, with the potential Leddy falling to 23rd.

One of my sources did say that it was the Wild who were interested in talking with New Jersey, but it's not confirmed any conversations took place.

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:09 pm

In my eyes they could have used the 2nd rounder on him, if they got that deal.

I feel bad for Jordan as he has proved himself at every level as being one of the best players on the ice. He took a beating in the Jrs last year by the Canadians, but kept coming back. The only thing is moving to the smaller sheet of ice.

The Wild could have taken a smaller project to help the team rather then statisfy the "Hometown" pick.

Congrats to Jordan he gets to stick it up the Wilds rear for yrs to come.

Ontheice · Post by **Ontheice** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:10 pm

Not happy to see Jordan go to Vancouver. SUCKS

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:12 pm

Ontheice wrote:Not happy to see Jordan go to Vancouver. SUCKS

He will look good feeding Gaborik, won't he???

Ontheice · Post by **Ontheice** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:13 pm

midwesthockeyscout wrote:
Ontheice wrote:Not happy to see Jordan go to Vancouver. SUCKS
He will look good feeding Gaborik, won't he???

Ouch!! that was

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:13 pm

Good Point. Who gets Buddi? Chicago? need some size to help Kane.

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:19 pm

[quote="youngblood08"]In my eyes they could have used the 2nd rounder on him, if they got that deal.

Leddy was ranked a first rounder. I erred. I meant to say the deal with Jersey was another 3rd rounder... the 73rd pick.. I said second rounder, but meant third.. As it was, the deal with Calgary, New Jersey got the 84th, I think.

It seems as though the Wild wanted the Defenseman Ryan Ellis, who ironically, is also only 5'8", 5'9". The Wild were convinced that Leddy would have been gone by 23rd pick, because of the rush on Defensemen.

Youngblood... Paying attention to the analysts, and they are confirming the Wild didn't think Leddy would last in the 20s.

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:22 pm

youngblood08 wrote:Good Point. Who gets Buddi? Chicago? need some size to help Kane.

I am hearing he's dropping to the second. My guess is the Gretzky knows about our young athletes, as he drafted Wheeler, and he recognizes the benefits of having the U of M develop his players. Look for Phoenix in the 2nd rd, if he doesn't get picked in the first.

Even though I deal with goalies, my opinion is that both Leddy and Budish need 3 years of college. I am not sure Chicago wants to wait that long for Budish.

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:29 pm

youngblood08 wrote:Good Point. Who gets Buddi? Chicago? need some size to help Kane.

Just saw Budish is up to almost 230 pounds... Good call, Youngblood. I wouldn't be shocked to see it happen with Chicago, but I think they do want someone who will help them sooner.

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:37 pm

10 Defe and only 5 wingers of the first 26 picks. What does that tell you?? It tells me that NHL teams aren't as concerned about big rugged forwards grinding in the corners anymore. Don't get it..

And where are my goalies???????? I am curious to see if and where Michael Lee from Roseau gets drafted. If he does, I would be pleasantly surprised if it's before the 5th round.

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:58 pm

You guys questionng the move are nuts this kid Leddy is a great future prospect for the Wild. Puck moving defensemen are rare commodity in the league. Look at the Pens signing Goli and keeping Letang are key to future success. Schroeder is a very nice forward but defensemen of Leddy stock are a reare bread. If you are flipping a coin it is 50-50 but drafting Leddy is a no brainer. The kid is a Goligoski clone and will have a great future in the NHL.

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:15 pm

Leddy isn't a rare breed, they have stated the same about every Dmen that has been picked so far. Schroeder is a rare breed, and besides that What stage has Leddy proven himself on yet? None. He skated a coupl of times in Toronto with the Blades, Schroeder has been a leader while also being one of the youngest. NDTP, UofM, ST Thomas as an 8th and 9th grader, International Tournaments.

I just think the Wild made a homer pick and we will have to wait 3-5 yrs to see if it works out for Leddy.

Defensemen were the hot ticket this draft.

midwesthockeyscout · Post by **midwesthockeyscout** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:34 pm

Actually, the past few years, ala Eric Johnson going #1 overall a couple years ago, offensive defensemen have dominated the early parts of Round 1 the past couple years. Again, as I stated during the season when the post was made of Budish vs Leddy, how NHL teams drool over quality D. I am not stating Leddy is not worthy of a 1st round pick and a solid player, but by today's standards, only 3 Def in the top 50 players are under 6' tall. Lot of 6'3"+ guys. Leddy has great hands and skating ability, but will he have enough room to skate on NHL sheets of ice, unless he gets alot stronger??

I think the debate, and with my sources are needs of the Wild, and scoring up front is crucial, and who might be more NHL ready. I feel it's Schroeder, but as my sources stated during the first round, Jordan's stock dropped, due to his size.

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Good luck to the Minnesotans in tonight's draft...

Good luck to the Minnesotans in tonight's draft...

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