Final 16 & 17 Rosters

nickel slots · Post by **nickel slots** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:53 pm

16s:
Ben Bahe F Hill Murray
Kevin Becker F Hill Murray
Travis Boyd F Hopkins
Dan Carlson F Maple Grove
Anthony Greco F Shattuck St. Mary's Prep
Christian Horn F Benilde- St. Margaret's
Cullen Hurley F Holy Angels
Thomas Schutt F Minnetonka
Michael Sit F Edina
Michael Zajac F Eagan
James Cotroneo D Hill Murray
Max Everson D Edina
Taylor Fleming D St. Thomas Academy
Mitch Hall D St. Cloud Tech
Dan Molenaar D Eden Prairie
Kevin Schulze D Hill Murray
Bodhi Engum G Burnsville
Matt McNeely G St. Thomas Academy

17s:
Joey Benik F St. Francis
Nick Bjugstad F Blaine
Jason Clark F Shattuck St. Mary's Prep
Max Gardiner F Minnetonka
Garret Hendrickson F Virginia
Adam Knochenmus F Roseau
Kyle Rau F Eden Prairie
A J Reid F St. Thomas Academy
Derek Forbort D Duluth East
Justin Holl D Minnetonka
David Jarrett D Edina
Ben Marshall D Mathomedi
Jeffrey Pauluk D Bloomington Jefferson
Zane Gothberg G Thief River Falls

justafan2 · Post by **justafan2** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:18 pm

same names, just a different year

pondhockey20 · Post by **pondhockey20** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:23 pm

how is andy welinski offered a spot in ann arbor but not on the Minnesota 16's team. sounds like you have to be buddy buddy with the evaluators to make these teams. If Ann Arbor wants you, you're the top of you age group in your own state.

thiscrazygame · Post by **thiscrazygame** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:26 pm

justafan2 wrote:same names, just a different year

Actually it isn't the same names. Seven are returning and seven are new at least for the 17's. Pretty surprised that Isackson isn't on the list. I thought he would be an automatic. Well I guess no one is a shoe in.

High Flyer · Post by **High Flyer** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:04 pm

thiscrazygame wrote:
justafan2 wrote:same names, just a different year :roll:
Actually it isn't the same names. Seven are returning and seven are new at least for the 17's. Pretty surprised that Isackson isn't on the list. I thought he would be an automatic. Well I guess no one is a shoe in.

and 8 returning from last years for the 16's

grandrapids23 · Post by **grandrapids23** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:25 pm

are there alternates?

High Flyer · Post by **High Flyer** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:15 pm

pondhockey20 wrote:how is andy welinski offered a spot in ann arbor but not on the Minnesota 16's team. sounds like you have to be buddy buddy with the evaluators to make these teams. If Ann Arbor wants you, you're the top of you age group in your own state.

Welinski has some very good upside. I think Ann Arbor sees this "potential" in him. I think the final 54 evalutions where not based on a players potential.

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:39 pm

Eyes

are finally starting to open for some! (Joey Benik)

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:22 pm

MrBoDangles wrote:Eyes are finally starting to open for some! (Joey Benik)

Benik making it and Isaakson not making it shocks the he11 out of me!

MnPride2 · Post by **MnPride2** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:51 pm

The Exiled One wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:Eyes are finally starting to open for some! (Joey Benik)
Benik making it and Isaakson not making it shocks the he11 out of me!

That`s to bad for Christian,he`s a hell of a lot better than Benik!!

selloutcrowd99 · Post by **selloutcrowd99** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:52 pm

The Exiled One wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:Eyes are finally starting to open for some! (Joey Benik)
Benik making it and Isaakson not making it shocks the he11 out of me!

...moer like Hendrickson

hockeyhockey44 · Post by **hockeyhockey44** » Fri May 01, 2009 7:29 am

selloutcrowd99 wrote:
The Exiled One wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:Eyes are finally starting to open for some! (Joey Benik)
Benik making it and Isaakson not making it shocks the he11 out of me!
...moer like Hendrickson

yeah good call

thiscrazygame · Post by **thiscrazygame** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:01 pm

Congrats to those that made it. You must have played really well to get on this team.

hockeyfaninnd · Post by **hockeyfaninnd** » Fri May 01, 2009 2:34 pm

I know a kid named Luke Gerding tried out for 17's he seemed to be pretty good. Does anyone know anything about him?

MrBoDangles · Post by **MrBoDangles** » Fri May 01, 2009 3:52 pm

The Exiled One wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:Eyes are finally starting to open for some! (Joey Benik)
Benik making it and Isaakson not making it shocks the he11 out of me!

Isaakson not making it is a shocker! All the St Francis pull must have gotten Benik in.......

hockeyboys · Post by **hockeyboys** » Fri May 01, 2009 3:59 pm

is this the first indication that we will never see Isakson in a gopher uniform?

RLStars · Post by **RLStars** » Fri May 01, 2009 4:49 pm

hockeyfaninnd wrote:I know a kid named Luke Gerding tried out for 17's he seemed to be pretty good. Does anyone know anything about him?

Sup Luke? How's it going for u?

GreenisGood · Post by **GreenisGood** » Fri May 01, 2009 7:16 pm

I am very surprised not to see..
Patterson or Crandalls name on there.
Those 2 impressed me the most on there team
(along with bjugstad? of course)

behonestbenice · Post by **behonestbenice** » Fri May 01, 2009 7:27 pm

Wow will Christian not see a Gopher uniform?
The answer absolutely he will see a Gopher uniform.
One selection committee and one weekend doesnt make careers.
Go look through old threads they have been out there for years, Blake Wheeler never made the final national camp. He not only wore a Gopher uniform he now could be a Clader Cup winner. Hobey Winner this year never at a national camp or drafted now he is Hobey, Final Four Champ and one of the most wanted free agents ever. Why would not being picked for one tournament take away from everything he has done and how very good of a hockey player he is. Mark your post in 3-4 years you will be congratulating him for being a key player in the Gophers program.
If not remind me I was wrong but I dont think so on this one. I would be shocked.

shooter57 · Post by **shooter57** » Fri May 01, 2009 8:57 pm

17s:
Joey Benik F St. Francis
Nick Bjugstad F Blaine
Jason Clark F Shattuck St. Mary's Prep
Max Gardiner F Minnetonka
Garret Hendrickson F Virginia
Adam Knochenmus F Roseau
Kyle Rau F Eden Prairie
A J Reid F St. Thomas Academy
Derek Forbort D Duluth East
Justin Holl D Minnetonka
David Jarrett D Edina
Ben Marshall D Mathomedi
Jeffrey Pauluk D Bloomington Jefferson
Zane Gothberg G Thief River Falls
_________________

What am i missing here? Why the shortend line up? 14 players? 2lines 2sets of D? And 1 tender? Why not a FULL lineup? Is this part of a master plan? This is the kind of thing that has many of us smelling the stench of under handedness and unfairness. If i were handling these teams, they would have the maximum number of players and then some, so they all could reap the benefits and gain from the experience. who are they saving for? Be upfront. Shouldnt have anything to hide because this is supposed to be about the kids!

Papa Bergundy · Post by **Papa Bergundy** » Sun May 03, 2009 12:29 pm

Is Hill going to be that good? Four players on the 16s national team?

I dont know any of them, or how they play before you accuse me. I just find it odd that a team could have that many solid 93's. More power to them I guess.

To the same token, there aren't any major snubs on the list. Maybe the 17s should have taken a few more player, imo, but so it goes. No glaring holes in the teams which we ought to expect out of the all star team from the state of hockey.

Doglover · Post by **Doglover** » Sun May 03, 2009 3:36 pm

Also surprised to see so many HM kids on 16 roster.

But Papa...don't be so sure there weren't several snubs!

Murphy · Post by **Murphy** » Sun May 03, 2009 5:19 pm

Papa Bergundy wrote:Is Hill going to be that good? Four players on the 16s national team?

Three of those four Hill Murray kids were on last year's Adv 15 roster for Nationals.

RLStars · Post by **RLStars** » Mon May 04, 2009 7:19 am

Murphy wrote:
Papa Bergundy wrote:Is Hill going to be that good? Four players on the 16s national team?
Three of those four Hill Murray kids were on last year's Adv 15 roster for Nationals.

Just remember with the new transfer rules, they have to recruit much earlier now to get them to transfer their freshman year so they can play varsity right away and not have to sit out a year.

Factsmatter1 · Post by **Factsmatter1** » Mon May 04, 2009 1:31 pm

Doglover wrote:Also surprised to see so many HM kids on 16 roster.

But Papa...don't be so sure there weren't several snubs!

I think DL is correct. The strength of the RED 16 D resulted in an advantage to average Red 16 forwards and resulted in the evaluators to over value RED forwards and undervalue the other two teams forwards. Accordingly, I think they got 70% of the forwards right and close to 90% of the D right. It is very clear they didn't check High School stats because some of the final kids selected performed poorly over a 25 game High School schedule...

They also should have picked 12 forwards and 8 D, 10/6 is too tight. Kind of stupid not to do this and particularly after they advertised 20-24 kids... Hope there are no pissed off lawyer dads...

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