Best 95 teams this summer?

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:07 pm

dingle wrote:
e trny/game result top 10
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1. Blades
2. Breakaway
3. Lake Superior Stars
4. Edge
5. Easton Stealth
6. Icemen
7. Easton Synergy
8. Magicians
9. Cyclone/christian Bros
10. Acceleration/ ccm

I have seen most of the 1995 teams throughout the years. I don't believe that sunglasses knows what he is talking about with the list of 10 teams. First of all the easton teams will only have one team this year and looks like that team will be very weak. The icemen should be higher on the list, they played a great game against the 95 machine last summer. The edge team is ranked too high, this is the old vipers team pretty much that would beat up the showcase league. Magicians should not be on the list, unless they dramatically changed, they would take machine kids to play with them in open tournaments. Is the christian brothers team now cyclone/legacy? They were pretty good and I would rank them above the easton teams. Acceleration team has been pretty weak, wouldn't have them on this list.

They have, they are basically the Mission team from last summer with a few nice additions. Not Top 5, but definitely Top 20.

dingle · Post by **dingle** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:40 pm

They have, they are basically the Mission team from last summer with a few nice additions. Not Top 5, but definitely Top 20.

I thought that the missions best player last year is now playing for the snipers. I am sure that the mission team would pick up top loaner players for their open tournaments also.

Is team rbk still around, how will they be, they had a few good players, but team wise was pretty weak last summer.

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:36 am

dingle wrote:
They have, they are basically the Mission team from last summer with a few nice additions. Not Top 5, but definitely Top 20.
I thought that the missions best player last year is now playing for the snipers. I am sure that the mission team would pick up top loaner players for their open tournaments also.

Is team rbk still around, how will they be, they had a few good players, but team wise was pretty weak last summer.

Yep, they are still around (coached by PJ Atherton) and will be playing next w-end in the Warrior Cup along with The Edge and Magicians (Mission). Looking at the brackets, I would say that one of those three teams will probably end up winning it.

puckheads · Post by **puckheads** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:45 pm

There is only two good 95 teams the Breakaway and the blades. The breakaway will even be better this year getting away from min made. Dave has the respect of all the kids that play for him because he does it for the right reasons.NOT THE MONEY. His team was 3 and 1 or 4and 1 against the blades last year they are clearly the best in that age group.

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:13 pm

puckheads wrote:There is only two good 95 teams the Breakaway and the blades. The breakaway will even be better this year getting away from min made. Dave has the respect of all the kids that play for him because he does it for the right reasons.NOT THE MONEY. His team was 3 and 1 or 4and 1 against the blades last year they are clearly the best in that age group.

Those two are probably the best 95 teams, but not the only "good" ones. The Icemen and LSS are also pretty good, if you ask me, along with a handful of other teams.

dingle · Post by **dingle** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:20 pm

muck, I agree, blades/breakaway besides the top line on each team, players are interchangeable with other top teams, will be interesting to see which one can claim being the top team behind them two. A battle for third.

iwearmysunglassesatnight · Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:17 pm

blades / machine top lines are kids probably playing high school next year, one of them already has.

dingle · Post by **dingle** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:19 pm

Any updated lists?

drhook · Post by **drhook** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:50 pm

i wouldnt say that the top lines on each team carry their team, just because some kids grow to be 6 foot 2 at the age of 13 doesnt mean they will make the nhl. Also the blades and the breakaway have great talent on their 2nd 3rd and 4th lines

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:55 am

drhook wrote:i wouldnt say that the top lines on each team carry their team, just because some kids grow to be 6 foot 2 at the age of 13 doesnt mean they will make the nhl. Also the blades and the breakaway have great talent on their 2nd 3rd and 4th lines

Maybe not the NHL, but my bet is that a good number of players from both the Blades and Breakaway will be playing NCAA Division I hockey in the not-too-distant future.

drhook · Post by **drhook** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:23 pm

it all depends on how hard they work

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:53 am

drhook wrote:it all depends on how hard they work

True, but I still think that you will see a handful of players of that team playing Division I....first and foremost, HF and IM. Those two should have the size and skill and from what I can see, the hustle and determination.

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:12 am

I agree with Hudson and Ian...but another 5 years from now you will see alot more than a those 2 playing college hockey from the 95 birth year ranks. If I had to pick now - I could rattle of 20 kids who have potential - All depends on how bad the kids want it

Amazing what 5 years can do to a 13/14 yr kid - EH..?

I think Nick Leddy would be a excellent example. Not sure if he was a TOP, TOP 13/14 year old - but going from a great player at age 13/14 (5'3 & 115lbs) to the number 16 draft pick in the world!!. (6 bills & 180)......Not bad!!

goaliewithfoggedglasses · Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:41 pm

SuperStar wrote:I agree with Hudson and Ian...but another 5 years from now you will see alot more than a those 2 playing college hockey from the 95 birth year ranks. If I had to pick now - I could rattle of 20 kids who have potential - All depends on how bad the kids want it

Amazing what 5 years can do to a 13/14 yr kid - EH..? I think Nick Leddy would be a excellent example. Not sure if he was a TOP, TOP 13/14 year old - but going from a great player at age 13/14 (5'3 & 115lbs) to the number 16 draft pick in the world!!. (6 bills & 180)......Not bad!!

He got no love from this poster (best D thread 1/13/06):

snipes wrote:nick leddy are you kidding me? he used to be good in squirts but i dont think hes a top defencemen these days. <p></p><i></i>

And no mention on this "Best Bantam A's" thread from Feb 06:

http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic. ... nick+leddy

But soon thereafter his name pops up on the search more often/favorably.

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:52 pm

Thats pretty crazy that he did not get mentioned at all on a Bantam Dream Team. I don't ever put a lot of stock into what people say on this forum, but according to that thread. NO mention of Leddy to the Number 1# US kid picked ...Something to think about.

Like I said - It will interesting in 5 years to see how this 95 aged kids shake out..

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:36 pm

SuperStar wrote:I agree with Hudson and Ian...but another 5 years from now you will see alot more than a those 2 playing college hockey from the 95 birth year ranks. If I had to pick now - I could rattle of 20 kids who have potential - All depends on how bad the kids want it

Amazing what 5 years can do to a 13/14 yr kid - EH..? I think Nick Leddy would be a excellent example. Not sure if he was a TOP, TOP 13/14 year old - but going from a great player at age 13/14 (5'3 & 115lbs) to the number 16 draft pick in the world!!. (6 bills & 180)......Not bad!!

I agree...there are quite a few more 95's out there that I think have the potential (admittedly, I'm no expert)...but Meyer, Cammarata, Reno, Raskop, Voltin, Hurley, etc...I could go on and on with the players who are looking good right now.

As far as Leddy goes, you're right. He was a 5'3" 115 lbs freshmen at Eden Prarie. He grew over 8" and gained nearly 60 pounds in a couple of years, which made all the difference..I'm sure there will be other examples of other players that grow in both skills and physical size during these next couple of years as well. But the top players are already on the radar screens of most college scouts.

As far as his summer AAA years, I believe he played with the Icemen program...but I'm not 100% certain of that.

goaliewithfoggedglasses · Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:16 pm

SuperStar wrote:Thats pretty crazy that he did not get mentioned at all on a Bantam Dream Team. I don't ever put a lot of stock into what people say on this forum, but according to that thread. NO mention of Leddy to the Number 1# US kid picked ...Something to think about.

Like I said - It will interesting in 5 years to see how this 95 aged kids shake out..

Those old posts are kind of fun. For example, this screen name was Zach Buddish posting during his 2nd year Bantam A season. (at least he claims to be that is, and judging from the content it seems very likely)

grizisastud wrote:I'm Zach Budish from Edina. Thanks, Everson just knows how to put the puck away a LITTLE bit against Lee especially. 4 goals the first time and now 3 the second. It's not too hard for me when I pass him the puck, 9 out of 10 are in the back of the net.

http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic. ... ght=#99318

Searching by author yields about 6 pages of posts. Interesting to see back into the mind of a 15 year old future draftee if it really was him. (slow work day, can you tell?)

drhook · Post by **drhook** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:39 am

what I dont get is how some idiots can predict who will make it into the nhl it just does'nt make any sense to me

observer · Post by **observer** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:39 am

Can you say AJ Thelen?

There's no guarantee that Leddy, Budish, or even Shroeder, will ever play in the NHL.

Hobie Baker winner Brian Bonin was every bit as impressive as Shroeder wearing Maroon & Gold and never got a sniff.

sorno82 · Post by **sorno82** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:27 pm

Hobie Baker winner Brian Bonin was every bit as impressive as Shroeder wearing Maroon & Gold and never got a sniff.

He did get a sniff, but that is about it. He had 12 NHL games and may have played in Gretzky's last game as a pro.

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:09 pm

drhook wrote:what I dont get is how some idiots can predict who will make it into the nhl it just does'nt make any sense to me

Who's talking NHL? I think we've been talking College Hockey here......

eastsideguy · Post by **eastsideguy** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:48 am

Bonin was awesome around the net but unlike Shroeder, Bonins ultimate downfall was his inability to skate at the next level

Doglover · Post by **Doglover** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:32 am

Bottom line - there is still a lot of time for the '95s to grow, get stronger, get distracted, etc. No telling who the top players will be by the time these boys are seniors much less ready for Division 1. Dads can come on here and promote their players all they want, but it won't make it happen for them. The kids need to want it for themselves and be willing to work hard enough to achieve it. At 14-15 years of age, there are so many factors to consider. The ones at the top of the pack now have the advantage but it's up to them what they do with that. Many kids that got big young and were launched to the head of the pack as a result, may find themselves losing ground in HS if their skills and desire don't keep pace when the other kids hit their growing spurts. Prepare your players - manage expectations - they need to be the ones who want to succeed beyond HS.

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:15 pm

Doglover wrote:Bottom line - there is still a lot of time for the '95s to grow, get stronger, get distracted, etc. No telling who the top players will be by the time these boys are seniors much less ready for Division 1. Dads can come on here and promote their players all they want, but it won't make it happen for them. The kids need to want it for themselves and be willing to work hard enough to achieve it. At 14-15 years of age, there are so many factors to consider. The ones at the top of the pack now have the advantage but it's up to them what they do with that. Many kids that got big young and were launched to the head of the pack as a result, may find themselves losing ground in HS if their skills and desire don't keep pace when the other kids hit their growing spurts. Prepare your players - manage expectations - they need to be the ones who want to succeed beyond HS.

All what you say is true, but it's not too early to start projecting...hell, I know for a fact that most college scouts have files already started on the top 95's right now...It's about at this age (14-15) that the elite players start to seperate themselves from the pack.

Does that mean it's too late for others to join that elite group? Of course not...

In Canada, it's the 14-15 year olds that are being scouted and soon to be drafted in into the CHL (Major Junior), so why would it be a stretch to start projecting which 14-15 American kids looks like the strong favorites to play Division 1 hockey?

Disclaimer: I do NOT have a son rostered on Breakaway or the Blades, nor could I ever imagine that any of my sons would one day play anything more competitive than a local men's league after they finish high school hockey.

Doglover · Post by **Doglover** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:38 am

You're spot on!!

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