This issue in my opinion (having both a son and daughter) is even more important to the girls. I wish somehow this could get on the Minnesota Hockey upcoming agenda.
I really feel it needs to be looked at differently for the 2 sexes.
Many Associations have number issues with girls hockey more so then boys. Often digging 2 grades deep to fill their rosters. Sometimes teams at the 10, 12 and 14 level have first years skaters on the team irregardless of A or B level. An even bigger problem is girls not touching a stick the entire off season whether this be the garage or a clinic.
Boys team filter through much of this riff raff with A,B and C teams.
Many girl teams consistantly loose games barely eeking out a win unless it's a cherry picked scrimmaged. 90% loosing seasons aren't all that uncommon.
Often these teams have 1 or 2 talented girls suffering as a result.
My daughter works so hard, practices, shoots daily, skates countless hours with huge aspirations only to be let down by her uncommitted teammates playing hockey for the sake of being with the girls.
It's hopeless. There's no light at the end of the tunnel. There's no hope that I as a parent become more involved in obtaining change. There's no hope to inspire other kids/families to give a crap.
Unless MN Hockey and associations recognize this problem and allows waivers, our only solution appears to be: Private School or moving. Talk about a screwed up system (especially for girls). Help me, is this right? All for hockey. We don't want to move, we just want her to play competitive hockey in the winter season. Sure AAA is on our menu but the 100 hours she skates during the winter season appear to be pointless and causing a regression. Obviously she can't wait for the winter seasons to be over (which I understand is often the case with boys). Why is it necessary to force girls into a hapless situation. Help, any advise?
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Hockeydaddy
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I think it's a good idea which would probably be abused. Say Shakopee has three A players, Prior Lake has five, Chaska/Chan has five, they get together and challenge EP and Edina. Great, but when they start winning, communities like those decide to import "just a couple" players. Soon, Eden Prairie bumps a deserving kid to take that Bloomington girl, and all hell breaks loose.
Things even out starting at U12. But it's tough for parents who don't want to wait.
Things even out starting at U12. But it's tough for parents who don't want to wait.
You may be right in general on "evening out at U12". However, she will be U12 this next season and IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE BAD for 2 more years in her situation. Waiting it won't won't fix it.Hockeydaddy wrote:I think it's a good idea which would probably be abused. Say Shakopee has three A players, Prior Lake has five, Chaska/Chan has five, they get together and challenge EP and Edina. Great, but when they start winning, communities like those decide to import "just a couple" players. Soon, Eden Prairie bumps a deserving kid to take that Bloomington girl, and all hell breaks loose.
Things even out starting at U12. But it's tough for parents who don't want to wait.
Any tips or strategies on getting a waiver signed?
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Go Gophers
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Teams are built from within, not taking the easy way out and waiving. Especially for a first year U12. Challange your daugther into becoming a leader amongst the other girls. It's not too early to start for next years team. Challange the coaches to direct the girls and parents on next years expectations - again not too early to start. Challange yourself as a parent to get involved with the other parents and start setting some goals and expectations for the summer and next years season. The fortunate part at this age level is that even first year skaters develop fairly quickly and every association has access to summer camps that are reasonable in price. Every kid and parent have buttons, you just have to figure out how and which one to push.
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InigoMontoya
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Is that really the best you guys can offer to mnhcp? Either push the parents buttons or play with the boys? Really?
At U12 this fall 4 or 5 of the girls will be first time skaters (hopefully they figure skated), so go find out the kids that may play and talk to their parents about stickhandling in the driveway? Those girls will 'catch up'?
Or better, have her go play full contact hockey with her brother?
At U12 this fall 4 or 5 of the girls will be first time skaters (hopefully they figure skated), so go find out the kids that may play and talk to their parents about stickhandling in the driveway? Those girls will 'catch up'?
Or better, have her go play full contact hockey with her brother?
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Go Gophers
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Glad to see you saved the day with your insightfulness.InigoMontoya wrote:Is that really the best you guys can offer to mnhcp? Either push the parents buttons or play with the boys? Really?
At U12 this fall 4 or 5 of the girls will be first time skaters (hopefully they figure skated), so go find out the kids that may play and talk to their parents about stickhandling in the driveway? Those girls will 'catch up'?
Or better, have her go play full contact hockey with her brother?
Pushing people's button's is another way of saying motivation. Motivation to get into summer camps, playing softball with a goalie and even stick handling in the driveway.
I don't know about anybody else's intent but mine was not meant to push a button or recommend playing with boys. mnhcp's question was about waivers. My point was that you don't need a waiver to play peewees in your own association. If you need to waive out, most DD's will approve a waiver if signed by the prez's of the outgoing and incoming associations. If either or both prez's refuse to sign you can appeal to the DD but there is no telling what they may do based upon info fed to them by all three parties involved. I think the only advice is to work within your association or if you can afford it, sell your house and move to an association that is stronger/deeper.InigoMontoya wrote:Is that really the best you guys can offer to mnhcp? Either push the parents buttons or play with the boys? Really?
Rocketman,
I know you don't need to waive out to play with the boys in your own association. The point is no one allows waivers unless they waive to a B team (other associations rules). It is easier and you don't need to sell a house (which is pretty hard these days) to play with the boys. My daughter was in the same situation 2 years ago. She played PWB as a 1st year and made the PWA team the 2nd year only to opt out in November to play varsity hockey.
The boys were good to her (not necessarily the opponents) and she learned physical play (puck seperation and confidence). The speed of the game was good for her and she learned to skate with her head up. She played a regular shift and only had 4 penalties (it didn't turn her into a goon) at the varsity level.
I know you don't need to waive out to play with the boys in your own association. The point is no one allows waivers unless they waive to a B team (other associations rules). It is easier and you don't need to sell a house (which is pretty hard these days) to play with the boys. My daughter was in the same situation 2 years ago. She played PWB as a 1st year and made the PWA team the 2nd year only to opt out in November to play varsity hockey.
The boys were good to her (not necessarily the opponents) and she learned physical play (puck seperation and confidence). The speed of the game was good for her and she learned to skate with her head up. She played a regular shift and only had 4 penalties (it didn't turn her into a goon) at the varsity level.
There's no team thats going to be built. In a couple years several of the girls are going to private schools anyways. So idealistic. Coaches don't have much to work with. We've pushed the buttons to no result. So how would you suggest we take the easy way out?Go Gophers wrote:Teams are built from within, not taking the easy way out and waiving. Especially for a first year U12. Challange your daugther into becoming a leader amongst the other girls. It's not too early to start for next years team. Challange the coaches to direct the girls and parents on next years expectations - again not too early to start. Challange yourself as a parent to get involved with the other parents and start setting some goals and expectations for the summer and next years season. The fortunate part at this age level is that even first year skaters develop fairly quickly and every association has access to summer camps that are reasonable in price. Every kid and parent have buttons, you just have to figure out how and which one to push.
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Sounds like your in a world of Elephant dooty! "Easy way out" was not a slam, but more of a remark to encourage all involved to do everything they possibly can to make the situation better. Obviously you have very few options. Good Luck!mnhcp wrote:There's no team thats going to be built. In a couple years several of the girls are going to private schools anyways. So idealistic. Coaches don't have much to work with. We've pushed the buttons to no result. So how would you suggest we take the easy way out?Go Gophers wrote:Teams are built from within, not taking the easy way out and waiving. Especially for a first year U12. Challange your daugther into becoming a leader amongst the other girls. It's not too early to start for next years team. Challange the coaches to direct the girls and parents on next years expectations - again not too early to start. Challange yourself as a parent to get involved with the other parents and start setting some goals and expectations for the summer and next years season. The fortunate part at this age level is that even first year skaters develop fairly quickly and every association has access to summer camps that are reasonable in price. Every kid and parent have buttons, you just have to figure out how and which one to push.
Knight,
Just curious if your comment about waiving to a B team is based on a documented rule by an association or if they just get away with it by declaring that the evaluators see things that way. If it is an association rule they are probably in violation of the waiver rule (and I'm sure that it happens sometimes). The rumors in our program puts the number of waivers between 6&10 waivers in and 2-4 waivers out for youth and girls. For sure one of the waived in girls played on our 12UA team and one on the 10UA team. Some others might have played 12UB and 10UB. Some of the parents whose kids were cut to B teams were not happy. I'm not sure if the waived out kids went to the Fire or to a neighboring program. Have also heard that MNHockey is looking at the waiver rule but I don't know what changes they are considering.
Just curious if your comment about waiving to a B team is based on a documented rule by an association or if they just get away with it by declaring that the evaluators see things that way. If it is an association rule they are probably in violation of the waiver rule (and I'm sure that it happens sometimes). The rumors in our program puts the number of waivers between 6&10 waivers in and 2-4 waivers out for youth and girls. For sure one of the waived in girls played on our 12UA team and one on the 10UA team. Some others might have played 12UB and 10UB. Some of the parents whose kids were cut to B teams were not happy. I'm not sure if the waived out kids went to the Fire or to a neighboring program. Have also heard that MNHockey is looking at the waiver rule but I don't know what changes they are considering.
Mnhcp....I would like to echo Gophers thoughts. I have to admit we are not going through that in Eden Prairie and we have a really deep core group of U12 girls but......it wasn't always that way. I think it started from a couple really motivated girls and just spread like Gopher was mentioning. Now it has become the expected level of committment.Go Gophers wrote:Teams are built from within, not taking the easy way out and waiving. Especially for a first year U12. Challange your daugther into becoming a leader amongst the other girls. It's not too early to start for next years team. Challange the coaches to direct the girls and parents on next years expectations - again not too early to start. Challange yourself as a parent to get involved with the other parents and start setting some goals and expectations for the summer and next years season. The fortunate part at this age level is that even first year skaters develop fairly quickly and every association has access to summer camps that are reasonable in price. Every kid and parent have buttons, you just have to figure out how and which one to push.
Don"t underestimate the impact a single girl or couple of talented girls can have on a team's growth. And the clock is not running down as fast as you might think. These girls are 11 & 12 and just starting to grow their hockey IQ. Nothing is better than seeing a team develope and grow into a competive factor during the year.
I'm a sucker for the Cindarella. I went to Fridley HS; chose the worse D1 program in the country @ Lake Superior State and signed with the worse team in the league. All of us would like to see more Roseau's and TRF growing in the girls hockey ranks...there are lots of resources available in the area to help that happen in your community.
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Rocket78,
My daughter made the PWB team as a 1st year player and played center. The following year she made the PWA team as a wing on the 1st line. We allowed her to tryout for the HS team and she made the varsity. We had told the association at registration that we were going to through the process of the HS Tryouts to see were she would end up and make our decision then.
We only had 12B in our association and she wanted to be challenged. At 10U age she played 12A, the following year her teammates went to the HS program. She wasn't old enough to follow them so it was 12B or PW in our association.
I had contacted several local associations in the area and they said she could only play 12B in their associations. It work out for her in the end but Minnesota Hockey really needs to look at this as I am sure my daughters' situation isn't a first. She would have played girls in 12A as opposed to PW's if associations, DD and MH wasn't so rigid to the rules.
I understand why they are the way they are, but they need to see it isn't working the same for the girls as it works for the boys.
My daughter made the PWB team as a 1st year player and played center. The following year she made the PWA team as a wing on the 1st line. We allowed her to tryout for the HS team and she made the varsity. We had told the association at registration that we were going to through the process of the HS Tryouts to see were she would end up and make our decision then.
We only had 12B in our association and she wanted to be challenged. At 10U age she played 12A, the following year her teammates went to the HS program. She wasn't old enough to follow them so it was 12B or PW in our association.
I had contacted several local associations in the area and they said she could only play 12B in their associations. It work out for her in the end but Minnesota Hockey really needs to look at this as I am sure my daughters' situation isn't a first. She would have played girls in 12A as opposed to PW's if associations, DD and MH wasn't so rigid to the rules.
I understand why they are the way they are, but they need to see it isn't working the same for the girls as it works for the boys.
Knight7,
After reading your reply I went to the Rules on MNHockey's website and was surprised to see no definition of what level a "waived" player may participate at or if they can be limited to a B team. The authors must have left it intentionally vague to allow associations some wiggle room. I guess our association accepts "waived" player with a full member status and the associations that you were talking to were going to treat your kid as a second class member. Guess they want to protect their home grown talent but then wouldn't it be simpler for them to just reject all waivers?
Just curious if your association has a written move up policy. Checked our association's website and could not find one. Our overall hockey director moves his son up a year early. Some years they allow girls to move up a level and this year the 12A coach moved his kid up early. They did post something at registration that said no 12U girls can move up to 14U but the year before it was done. One kid wasn't allowed to move from 10U to 12U but two years later was allowed to move from 12U to 14U. This years 10U kids were told that they have to score in the top 3 at tryouts or go back to 10U...one girl made the 12UA team and was one of the top scorers so it musta been the right move. Our program has had girls on youth teams but for the last few years I think they have only been on house teams.
After reading your reply I went to the Rules on MNHockey's website and was surprised to see no definition of what level a "waived" player may participate at or if they can be limited to a B team. The authors must have left it intentionally vague to allow associations some wiggle room. I guess our association accepts "waived" player with a full member status and the associations that you were talking to were going to treat your kid as a second class member. Guess they want to protect their home grown talent but then wouldn't it be simpler for them to just reject all waivers?
Just curious if your association has a written move up policy. Checked our association's website and could not find one. Our overall hockey director moves his son up a year early. Some years they allow girls to move up a level and this year the 12A coach moved his kid up early. They did post something at registration that said no 12U girls can move up to 14U but the year before it was done. One kid wasn't allowed to move from 10U to 12U but two years later was allowed to move from 12U to 14U. This years 10U kids were told that they have to score in the top 3 at tryouts or go back to 10U...one girl made the 12UA team and was one of the top scorers so it musta been the right move. Our program has had girls on youth teams but for the last few years I think they have only been on house teams.
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blondegirlsdad
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If associations decide to make formal agreements like Kennedy and Jefferson or St. Louis Park/Armstrong, I think it's a better idea than just willy-nilly transferring from one association to the next.
If an association doesn't want to run an A team, what could parents do to push that association into a more formal partnership?
If an association doesn't want to run an A team, what could parents do to push that association into a more formal partnership?
bgd,
I would agree that a partnership (rather than just hunting for a willing A program) makes a lot of sense if a long term plan was put into place. The idea is much easier for metro teams to do compared to outstate. In our part of the state we have one association that's about a 20 minute drive, three that are just over 40 minutes away and the rest are all more than an hour's drive.
If you were going to push for your association to partner up, it makes sense to start with your girls directer and sell them on the need to offer an A program. From there it would be a matter of finding a partner and then selling it to your boards. Now would be the time to start and don't wait too long. I assume that this was a rhetorical question since I thought you were from Edina.
I would agree that a partnership (rather than just hunting for a willing A program) makes a lot of sense if a long term plan was put into place. The idea is much easier for metro teams to do compared to outstate. In our part of the state we have one association that's about a 20 minute drive, three that are just over 40 minutes away and the rest are all more than an hour's drive.
If you were going to push for your association to partner up, it makes sense to start with your girls directer and sell them on the need to offer an A program. From there it would be a matter of finding a partner and then selling it to your boards. Now would be the time to start and don't wait too long. I assume that this was a rhetorical question since I thought you were from Edina.
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To Rocket:
Actually we do have a move up policy. It takes the Girls director, last years coach, next years coach and the ACE director to all agree that said player is absolutely an extraordinare player and needs to be all 4 agreeing she can move up. I challenged it at U10 to move up to U12 as she had 25 goals and 4 assists as a 1st year U10A player and origanally lost.
They relented in the fall as the U12 program was short on numbers (21) for 2 teams. She made the 12A team and was the 2nd leading scorer on the team. The following year all but 3 of the 12A went to the HS and the girls program decided on a B level for the following season. We had a 14B team this year but only 13 B teams in the state to compete with.
To MNHCP:
After all I mentioned in previous posts (PWB/PWA/HS) she ended up making varsity as a 7th grader last season. She had a great year playing with some of the top players in the state on her team. The older players were all good to her and I know of no issues in the lockerrooms. She still hung out with her own peers and kept an A grade average in school. She played in the State Tournament AA and had 2 assists.
In the end it all worked out well for her. She played against teams like Hopkins, Edina, Blake, Proctor, Duluth and many more top teams.
My comment is don't give up and contact your Director know and push him/her to get things straightened out before summer. I tried and everytime things kept being put on the back burner ( that was my perspective). I hope they tried to solve it and it just didn't happen. The problem is there are too many people you need to go through and eventually it gets lost or reshuffled. That's why Minnesota Hockey needs to fix this know so there is only one person to make things happen.
Actually we do have a move up policy. It takes the Girls director, last years coach, next years coach and the ACE director to all agree that said player is absolutely an extraordinare player and needs to be all 4 agreeing she can move up. I challenged it at U10 to move up to U12 as she had 25 goals and 4 assists as a 1st year U10A player and origanally lost.
They relented in the fall as the U12 program was short on numbers (21) for 2 teams. She made the 12A team and was the 2nd leading scorer on the team. The following year all but 3 of the 12A went to the HS and the girls program decided on a B level for the following season. We had a 14B team this year but only 13 B teams in the state to compete with.
To MNHCP:
After all I mentioned in previous posts (PWB/PWA/HS) she ended up making varsity as a 7th grader last season. She had a great year playing with some of the top players in the state on her team. The older players were all good to her and I know of no issues in the lockerrooms. She still hung out with her own peers and kept an A grade average in school. She played in the State Tournament AA and had 2 assists.
In the end it all worked out well for her. She played against teams like Hopkins, Edina, Blake, Proctor, Duluth and many more top teams.
My comment is don't give up and contact your Director know and push him/her to get things straightened out before summer. I tried and everytime things kept being put on the back burner ( that was my perspective). I hope they tried to solve it and it just didn't happen. The problem is there are too many people you need to go through and eventually it gets lost or reshuffled. That's why Minnesota Hockey needs to fix this know so there is only one person to make things happen.
Re: move up policy
Bottom line, the Director is protecting his daughter. No one complains for reasons I've already mentioned. They just don't care that much. So the solution is move or become the Director myself.Knight7 wrote:To Rocket:
Actually we do have a move up policy. It takes the Girls director, last years coach, next years coach and the ACE director to all agree that said player is absolutely an extraordinare player and needs to be all 4 agreeing she can move up. I challenged it at U10 to move up to U12 as she had 25 goals and 4 assists as a 1st year U10A player and origanally lost.
They relented in the fall as the U12 program was short on numbers (21) for 2 teams. She made the 12A team and was the 2nd leading scorer on the team. The following year all but 3 of the 12A went to the HS and the girls program decided on a B level for the following season. We had a 14B team this year but only 13 B teams in the state to compete with.
To MNHCP:
After all I mentioned in previous posts (PWB/PWA/HS) she ended up making varsity as a 7th grader last season. She had a great year playing with some of the top players in the state on her team. The older players were all good to her and I know of no issues in the lockerrooms. She still hung out with her own peers and kept an A grade average in school. She played in the State Tournament AA and had 2 assists.
In the end it all worked out well for her. She played against teams like Hopkins, Edina, Blake, Proctor, Duluth and many more top teams.
My comment is don't give up and contact your Director know and push him/her to get things straightened out before summer. I tried and everytime things kept being put on the back burner ( that was my perspective). I hope they tried to solve it and it just didn't happen. The problem is there are too many people you need to go through and eventually it gets lost or reshuffled. That's why Minnesota Hockey needs to fix this know so there is only one person to make things happen.
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Folks, in large part you are vastly underestimating the power of your home Minnesota Hockey district-- the district director and/or girls director make the final decisions regarding waivers and they generally frown upon anything perceived as "empire building" even if your case is a good one (such as an A-quality player in an association with only a B team). Minnesota Hockey is really trying to discourage this now. Let's just say "I've put in my time" and it's just not that simple 
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Now, some earlier posts have it nailed-- if your daughter is an extraordinary player capable of playing peewee A or maybe B1 and you have no good option in girls, it might be something to consider if she can handle it physically (many 12U girls are bigger and thicker than the boys) and mentally which will definitely prepare her for high school hockey. In a community with no 12A team but a girls HS team, I'd expect most peewee A/B1 level girls would be able to step into a contributing role at high school as a first year 14U/bantam/8th grader.
I will add this-- if you have a 12A team that "isn't enough of a challenge" for your talented player or doesn't have the committed girls who want to improve, you can attempt to waive out. BUT, unless you're planning on moving to a different high school as well, the same girls you're leaving behind for a year or two will be back on her team soon enough at high school and they will be no better and probably worse than before-- maybe with a grudge against your daughter for leaving them.
Here is your light in the tunnel-- maybe this is the time to take a long-term view of your daughter's development, to be a leader, stick it out, help energize players, parents and your coaches to push development to a higher level or get involved on the ice yourself, get EDUCATED, encourage off-season training with everyone, stick together, DEVELOP those players, bond them. Don't let them depend on one superstar -- it might work in 12U, it will not work in the high school game! Forget winning it's forgotten in relative seconds, focus on developing players by challenging them. Stay POSITIVE. And challenge your daughter to make everyone on the ice better by setting the bar high, groom her leadership qualities and maturity as a captain who sets an example by always working the hardest, always encouraging every player on her team and to become a hero to the younger players. Oh, and don't forget to smile, laugh and have fun. Your players' attitudes and motivation are a reflection of their parents and coaches.
There are dozens of gifted 12U players in this state that stick out like a sore thumb on their teams, trust me it's nothing new. The decision you have is whether you're going to do something to help your daughter's team, your program, future youth teams, and her friends (and eventual high school teammates) now while there is still time for the less-skilled girls to become motivated to improve, or leave where the hockey might be better for a while. Either way, it's okay. Doesn't always guarantee improvement or character development though. As someone at the end of the high school hockey journey with my daughter, I know plenty who have taken that fork in the road and it's nothing to apologize for, but it might not deliver the end results you expect either.
You're discouraged, no question. It won't be overnight, but it can change. Seek out coaches and parents who want to make things better and pool your energy and resources.
Community teams are built from the bottom up. Your daughter may have a unique opportunity to become something more than just another good player on a great co-op team, and that's something no hockey camp or all-star team can teach her. (P.S. it also makes winners in the classroom and on the college coaches assessments).
Not trying to sway anyone either direction...just something to think about. It's a personal decision between you and your player.
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Now, some earlier posts have it nailed-- if your daughter is an extraordinary player capable of playing peewee A or maybe B1 and you have no good option in girls, it might be something to consider if she can handle it physically (many 12U girls are bigger and thicker than the boys) and mentally which will definitely prepare her for high school hockey. In a community with no 12A team but a girls HS team, I'd expect most peewee A/B1 level girls would be able to step into a contributing role at high school as a first year 14U/bantam/8th grader.
I will add this-- if you have a 12A team that "isn't enough of a challenge" for your talented player or doesn't have the committed girls who want to improve, you can attempt to waive out. BUT, unless you're planning on moving to a different high school as well, the same girls you're leaving behind for a year or two will be back on her team soon enough at high school and they will be no better and probably worse than before-- maybe with a grudge against your daughter for leaving them.
Here is your light in the tunnel-- maybe this is the time to take a long-term view of your daughter's development, to be a leader, stick it out, help energize players, parents and your coaches to push development to a higher level or get involved on the ice yourself, get EDUCATED, encourage off-season training with everyone, stick together, DEVELOP those players, bond them. Don't let them depend on one superstar -- it might work in 12U, it will not work in the high school game! Forget winning it's forgotten in relative seconds, focus on developing players by challenging them. Stay POSITIVE. And challenge your daughter to make everyone on the ice better by setting the bar high, groom her leadership qualities and maturity as a captain who sets an example by always working the hardest, always encouraging every player on her team and to become a hero to the younger players. Oh, and don't forget to smile, laugh and have fun. Your players' attitudes and motivation are a reflection of their parents and coaches.
There are dozens of gifted 12U players in this state that stick out like a sore thumb on their teams, trust me it's nothing new. The decision you have is whether you're going to do something to help your daughter's team, your program, future youth teams, and her friends (and eventual high school teammates) now while there is still time for the less-skilled girls to become motivated to improve, or leave where the hockey might be better for a while. Either way, it's okay. Doesn't always guarantee improvement or character development though. As someone at the end of the high school hockey journey with my daughter, I know plenty who have taken that fork in the road and it's nothing to apologize for, but it might not deliver the end results you expect either.
You're discouraged, no question. It won't be overnight, but it can change. Seek out coaches and parents who want to make things better and pool your energy and resources.
Community teams are built from the bottom up. Your daughter may have a unique opportunity to become something more than just another good player on a great co-op team, and that's something no hockey camp or all-star team can teach her. (P.S. it also makes winners in the classroom and on the college coaches assessments).
Not trying to sway anyone either direction...just something to think about. It's a personal decision between you and your player.