Nodak Sioux wrote:I have not seen this bantam kid play but I have heard he is really good! but as of right now I don't think he willl be playing over Sellnow, he is doing very well right now and has just lead his team to the State tournament as a Sophmore. So I think this Bantam goalie is going to have to wait a little bit and get used the shots comming at him a little faster!
ya but if he is not gonna play he wont be staying in the program is what im saying...
To all Panthers, Good luck at State tomorrow. Your players worked hard and won when it counts. Be proud and play tough. Leave it all on the ice and hold nothing back.
Sioux Fan wrote:That is exciting two good goalies at Century next year good goalie at Lourdes Good Goalie at JM...
Who is going to be Mayo's next goaltender...??
Anyone know who is set to fill Yaggy's shoes.?
Century will never have 2 good goalies with the current coach. No excuses - that's just how he is. One holds up the boards the whole practice watching the starter get all the shots and all the games, even the easy ones. After a while the Bantam A experience is gone, skills are gone, and motivation soon follows. That's what Kautz dad should be afraid of and why he would consider a different future. Frutiger developed Kangas (not good in RYHA but developed in HS by playing 100% of the games), Ewing (same story, without the Kangas athletecism and goalie training - Century had a D1 goalie on staff then), and now he has another decent kid (so so skills) that will have State Tourney experience after a year with no competition for the spot. If Kautz kid gets an equal opportunity, Sellnow doesn't stand a chance. If Kautz doesn't get the opportunity, he'll need to move on to something, or somewhere, else. With 3 strong Kautz kids on the team, including the best player from this year Kautz dad has both the motive and the muscle.
Sioux Fan wrote:That is exciting two good goalies at Century next year good goalie at Lourdes Good Goalie at JM...
Who is going to be Mayo's next goaltender...??
Anyone know who is set to fill Yaggy's shoes.?
Century will never have 2 good goalies with the current coach. No excuses - that's just how he is. One holds up the boards the whole practice watching the starter get all the shots and all the games, even the easy ones. After a while the Bantam A experience is gone, skills are gone, and motivation soon follows. That's what Kautz dad should be afraid of and why he would consider a different future. Frutiger developed Kangas (not good in RYHA but developed in HS by playing 100% of the games), Ewing (same story, without the Kangas athletecism and goalie training - Century had a D1 goalie on staff then), and now he has another decent kid (so so skills) that will have State Tourney experience after a year with no competition for the spot. If Kautz kid gets an equal opportunity, Sellnow doesn't stand a chance. If Kautz doesn't get the opportunity, he'll need to move on to something, or somewhere, else. With 3 strong Kautz kids on the team, including the best player from this year Kautz dad has both the motive and the muscle.
If that's his call - I think you blame the coach.
People say that first impressions are huge. AnotherHockeyParent- That could of been one of the dumbest posts I have ever read.
Sioux Fan wrote:That is exciting two good goalies at Century next year good goalie at Lourdes Good Goalie at JM...
Who is going to be Mayo's next goaltender...??
Anyone know who is set to fill Yaggy's shoes.?
Century will never have 2 good goalies with the current coach. No excuses - that's just how he is. One holds up the boards the whole practice watching the starter get all the shots and all the games, even the easy ones. After a while the Bantam A experience is gone, skills are gone, and motivation soon follows. That's what Kautz dad should be afraid of and why he would consider a different future. Frutiger developed Kangas (not good in RYHA but developed in HS by playing 100% of the games), Ewing (same story, without the Kangas athletecism and goalie training - Century had a D1 goalie on staff then), and now he has another decent kid (so so skills) that will have State Tourney experience after a year with no competition for the spot. If Kautz kid gets an equal opportunity, Sellnow doesn't stand a chance. If Kautz doesn't get the opportunity, he'll need to move on to something, or somewhere, else. With 3 strong Kautz kids on the team, including the best player from this year Kautz dad has both the motive and the muscle.
If that's his call - I think you blame the coach.
People say that first impressions are huge. AnotherHockeyParent- That could of been one of the dumbest posts I have ever read.
If what AnotherHockeypartent says is true, then I agree with him. I have seen the Kautz kid play and is one of the best, if not the best, bantam goalies in the state. Nothing against the current goalie at Century,he might be just as good or better, but if Kautz is not going to get game time he should find another place to play. Too much talent not to develop. Just my 2 cents.
What anotherhockeyparent says is not true by any means. Fruitiger rotated goalies when Westbrock was there. Ewing rotated with Borgmann until state cause he played better at the end. If this Kautz kid is good he will get his opportunity to play. Maybe not right away cause Sellnow has played well. Eventually the kid will play and be able to show what he has.
howdypartiner wrote:What anotherhockeyparent says is not true by any means. Fruitiger rotated goalies when Westbrock was there. Ewing rotated with Borgmann until state cause he played better at the end. If this Kautz kid is good he will get his opportunity to play. Maybe not right away cause Sellnow has played well. Eventually the kid will play and be able to show what he has.
AnotherHockeyParent wrote:
Century will never have 2 good goalies with the current coach. No excuses - that's just how he is. One holds up the boards the whole practice watching the starter get all the shots and all the games, even the easy ones. After a while the Bantam A experience is gone, skills are gone, and motivation soon follows. That's what Kautz dad should be afraid of and why he would consider a different future. Frutiger developed Kangas (not good in RYHA but developed in HS by playing 100% of the games), Ewing (same story, without the Kangas athletecism and goalie training - Century had a D1 goalie on staff then), and now he has another decent kid (so so skills) that will have State Tourney experience after a year with no competition for the spot. If Kautz kid gets an equal opportunity, Sellnow doesn't stand a chance. If Kautz doesn't get the opportunity, he'll need to move on to something, or somewhere, else. With 3 strong Kautz kids on the team, including the best player from this year Kautz dad has both the motive and the muscle.
If that's his call - I think you blame the coach.
People say that first impressions are huge. AnotherHockeyParent- That could of been one of the dumbest posts I have ever read.
If what AnotherHockeypartent says is true, then I agree with him. I have seen the Kautz kid play and is one of the best, if not the best, bantam goalies in the state. Nothing against the current goalie at Century,he might be just as good or better, but if Kautz is not going to get game time he should find another place to play. Too much talent not to develop. Just my 2 cents.
mr brooks is correct im sure thats exactly how practice runs.. you most go watch every one of them eh? hah after state tourney exp how could sellnow not be the fav to start im all for giving the young gun equal opp and if he earns it well congrats but are you serious about the motive and the muscle you shouldnt just threaten your son into a starting role thats bs and the sign of insecurity you dont deserve to play unless you earn it.. the same thing happend with the younger fauple after joe scored four up at state the next year his son came in as a frosh after his dad had dinner with the coach"used his muscle" and what do you know he is starting when he should still be in bantams.. it showed serious holes in his game and he still skates around with his head down trying to be hot stuff..alls that does is give a kid an hot head if he gets handed his spot.. and takes away from the kids who were stuck on jv as juniors(there top Dmen this year GRINDE AND KNOEPKE) so what does that prove if you dont deserve to be there earn it thats all im saying dont baby out and go somewhere else or have your dad get on his knees for the coach hah
StillAnEagle wrote: I think Rochester can produce good teams, but they'll never be ready for championship play/pace until they face some of these programs.
That is because roch spreads through 4 schools.. if there was one or two schools, they would be just as good as the cities teams
Duluth has 4 schools, and has roughly the same population as Rochester, yet seems to be able to field a quality team (if not 2 quality teams) every year
but what, 2 maybe three of those schools provide hockey?.. and you know Marshall and East just recruit recruit and recruit
Connor Faupel rarely saw the ice last season and never started; Grinde and Knoepke played JV only for a period and largely because the JV was shorthanded last season and needed kids. Getting those two kids more ice time proved to be great as they both improved greatly over last year.
Because a kid is supposed to be great coming out of bantams doesn't mean he will, you never know how kids will develop when they move to the next level. There are some kids that never get better in high school for many reasons, some were just early bloomers and once the pack catches up they're no longer the "star" they once were. Others who knows what happens there are so many other things that happen in high school; girls, cars, etc. that bantams never had to worry about. The incoming kid will have to compete for a job, Hansen will be back from his injury as well, so why should be appointed to the starting job let alone a place on varsity? He hasn't done anything at the high school level as of yet.
I don't think Connor playing at Century did him or anyone any diservice, Century cut no one last year so he didn't take a spot away from anyone, aside from possibly Jeff Nagel who spent the year on JV playing while Connor sat on the varsity bench. Also why pay over $1000 to play bantams when you can pay $175 to play high school and there is only one team to travel with instead of two? Seems like a no brainer to me.
Is that a joke? Connor Faupel got regular playing time last season if not more. You obviously only watch JV.. And as for sellnow he clearly beat out Hanson. Hanson played the beginging of the season and showed he was not ready for the starting postion. Sellnow has worked for that postion and it clearly shows, he has been getting better and better every game.
Who is going to be Mayo's next goaltender...??
Anyone know who is set to fill Yaggy's shoes.?[/quote]
Theyll Have Stefan Edle who will be a senior next year.....Are Alex VanGalder who will be an 11th grader.....They both split time starting on jv....... But VanGalder got to play in the varsity game vs Austin......From what i hear VanGalder is better than Edle but yet......Mayo prolly isnt going to be that good next year anyway........
But whats gonna be the situation with century and there Bantam Goalie?
SEMNHOCKEYFAN wrote:Who is going to be Mayo's next goaltender...??
Anyone know who is set to fill Yaggy's shoes.?
Theyll Have Stefan Edle who will be a senior next year.....Are Alex VanGalder who will be an 11th grader.....They both split time starting on jv....... But VanGalder got to play in the varsity game vs Austin......From what i hear VanGalder is better than Edle but yet......Mayo prolly isnt going to be that good next year anyway........
But whats gonna be the situation with century and there Bantam Goalie?[/quote]
It will be interesting, their bantam goalie is very skilled.
SEMNHOCKEYFAN wrote:Who is going to be Mayo's next goaltender...??
Anyone know who is set to fill Yaggy's shoes.?
Theyll Have Stefan Edle who will be a senior next year.....Are Alex VanGalder who will be an 11th grader.....They both split time starting on jv....... But VanGalder got to play in the varsity game vs Austin......From what i hear VanGalder is better than Edle but yet......Mayo prolly isnt going to be that good next year anyway........
But whats gonna be the situation with century and there Bantam Goalie?[/quote]
Elde made the playoff roster though didn't he? And I think Vangalder just played the third period of the Austin game cause they switch off backing up varsity and it was vangalders turn to back up that game... I don't think the third period of the austin game is a good indicator of who's better. They wi probably end up splitting most of the starts again, just like on jv this year.
pepper brooks wrote:Is that a joke? Connor Faupel got regular playing time last season if not more. You obviously only watch JV.. And as for sellnow he clearly beat out Hanson. Hanson played the beginging of the season and showed he was not ready for the starting postion. Sellnow has worked for that postion and it clearly shows, he has been getting better and better every game.
No he did not, the top 5 defensemen were Olofsen, Ordahl, Knoepke, Grinde, and Samuelson. Early on he got some playing time but starting with the first game against Edina he showed he wasn't at that level yet. I think he also was hurt at some point, he was pretty much a non factor in the rest of the season, he got some garbage time playing time but that was it. The practice he received helped but as far as playing time he was the 6th defenseman.
You're right Sellnow beat out Hanson, but Hanson hurt his catching hand playing football, an injury he never fully recovered from and is still out from today. Is Sellnow better? I don't know, clearly the Century defensive scheme improved with Raeshler getting experiance, Connor moving to forward, and Samuelson returning but I can't say Sellnow is better, he looks like he makes the routine saves easily but also looks lost an awful lot as well. He's only a sophomore and time will tell just how good he is. I think it would be fool's folly to name him the heir apparant going into next season.
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First off, personally I think that Sellnow has more of an upside than Hanson. He is more in control and the more prototypical goalie, whereas Hanson has no style and plays like a Hasek type. Samulson I believe was caught doing something which he shouldnt have been. I believe it was his second offense of the year too, which is too bad. Couldn't have it wait till after the biggest game of his life was played, its a shame.
howdypartiner wrote:First off, personally I think that Sellnow has more of an upside than Hanson. He is more in control and the more prototypical goalie, whereas Hanson has no style and plays like a Hasek type. Samulson I believe was caught doing something which he shouldnt have been. I believe it was his second offense of the year too, which is too bad. Couldn't have it wait till after the biggest game of his life was played, its a shame.
pepper brooks wrote:Is that a joke? Connor Faupel got regular playing time last season if not more. You obviously only watch JV.. And as for sellnow he clearly beat out Hanson. Hanson played the beginging of the season and showed he was not ready for the starting postion. Sellnow has worked for that postion and it clearly shows, he has been getting better and better every game.
No he did not, the top 5 defensemen were Olofsen, Ordahl, Knoepke, Grinde, and Samuelson. Early on he got some playing time but starting with the first game against Edina he showed he wasn't at that level yet. I think he also was hurt at some point, he was pretty much a non factor in the rest of the season, he got some garbage time playing time but that was it. The practice he received helped but as far as playing time he was the 6th defenseman.
You're right Sellnow beat out Hanson, but Hanson hurt his catching hand playing football, an injury he never fully recovered from and is still out from today. Is Sellnow better? I don't know, clearly the Century defensive scheme improved with Raeshler getting experiance, Connor moving to forward, and Samuelson returning but I can't say Sellnow is better, he looks like he makes the routine saves easily but also looks lost an awful lot as well. He's only a sophomore and time will tell just how good he is. I think it would be fool's folly to name him the heir apparant going into next season.
connor actually did get a regular shift all season long, he was even on the power play for at least part of the season
First off, a very good season for Century. They lost a bunch from last season, the "best" seniors went to Mayo and Lourdes and Century should have been a middle of the pack Big Nine team. They won the Big Nine and won the section which were both overacheivements. The seniors improved a great deal over the last off season; Bill Grinde and Ryan Knoepke both became very servicable defensemen and the backbone of the team. Cory Birkestrand got a lot better, Joe Faupel found his game after a mid season slump and was a key in Century getting through the section to name a few. By the end of the season all the seniors were playing well and Nagel getting hurt ended up being a pretty big loss.
On the bad side, far too many team, school, and MSHSL rules violations. For a couple of hyped bantams the jump from bantams to high school was just way to much for them. Being a great skater doesn't always translate into being a good hockey player, the same mistakes were made from the beginning of the season through today's game with Hill-Murray. Putting up 4 points against Austin is worthless in the grand scheme of things when you're on the ice for nearly every goal scored in the post season. Hopefully they'll use the off season to transform all their individual skills into team skills. The over emphisis by RYHA on individual skills reared it's ugly head once again, it's tough on a coaching staff to have to teach kids things and habits that have been ignored for years.
Next season there's a decent nucleus to build around with Kautz, Martini, Anderson, and Faupel. From the blueline back there needs to be improvement but that happened last season and there's reason to expect the same this upcoming season.
From the start of the season the Panthers overacheived, injuries and rules violations probably kept this team from accomplishing more.
Good analysis goldy, I agree with the points that are made. It was good to see another Rochester team at state so kudo's to them. The off ice problems are what concern me. It happens all over the state I know, but when it happens more than once a season thats when you know the kids just dont get it. I know that if I were on a team that had just advanced to the state tournament and one of my teamates got caught doing something stupid, I would have been furious.
Goldy if I understand you right you're saying that RYHA is doing the kids wrong by teaching them the fundamentals of the game and they should be teaching more team stuff. That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard you cannot play any part of a team game if you can't skate, handle the puck or shoot, and that is what Doug Z. is trying to teach the kids at the youth level.
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