Section 7A Championship: [2] Hibbing vs [1] Virginia

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Who will win?

Hibbing
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34%
Virginia
42
66%
 
Total votes: 64

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Post by MSHLfan »

Hibbing 5-2, probably be a brawl at the end, its iron range hockey
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gophers101 wrote:Now we have the un-hibernating Eveleth fans defending falls. Hibbing played 3 lines the entire game. The second and third line did fine holding there own and really make few mistakes. Its play like that which will bring them to the big show. They played well and Jamnick led the charge.
You probably should double-check your facts, gophs. ;)

Hibbing played a third line against I Falls, but it wasn't anywhere near regularly, and it was mostly in the second period after they were up 3-0. They weren't seen much in the later stages of the game. It wasn't much different than what they did against Hermantown and Virginia at the end of the regular season, with the exception that they got a good sized lead that allowed them to see a little more ice time when the game wasn't on the line.

There is even some proof of that in the scoring summary.

Jamnick scored goals at 11:56, 13:40, and assisted at 14:53 - all at even strength in the first period. Either the third line played 10 -20 second shifts, or there was only one other line out there between goals. For you non-math experts, there was 1:46 between goal #1 and #2; and 1:13 between goal #2 and goal #3. That is every other shift for most teams.

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To bring this back on topic, Hibbing doesn't compare with Virginia in the depth department. Virginia got goals from its first line (with an assist from a fourth-line winger during a line change), its top powerplay unit, its second line, and its fourth line against Duluth Marshall. That kind of distribution is not uncommon if you look back through the scoring summaries against the more competetive teams. All four lines consistantly play regular shifts. Meanwhile, Hibbing continues to get almost all their scoring from the one line, with the occasional bump from line #2 and the D.

Here is a breakdown by lines (based on the line chart from the last games for each team):

Hibbing:
1-Jamnick(30), Hanegmon(13), Johnson(9) - 52 goals
2-Peratelo(9), Olds(5), Bugliosi(4) - 18 goals
3-Stampohar(5), Suikhonen(2), Doherty(1) - 8 goals
4-Fenstermacher(0), Anderson(0), Pechovnik(0)? - 0 Goals*
D-Decenzo(7), LaLiberte(4), Wagner(4), Vechell(3), McConkey(0) - 18 goals
TOTAL: 96 goals

*Not sure if these are still even the guys since they don't play.


Virginia:
1-Westin(30), Hendrickson(22), A Judnick(13) - 65 goals
2-Norlander(9), Carlson(7), Buccanero(5) - 21 goals
3-G Nichols(4), Chesser(8), Andrews(3) - 15 goals
4-T Nichols(6), Eddy(9), Howard(3) - 18 goals
D-Krebsbach(16), W Judnick(3), Belobaba(3), Grivette(3), Dahl(1) - 26 goals

Virginia also has two other players with three goals each that are not on the current roster. (Lundberg and Nelson)
TOTAL: 151 goals

As you can see, no Virginia forward has less than three goals and only one defenseman has less than three (Dahl). There is very little scoring difference between lines 2-4 and none are deemed defensive liabilities. All 17 skaters on the rosters are very good skaters and play and contribute on a regular basis.

Hibbing plays two lines regularly, with the third playing on occasion or with some guys mixing into the top two to rest a few guys. They primarily rely on just 10-12 skaters. You won't see three lines rotating regularly against Virginia unless the game goes lopsided. Especially if its close in the third period.

I said this after the first game in Hibbing. If the game is played mostly at full strength, Virginia has a definite advantage. The win Hibbing had was a direct result of special teams playing 80% of the game for both teams. Hibbing's special teams guys are as good as anybody's.

Here is another way to look at it, just to drive home my point here. The second game in Virginia was 1-0 Hibbing at the halfway point of the game. Virginia scored 7 goals in the second half of the game as the Hibbing guys began to lose a step. In the Marshall game on Saturday, Virginia wins the third period 3-1, while Marshall played primarily two lines in that period. Virginia did the same thing to International Falls late in the season. Its not a coincidence. Playing four lines has proven benefits when it comes down to the end of the game.
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Post by Anchorland »

Should be a good game and no matter who wins, at least it is an Iron Range team that will be down south. One more thing to add. I am a big Hibbing fan. I played for Hibbing and coached many youth teams. I was embarrassed by the Hibbing student section on Saturday night. I am all for the chanting and what not, but what was coming out of their mouths during their chants was embarrassing! I hope Wednesday night they can show some class and realize that there are young kids near them. Just thought I would add that in case some HHS students decide to read this post. Grow up and have some pride in your school and have some sportsmanship! Good day to all.
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Will be a good game

Post by Nonamer »

Hibbing by maybe an EN. And make sure everyone watches Westin - he may earn an Oscar if he gets enough votes...
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Post by northernhockey=thebest »

Hibbing 5-3... Jamnick is too hungry and too good to lose this game.. should be a good game along w a packed and crazy crowd... LETS GO HIBBING
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Post by ref17 »

I can promise you this. Hibbing will not ROLL 3 lines against Virginia. going to be a great game!

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Post by gophers101 »

Anchorland wrote:Should be a good game and no matter who wins, at least it is an Iron Range team that will be down south. One more thing to add. I am a big Hibbing fan. I played for Hibbing and coached many youth teams. I was embarrassed by the Hibbing student section on Saturday night. I am all for the chanting and what not, but what was coming out of their mouths during their chants was embarrassing! I hope Wednesday night they can show some class and realize that there are young kids near them. Just thought I would add that in case some HHS students decide to read this post. Grow up and have some pride in your school and have some sportsmanship! Good day to all.
Ok wednesday we'll do flower power and world peace chants. Maybe we'll throw in Go Green and Animal Rights just for the heck of it. I'm willing to bet the chants you heard in Rapids weren't even quite bad. I know cause I was there and heard them. DECC is normally worse. So don't expect a change.
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Post by breakout3 »

lets go devils !
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Post by Iron Range Hockey »

[quote="gophers101"][quote="Anchorland"]Should be a good game and no matter who wins, at least it is an Iron Range team that will be down south. One more thing to add. I am a big Hibbing fan. I played for Hibbing and coached many youth teams. I was embarrassed by the Hibbing student section on Saturday night. I am all for the chanting and what not, but what was coming out of their mouths during their chants was embarrassing! I hope Wednesday night they can show some class and realize that there are young kids near them. Just thought I would add that in case some HHS students decide to read this post. Grow up and have some pride in your school and have some sportsmanship! Good day to all.[/quote]

Ok wednesday we'll do flower power and world peace chants. Maybe we'll throw in Go Green and Animal Rights just for the heck of it. I'm willing to bet the chants you heard in Rapids weren't even quite bad. I know cause I was there and heard them. DECC is normally worse. So don't expect a change.[/quote]


haha good one gophers101
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Post by Anchorland »

Obviously you didn't hear the "Bunch of Pussies" chant every time Hibbing hit someone. And more than likely you didn't see the great sportsmanship they showed last year at the DECC when they threw stuff all over the ice when they lost. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, perhaps you were one of them. Just want some class and from the above mentioned chant, it shows none.
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Post by pacman »

Anchorland wrote:Obviously you didn't hear the "Bunch of Pussies" chant every time Hibbing hit someone. And more than likely you didn't see the great sportsmanship they showed last year at the DECC when they threw stuff all over the ice when they lost. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, perhaps you were one of them. Just want some class and from the above mentioned chant, it shows none.
Your fighting a cause that won't win brother. The HHS Students hell have fought the police for the right to stand this year...Possibly one of the Best Student Sections i've seen in years.
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Post by gophers101 »

pacman wrote:
Anchorland wrote:Obviously you didn't hear the "Bunch of Pussies" chant every time Hibbing hit someone. And more than likely you didn't see the great sportsmanship they showed last year at the DECC when they threw stuff all over the ice when they lost. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, perhaps you were one of them. Just want some class and from the above mentioned chant, it shows none.
Your fighting a cause that won't win brother. The HHS Students hell have fought the police for the right to stand this year...Possibly one of the Best Student Sections i've seen in years.
Finally the AD lifted his strict rules and Hibbing's students were able to come alive. Years and Years the students have fought for this and now finally they have. There gonna be wild. There high school kids.
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RE:

Post by northernboy7645 »

This pacman is just a Hibbing student who thinks his student section is so great, they have no class and are an embarrassment to the school.
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Post by Jackets17 »

gophers101 wrote:
pacman wrote:
Anchorland wrote:Obviously you didn't hear the "Bunch of Pussies" chant every time Hibbing hit someone. And more than likely you didn't see the great sportsmanship they showed last year at the DECC when they threw stuff all over the ice when they lost. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, perhaps you were one of them. Just want some class and from the above mentioned chant, it shows none.
Your fighting a cause that won't win brother. The HHS Students hell have fought the police for the right to stand this year...Possibly one of the Best Student Sections i've seen in years.
Finally the AD lifted his strict rules and Hibbing's students were able to come alive. Years and Years the students have fought for this and now finally they have. There gonna be wild. There high school kids.
I agree with goph and pac, the Hibbing student section is just a bunch of high school kids that are out to have a good time. It's not golf. We're not going to clap politely after a hard check or a goal for the other team..boo'ing and chanting is simply part of the game and adds to it I think.
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Re: RE:

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northernboy7645 wrote:This pacman is just a Hibbing student who thinks his student section is so great, they have no class and are an embarrassment to the school.
You think Hibbing is Bad...Boy you haven't seen Student Sections from the metro schools.
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Post by Siouxfan08 »

Does anybody know if this game will be broadcast over the internet? I am away at college and would love to watch this game.
GO JACKETS!
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Post by Anchorland »

Boy, that got some people going. Hope the fans prove me wrong.
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Post by pacman »

Siouxfan08 wrote:Does anybody know if this game will be broadcast over the internet? I am away at college and would love to watch this game.
GO JACKETS!
Your Best Bet would be WEBC 560 out of Duluth..Not Sure though...check prephockeynorth the day of the game.
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Post by PuckRanger »

pacman wrote:
Siouxfan08 wrote:Does anybody know if this game will be broadcast over the internet? I am away at college and would love to watch this game.
GO JACKETS!
Your Best Bet would be WEBC 560 out of Duluth..Not Sure though...check prephockeynorth the day of the game.
As of right now, there is no internet feed coming out of the DECC for this game.

WEBC is carrying the 5A final over in Cloquet with Hermantown and Cathedral, so it won't be coming from there.

There is a very outside chance that KRBT's broadcast (out of Eveleth) might be streamed through prephockeynorth.com. Right now, I'm working on it, but a lot still needs to happen in a relatively short period of time, so don't bet the farm on it. It will be posted immediately on the website when/if it gets worked out.

Other options to listen (or watch) will be on WDIO channel 10, Hibbing radio WMFG 106.3FM or Eveleth's KRBT 1340 AM.
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Post by mainefan »

PuckRanger thanks for your efforts to try and get this game streaamed. I hope you can!!!!!
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northernboy7645 wrote:This pacman is just a Hibbing student who thinks his student section is so great, they have no class and are an embarrassment to the school.
We aren't saying its the best one in the whole country. From a hibbing standard this is probably there best student section. The strict rules have been lifted and they are pretty much free to do what they want now.
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Post by northernhockey=thebest »

who really cares if the student section is not showing class or anything... C mon guys , they r from Hibbbing not a rich area like Duluth East... Let them chant what they want... Its damn hockey not volleyball or anything.. geez u guys sound like a bunch of teachers
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Post by karl(east) »

How on earth does the wealth of an area affect what the fans are allowed to chant?
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Post by ref17 »

I love this! a thread about a game? not even close! not 2 teams, not just a game. 2 hockey cities that love to hate each other. routing against one another no matter who they are playing. from mites to varsity this "THING" runs strong. this thing we talk about. . . RIVALRY! at its finest. im just glad to be a part of it. jacket fans, enjoy watching the spring classic on your flat screen!
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Post by BDfan »

Virginia will win 5-3 in a 2005 repeat

Virginia cheering section is better than Hibbing's anyways!
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