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The links are here.muckandgrind wrote:
Back to the topic....when are the brackets for this tournament due to be released? Or have they already?
First, I do more to support our local association that you would ever know. From coaching to being a Board member to fundraising, etc. I've been part of our local association for close to 15 years and counting. My kids (three boys) have always played association hockey in the winter and my two youngest play AAA in the summer.observer wrote:I’ve finally had enough of this.
What J&J, M&G, and others don’t seem to understand is it is about the community you live in, school or hockey. Our hockey model in Minnesota is community based youth associations that are volunteer supported. Period. That’s what we have in this state. You always say others worry about your kid and where he plays but you’re wrong. We don’t give a rip about your kid it’s you we want to be part of our youth association, volunteering and working hard to make it better for everyone. Your passion, your determination, that’s what drives volunteer youth sports organizations to improve themselves. When you just take off, to improve your own situation, without consideration to the community you live in, that’s lazy and selfish. Life is about serving others. What can you do to help others? Not about, I think I’ll bail and let everyone else worry about our community based hockey model.
We heard that 18 kids from Edina are skating at MM. It’s not the 18 kids Edina misses but it’s the 36 moms and dads, potential volunteers, coaches, administrators, leaders to make the association stronger, that are missed. That’s why you volunteer to be on the PTA and help to improve your child’s school. That’s why you volunteer at church or scouts, to make the situation better for your fellow community members.
Now, this is over your head but it’s a big societal problem as well. Everyone just bailing when things aren’t right, or going their way. No, roll up your sleeves and get to work. Work to help you community be a better place. Your school, your scout group and your hockey association. Notice I said your hockey association.
Now, I’ll agree that some situations aren’t great and it’s tough to look around and see others in a better situation than yourself but I’m tired of the constant whining about choice and doing whatever you please. Good for you. But, as I said, it shows a total lack of understanding about what’s really important which is being supportive, helpful, caring, sharing and thinking about what you can do to serve others.
As the old business axiom goes, don’t be part of the problem, be part of the solution. If you spent all the time you do fussing on helping recruit new 4 and 5 year olds to your association maybe the future would be brighter. Call your association President and ask what you can do to help. Be part of the solution. Otherwise, you’re a fussy, lazy, a..
AMEN!!!!!!muckandgrind wrote:First, I do more to support our local association that you would ever know. From coaching to being a Board member to fundraising, etc. I've been part of our local association for close to 15 years and counting. My kids (three boys) have always played association hockey in the winter and my two youngest play AAA in the summer.observer wrote:I’ve finally had enough of this.
What J&J, M&G, and others don’t seem to understand is it is about the community you live in, school or hockey. Our hockey model in Minnesota is community based youth associations that are volunteer supported. Period. That’s what we have in this state. You always say others worry about your kid and where he plays but you’re wrong. We don’t give a rip about your kid it’s you we want to be part of our youth association, volunteering and working hard to make it better for everyone. Your passion, your determination, that’s what drives volunteer youth sports organizations to improve themselves. When you just take off, to improve your own situation, without consideration to the community you live in, that’s lazy and selfish. Life is about serving others. What can you do to help others? Not about, I think I’ll bail and let everyone else worry about our community based hockey model.
We heard that 18 kids from Edina are skating at MM. It’s not the 18 kids Edina misses but it’s the 36 moms and dads, potential volunteers, coaches, administrators, leaders to make the association stronger, that are missed. That’s why you volunteer to be on the PTA and help to improve your child’s school. That’s why you volunteer at church or scouts, to make the situation better for your fellow community members.
Now, this is over your head but it’s a big societal problem as well. Everyone just bailing when things aren’t right, or going their way. No, roll up your sleeves and get to work. Work to help you community be a better place. Your school, your scout group and your hockey association. Notice I said your hockey association.
Now, I’ll agree that some situations aren’t great and it’s tough to look around and see others in a better situation than yourself but I’m tired of the constant whining about choice and doing whatever you please. Good for you. But, as I said, it shows a total lack of understanding about what’s really important which is being supportive, helpful, caring, sharing and thinking about what you can do to serve others.
As the old business axiom goes, don’t be part of the problem, be part of the solution. If you spent all the time you do fussing on helping recruit new 4 and 5 year olds to your association maybe the future would be brighter. Call your association President and ask what you can do to help. Be part of the solution. Otherwise, you’re a fussy, lazy, a..
That being said, I will never criticize those who choose to do something else because there are situations they may be involved in that I'm not aware of. I've already listed some examples of why a family wants to play somewhere else: school, friends, etc. And if a family decides to leave because they don't like what they see going on in our association, than I think the burden is on US, as an association, to look at WHY a family wants to spend their money somewhere else and see if we can make the appropriate changes so families WANT to play in our association, instead of being FORCED to do so.
Let's be honest, some parents don't have the time to devote as much time in volunteering as others and some others also don't buy into the "community" approach and simply want to provide the best hockey experience for their kids as possible, and have the means to do so. I say, good luck, and I hope their kids have fun. Isn't that what everyone always says: "it's about the kids"?
I think the availability of other hockey options creates a competitive model and makes for an opportunity for associations to make improvements in how they operate. Instead of associations complaining about losing players, look within for the reason WHY they want to leave in the first place.
This post sure makes it hard to hope Farmington wins - nothing like a little humility.SmallTownBigStick wrote:Anyway, BACK TO THE THREAD...
FARMINGTON! WHO CAN BEAT THE FARMBOYS? Tonka couldnt! Edina couldnt even get there--Flu was the reason, but everyone knows they didnt want to take a beatin before fargo. Blaine here..Blaine Gone. Lakeville is 0 for. Eastview....Huh! Sibly..err no. Woodbury 0 for. Eagan--buh bye. Rosemount... the best competition thus far, but to tie the farmkids was luck. They were out-shot badly.
Lots of you say it depends on what team shows up...and I agree. But consistency is the key and these kids seem to be playing with a whole lot of that. This Fargo Flyer nonsense---if they get into the semis, it sounds to me like they are going to be way out of their league. Do you really want to have another BLOOMINGTON final (11-0????) Whatever. It is what it is.
HOMETOWN BOYZ. STAND UP AND BE COUNTED. Farmington is the best squirt A team I've seen in a long time. I don't think these AAA squads have anything on them and I dont see another assoc team bellying up any time soon. Watchout FERGUS! Good luck to all in FARGO. Can't wait to hear how it turns out.
Do you like Farmington a little?SmallTownBigStick wrote:Anyway, BACK TO THE THREAD...
FARMINGTON! WHO CAN BEAT THE FARMBOYS? Tonka couldnt! Edina couldnt even get there--Flu was the reason, but everyone knows they didnt want to take a beatin before fargo. Blaine here..Blaine Gone. Lakeville is 0 for. Eastview....Huh! Sibly..err no. Woodbury 0 for. Eagan--buh bye. Rosemount... the best competition thus far, but to tie the farmkids was luck. They were out-shot badly.
Lots of you say it depends on what team shows up...and I agree. But consistency is the key and these kids seem to be playing with a whole lot of that. This Fargo Flyer nonsense---if they get into the semis, it sounds to me like they are going to be way out of their league. Do you really want to have another BLOOMINGTON final (11-0????) Whatever. It is what it is.
HOMETOWN BOYZ. STAND UP AND BE COUNTED. Farmington is the best squirt A team I've seen in a long time. I don't think these AAA squads have anything on them and I dont see another assoc team bellying up any time soon. Watchout FERGUS! Good luck to all in FARGO. Can't wait to hear how it turns out.
. Who's in the way for farmington? Mntka, Bville, OSMG, Fargo or Prior Lake? I don't see them having a problem with any of those teams. 
Wow are you a first year squirt? Edina's one loss team from last year would have blown you out of the water... I agree that you have a good team but don't annoint them yet...SmallTownBigStick wrote:Anyway, BACK TO THE THREAD...
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Farmington is the best squirt A team I've seen in a long time. I don't think these AAA squads have anything on them and I dont see another assoc team bellying up any time soon. Watchout FERGUS! Good luck to all in FARGO. Can't wait to hear how it turns out.
20 games to me isn't a long time..I have watched a lot of squirt hockey this year and haven't seen the dominant team like we did last year. There are some dominant players out there that can change a game but not the total deep package that Edina had last year.. ( I hate saying that cause I am a D6 dad that along with 90% of the people love to hate edina)SmallTownBigStick wrote:Welcome to today. And Im not annointing anyone. Like I said everyone has an opinion. Too bad Edina couldnt make the controlled scrimmage. Then I guess we would have a better idea.
No doubt about it - STBigStick is right. District 8 is a powerhouse and to go undefeated is amazing! - although are they really, for a team this confident I dont see any scores posted on their site - huh??? Let's take a look at this "Powerhouse" DistrictSmallTownBigStick wrote:Welcome to today. And Im not annointing anyone. Like I said everyone has an opinion. Too bad Edina couldnt make the controlled scrimmage. Then I guess we would have a better idea.
Ouch! Forgive me while I type with my foot in mouth. It turns out STMA did turn you down for a practice in Farmington - not a game - since they are already scheduled to the max 35 games.SmallTownBigStick wrote:Check your facts IJKH. Do I need to fish out the email that had STMA turning Farmington down? Geeez. A little testy are we. Go back and read the threads. BLAINE, tonka, CHASKA...Now this team is a nobody because of the district it's in? hahahaa I guess Rosemount is nobody then also? NO DISRESPECT DISTRICT 8. Because ALL the other districts are SOLID from top to bottom. Ok then. Better warn them! Hey Farmington, better not show up in Fargo cuz you aint got a prayer!
Different tone from your earlier post when you were talking SMACK.