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TCQQL
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2AA scoring stats for the top seeds

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Here are some interesting stats on the top 6 forwards and top 2 defense from each of the top 4 seeds in 2AA. I think it shows the depth of each team.
I am sure that all the lines do not all match up, but they are close and these are the top scorers according to Hockey Hub.

Jefferson:
1st line (points): Herbert (46), Dietzler (35), Knight (19); Total 100 points
2nd line (points): Gallus (35), Siiro (34), Knutson (22); Total 91 points
Top 2 Defense (points): Faust (34), Pauluk (31); Total 65 points
Grand Total: 256 points

Edina:
1st line (points): Lee (66), Everson (64), Gaarder (56); Total 186 points
2nd line (points): Sit (23), Taft (21), Eppel (15); Total 59 points
Top 2 Defense (points): Jarrett (11), Everson (10); Total 21 points
Grand Total: 286 points

Holy Angels:
1st line (points): Mattson (71), Heag (56), Smith (29); Total 156 points
2nd line (points): C. Reilly (56), R. Reilly (36), Fisher (23); Total 115 points
Top 2 Defense (points): M. Reilly (26), Delude (12); Total 38 points
Grand Total: 309 points

Burnsville:
1st line (points): May (67), Pearson ( 58 ), King ( 36 ); Total 161 points
2nd line (points): Smyth (35), Kes (23), Dockry ( 18 ); Total 76 points
Top 2 Defense (points): Madigan (12), Hendrickson (11); Total 23 points
Grand Total: 260 points
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Post by youngblood08 »

The only impressive stat is the Edina scoring totals due to the schedule they played. AHA played Prior Lake 2x's, Northfield 2x's and a couple of other dogs they beat by 10 goals. Unless teams played the same exact teams these mean nothing, when you compare team to team.

FIND A COMMON OPPONENT AND LETS SEE WHO DID WHAT!!!!
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

Holy Angels also played Shattuck and Culver Academy to offset that. What you're saying would be like trying to take Hanowski's title away because Little Falls plays an incredibly soft schedule.

It is a great feat and regardless all are very deep teams. Would be nice to see more than one of these teams at state.
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Post by Papa Bergundy »

HShockeywatcher wrote:Holy Angels also played Shattuck and Culver Academy to offset that. What you're saying would be like trying to take Hanowski's title away because Little Falls plays an incredibly soft schedule.

It is a great feat and regardless all are very deep teams. Would be nice to see more than one of these teams at state.
That's 3 or 4 games out of the whole season. Edina plays just as good of teams just about every game of the season. And the Hanowski reference was a little farfetched. Maybe he was just saying AHA's stats were a little skewed because of the cupcake games they played in conference (I know it's not their fault, but a fact nonetheless.)

On a brighter note, the stats definately show the offensive potency of this section. Should be a fun tournament.
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Post by InYourFace09 »

youngblood08 wrote:The only impressive stat is the Edina scoring totals due to the schedule they played. AHA played Prior Lake 2x's, Northfield 2x's and a couple of other dogs they beat by 10 goals. Unless teams played the same exact teams these mean nothing, when you compare team to team.

FIND A COMMON OPPONENT AND LETS SEE WHO DID WHAT!!!!

I dont think he was showing these stats to say who is better than who by their stats. It is to show how much depth the team has. It looks like Jefferson is balanced between their top two lines while Edina relies on their first line. Holy Angles is pretty well balanced scoring wise as well.
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Post by TCQQL »

InYourFace09 wrote:
youngblood08 wrote:The only impressive stat is the Edina scoring totals due to the schedule they played. AHA played Prior Lake 2x's, Northfield 2x's and a couple of other dogs they beat by 10 goals. Unless teams played the same exact teams these mean nothing, when you compare team to team.

FIND A COMMON OPPONENT AND LETS SEE WHO DID WHAT!!!!

I dont think he was showing these stats to say who is better than who by their stats. It is to show how much depth the team has. It looks like Jefferson is balanced between their top two lines while Edina relies on their first line. Holy Angles is pretty well balanced scoring wise as well.
Thank you InYourFace09.... That is exactly what I wanted to show... not trying to pit one teams schedule against the other.
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Post by happymama »

Interesting article that is from "The Breakdown" Minnesota Sports Preview that talks about your theory of scoring lines in this section etc..

Section 2AA

Top seeds – (record, ranking, record vs. other top seeds)
1. Bloomington Jefferson (24-1-0, No. 1, 1-0-0)
2. Edina (21-4-0, No. 2, 2-0-0)
3. Holy Angels (20-4-1, No. 5, 0-1-0)
4. Burnsville (13-10-2, NR, 0-2-0)

Leading scorers
1. Danny Mattson (Holy Angels) 22-49-71
2. Zach May (Burnsville) 27-40-67
3. Anders Lee (Edina) 20-46-66
4. Marshall Everson (Edina) 35-29-64
5. Andy Pearson (Burnsville) 21-37-58

Top goaltenders
1. Casey O’Connor (Jefferson) 22-1-0, 1.35, .925
2. Johnny Ankeny (Edina) 19-4-0, 1.81, .910
3. Tommy Burke (Holy Angels) 18-4-1, 2.25, .913

The skinny: Three of the best teams in the state will duke it out in Section 2AA. We have Jefferson, Edina and Holy Angels all ranked in the top-5 in the state and all are capable of winning the whole thing this winter. Even No. 4 seed Burnsville has great talent and the possibility of pulling off a shocker. Jefferson stands above the other three top seeded teams with only one loss and a No. 1 ranking. The Jaguars have great balance with two lines that can both score, defensemen who add to that offense like Joe Faust (13-21-34) and Jeff Pauluk (9-22-31) and the Brimsek Award winner in nets in Casey O’Connor. UMD recruit Caleb Herbert (26-20-46) is the top scoring forward. Meanwhile, there are more similarities than differences between the 2-3-4 seeds. All three clubs are powered by one potent line, which means they can get hot and carry their clubs throughout the playoffs, or they can run into a defense that shuts them down and grinds out an upset. Edina has the top trio of Mr. Hockey candidates Anders Lee (20-46-66) and Marshall Everson (35-29-64) along with Connor Gaarder (22-34-56). But only Charlie Taft (16-5-21) has as many as a half dozen goals. Holy Angels rides Mr. Hockey finalist Danny Mattson (22-49-71), John Haeg (25-31-56) and Connor Reilly (25-31-56) hard for its offense, while Burnsville is paced by the high-scoring trio of Zach May (27-40-67), Andy Pearson (21-37-58 ) and Zack King (16-20-36 in just 17 games). Adam Smyth (17-18-35) also puts up goals for the Blaze, but the rest of the team has combined for just 16 goals. Holy Angels has received production from a second unit of Ryan Reilly (15-21-36), Tyler Smith (16-13-29) and Craig Fisher (10-13-23), which could bode well for their hopes.
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Post by jagopher21 »

wow i thought baker would be one of edinas top 2 scoring d. when iv seen edina he has usually been there best d. I guess with there forwards there isnt much need for him to contribute points but i would expect him to have more than 10 points.
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Post by scoreboard33 »

HShockeywatcher wrote:Holy Angels also played Shattuck and Culver Academy to offset that. What you're saying would be like trying to take Hanowski's title away because Little Falls plays an incredibly soft schedule.

It is a great feat and regardless all are very deep teams. Would be nice to see more than one of these teams at state.
Isn't this what you did when you kept saying that Jefferson didn't deserve to be ranked number 1. Selective reasoning.

Also, should we go by goals produced, because some teams get more assists than others just by the way they run their offense. Edina consistently cycles the puck and has many forwards touching the puck during offensive possessions and has a passing based breakout, so they get many more assists, than a team that employs more of a skating game.

The reasons are also why Baker doesn't have a ton of assists, once Edina gets the puck deep into the zone, the forwards start passing and get a shot without really using the d-men that much.
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