Section 4AA 2008-09

[Melvin44]

Is Marah Sobczak the best goalie in the state? She's the best I've seen, along with the Hopkins' Billadeau.

I've always loved her and yes she is one of the tops. There are others as goalies have came along way the past 5 years. I would mention them but I'm sure I'd leave some out.

I'm sure Joe could help me out.

[joehockey]

Stillwater will return alot actually and has a very strong JV team to pull from. They return an extremely talented junior class as does Roseville. Look at the top 4 teams in the section and how many goals each returns.
Roseville 109 goals-return 88 goals
Stillwater 120 goals-return 80
WBL 70 goals-return 69
Hill-Murray 110 goals-return 70

I think a cool thing is your quote on strong JV - that is the sign of a strong program and full highly competitive JV is a barometer for the girls HS hockey overall - this section has a lot of strength in the JV area. Hill plays in a weaker confernece so maybe not a fair comparison to Stillwater - I think the HM JV has lost only 3 - they are something like 19-3-1 and have something like a 6 GFA and under 1 GAA I think they have 13 shutouts? Pretty young 1-7th, 4-8th, 5-9th, 6-10th, 1-11th.

[thshockey]

Stillwater will return alot actually and has a very strong JV team to pull from. They return an extremely talented junior class as does Roseville. Look at the top 4 teams in the section and how many goals each returns.
Roseville 109 goals-return 88 goals
Stillwater 120 goals-return 80
WBL 70 goals-return 69
Hill-Murray 110 goals-return 70

I think a cool thing is your quote on strong JV - that is the sign of a strong program and full highly competitive JV is a barometer for the girls HS hockey overall - this section has a lot of strength in the JV area. Hill plays in a weaker confernece so maybe not a fair comparison to Stillwater - I think the HM JV has lost only 3 - they are something like 19-3-1 and have something like a 6 GFA and under 1 GAA I think they have 13 shutouts? Pretty young 1-7th, 4-8th, 5-9th, 6-10th, 1-11th.

It's nice to see JV coming into the subject. Yes Hill Murray does have a bit of a weaker conference, but they still have a bit of a contender with North St. Paul. NSP has a pretty good JV team with so many juniors playing both jv and varsity along with a few strong sophomores and freshmen, plus their set with goaltenders as well.
Tartan's JV for two years now, has had a better record than the varsity. I believe so far they're 9-10-3, already improving their record from last year. They also have a VERY young team. 2-7th, 4-8th, 3-9th, 4-10th, and since they only have 2 goalies, i've heard recently that Junior Kelsey Mueller has been playing the majority of them.
It seems that a lot of the JV teams this year are very young compared to last year.

[titleist]

Sobczak is definitely the best in the conference and one of the best in the state. I would still have to go with Bellemy as #1. Sobczak is only an Junior and has one more year to go and IMO will be a MS goalie finalist in 2010. The lack of defense in front of her has forced her to show her talent as well.

I'm laying down the trump card here on the goalies that I've seen, and my vote goes to Collier from Hibbing. The saves that kid makes are ridiculous. It is not uncommon for her to see 60+ shots a game, and the score to be 3-1, 2-0, I mean its sick. Just the other night, against a very strong Grand Rapids squad, 60+ shots and a 3-2 score. But as far as the SEC goes, I'd still rather have Allen from Roseville over Sobczak, to take nothing from Boss either.

[hockeywild7]

I would take Sobczak, if you saw her in the last game against Roseville, she was outstanding. Especially in the first period.

[joehockey]

Sobczak is an outstanding goalie and a work horse when you look at minutes played this year. I agree top of the SEC with her experience - I don't really know the WB goalies who are working hard or Boss or Allen at Roseville who have great stats.

Girls Goaltending has come a long way actually maybe outpaced scorers and there are some very good goalies in the 2010 and 2011 class. Looking at the cover of Lets Play Hockey this week I was trying to think who will be the 10 top Ms. Goalies in 2010 an 2011. Sobczak will be on 2010 list and here will be a few others that I have seen. These are top of mind and include what I have seen outside of the HS season. I am sure there are others - each of these goalies will be the key to how far their teams go in the playoffs. I will list in alpha order.

2010 - Kallie Billadeau at Hopkins is similar to Sobczak - started playing in HS early and can absolutely take over a game - she was an NDP U15 and was one of the top two goalies in the Elite League last fall. Like Stillwater the Hopkins team will depend on great goaltending in the playoffs.

2010 - Kaitlyn Rolando at Tartan I think this is the best goalie in the State that nobody knows. She has stolen several games this year for a young Tartan team that isn't very strong - I think they are having their best season ever.

2011 - Chloe Billadeau at Blake a cousin to Kallie is in her first season as the starter and maybe only goalie at Blake. She plays in control has great lateral movement and a very controlled mental approach.

2011 - Julia Friend at Minnetonka is another young goalie who is carrying her team to success - she will duel with Edina to get Minnetonka to State. Looks like Minnetonka - Hopkins/Billadeau had a great 2-1 goalie dual last night.

2011 - Allie Mckeever at Hill Murray a goaltender who was the Bantam A goaltender in Woodbury a year ago has had a very good first season of HS hockey. Hill Murray will depend on her play in the playoffs to compete with Stillwater or Roseville/WB/NSP - she is an intense competitior but seldom bothered/distracted - she trailed 2-0 in the first period against Stillwater and Edina but shut the door allowing Hill Murray to come back and win both games. She is very good funadamentally and may have the best lateral movement to get to the post that I have seen in girls HS hockey.

2011 - Tiana Press at BSM a goaltender who played boys hockey is really having a strong HS season. She played very well in the Elite League last fall. When she is on she is very tough to beat.

[hockeyheaven]

I would take Sobczak, if you saw her in the last game against Roseville, she was outstanding. Especially in the first period.

I would agree she is a very good goalie and made some incredible saves early in that game, but now multiply that by five. That’s what I witnessed up in Hibbing. I have to agree with Titleist. Collier is truly amazing, she is the best that I have seen this year. Ask the Roseville players I think she made 70+ saves in their game.

[Melvin44]

Sections will be reviewed/discussed and maybe re-set for 2010 & 2011 during the State Tournament. Would be nice to see these three teams spread - maybe Roseville to 5AA and either HM or Stillwater to 3AA. By any measure these are three of the top teams in the state likely ranked next week #1, #2, #3(Sec 5AA has teams ranked #7, #16, #17, #20 while Sec 3AA has only one at #12).

Here is a look at records and rosters (MSHL varsity) - these are young teams who should be strong again in 2010. (I didn't look at all rosters but I think NSP has 1 senior, WB and SP Blades 2 and Tartan maybe zero?)

#1 Roseville 23-1-1 Roster - 4 srs, 7 jrs, 2 soph, 3 fr, 1 8th (17 - 6 underclass)
#2 Hill Murray 21-3-0 (play BSM 2/10) Roster 5 srs, 5 jrs, 3 soph, 6 fr (19 - 9 underclass)
#3 Stillwater 21-4-0 Roster 5 srs, 7 jrs, 8 sophs, 3 fr, 1 8th (22 - 12 underclass)
#4 White Bear 14-9-2
#5 NSP 15-9-1
#6 CDH 5-20
#7 Mlps Novas 9-13-2
#8 Tartan 7-17
#9 Blades 2-22

I agree strongly for realignment and wish the girls would seed top 32 or all the way and then play down. I know it will never happen but wouldn't that be awesome 1 plays 32, 2 plays 31. There would be travel but I'm sure most teams wouldn't mind. State would be the best ever.

Yes, all teams return excellent players and will reload. My comments were that the TOP teams lose some VERY KEY players that will be missed and that WBL really only loses 4 pts. You have to dream.

Joe, Good one about Anderson (Coach) If that was to happen we'd be moving. Kidding of course. Always support the coach!

Joe. If anybody can get realignment done you can. Make it happen buddy...

[thshockey]

i just have a question:
What makes a good goaltender? i mean do u go by stats? or by how many stops they make to the shots they recieve?

because there are some really good goalies out there that dont get recognized since they're not on one of the top teams in state. Yes Marah is a good goalie...but look at the team in front of her. Same goes for Roseville, Tonka, and Hill; they all have very good offense and defense in front of their goalies.

when you have teams like Cooper with Burns who is just playing outstanding this year, she had a 63 shot/save shut out this year! i think she should be nominated also. Tartan also, Rolando is a very solid goaltender, and lately her team has stepped it up! They also have Mueller, but she's been playing JV lately. Tartan definitely has strong goal tending to back up their team.

so can you really judge a goalie just by looking at the teams stats/overall with wins and losses? or by how much work they're putting into making the saves and the amount of saves they're making?

[Bensonmum]

i just have a question:
What makes a good goaltender?
Yes Marah is a good goalie...but look at the team in front of her. Same goes for Roseville, Tonka, and Hill; they all have very good offense and defense in front of their goalies......

so can you really judge a goalie just by looking at the teams stats/overall with wins and losses? or by how much work they're putting into making the saves and the amount of saves they're making?

Stillwater is an excellent team no doubt--but in the 3 games I've seen this year they've given up a large amount of breakaways and point-blank opportunities, and Sobczak keeps them in the game. She was 4 for 5 on breakaways vs. Roseville the other night, and 4 of them were against Brausen and Capistrant. It might just be the 3 games that I've seen (which were all vs. top-5 opponents) but it doesn't look like team defense is the strength of that team.

[thshockey]

i just have a question:
What makes a good goaltender?
Yes Marah is a good goalie...but look at the team in front of her. Same goes for Roseville, Tonka, and Hill; they all have very good offense and defense in front of their goalies......

so can you really judge a goalie just by looking at the teams stats/overall with wins and losses? or by how much work they're putting into making the saves and the amount of saves they're making?

Stillwater is an excellent team no doubt--but in the 3 games I've seen this year they've given up a large amount of breakaways and point-blank opportunities, and Sobczak keeps them in the game. She was 4 for 5 on breakaways vs. Roseville the other night, and 4 of them were against Brausen and Capistrant. It might just be the 3 games that I've seen (which were all vs. top-5 opponents) but it doesn't look like team defense is the strength of that team.

ok but still, she has a good team to back her up! her offense is really good and the key of their team.
im just saying compared to teams that need good goalies, im just wondering what actually makes a good goaltender because i've heard so much talk about Marah but it's like...u have to think about it, she has a good team infront of her.

[Hansonbrother]

i just have a question:
What makes a good goaltender?
Yes Marah is a good goalie...but look at the team in front of her. Same goes for Roseville, Tonka, and Hill; they all have very good offense and defense in front of their goalies......

so can you really judge a goalie just by looking at the teams stats/overall with wins and losses? or by how much work they're putting into making the saves and the amount of saves they're making?

Stillwater is an excellent team no doubt--but in the 3 games I've seen this year they've given up a large amount of breakaways and point-blank opportunities, and Sobczak keeps them in the game. She was 4 for 5 on breakaways vs. Roseville the other night, and 4 of them were against Brausen and Capistrant. It might just be the 3 games that I've seen (which were all vs. top-5 opponents) but it doesn't look like team defense is the strength of that team.

ok but still, she has a good team to back her up! her offense is really good and the key of their team.
im just saying compared to teams that need good goalies, im just wondering what actually makes a good goaltender because i've heard so much talk about Marah but it's like...u have to think about it, she has a good team infront of her.

Case and point regarding an earlier blog about Collier from Hibbing. There is a team that has no offense and yet every game is close...well, almost every game.

[hockeya1a]

Stillwater is an excellent team no doubt--but in the 3 games I've seen this year they've given up a large amount of breakaways and point-blank opportunities, and Sobczak keeps them in the game. She was 4 for 5 on breakaways vs. Roseville the other night, and 4 of them were against Brausen and Capistrant. It might just be the 3 games that I've seen (which were all vs. top-5 opponents) but it doesn't look like team defense is the strength of that team.

ok but still, she has a good team to back her up! her offense is really good and the key of their team.
im just saying compared to teams that need good goalies, im just wondering what actually makes a good goaltender because i've heard so much talk about Marah but it's like...u have to think about it, she has a good team infront of her.

Case and point regarding an earlier blog about Collier from Hibbing. There is a team that has no offense and yet every game is close...well, almost every game.

And having a good D in front of a goalie is very helpful too, If they keep the quality shots down and keep the rebounds from being put in does not hurt either. you will see that the goalies with the most shots against are not usually the top teams.
so I would imagine a goalie on the saves leader board and then on the sv% board top end would be a goalie doing there job for the team.

[Melvin44]

THS. I love your passion for the lesser schools.

There's nothing wrong with saying a goalie is the best they've seen. As it's ok to mention goalies who have solid play. Noone is saying all other goalies aren't good. They just don't see them and therefore wouldn't know. I think save % is a great way to rate a goalie. That being said I know a lot of goalie parents are keeping stats and that could be an issue as it's easy to add 2-3 shots to every flurry in front of the net.

Most of these top goalies play for AAA summer teams and face top scorers from all over the country and Canada and still shine. Some of the lesser names have great games but also give up 7, 8, 9 in some games. Just a thought.

As far as Sobczak. My daughter says her along with Billideau are two of her favorites to play with as a D because they're always in the game yelling out things like. 1 man on, got time, screen etc. etc. Talking is a huge part of being a great goalie. So many goalies don't communicate. Goalies that do are special.

[thshockey]

THS. I love your passion for the lesser schools.

There's nothing wrong with saying a goalie is the best they've seen. As it's ok to mention goalies who have solid play. Noone is saying all other goalies aren't good. They just don't see them and therefore wouldn't know. I think save % is a great way to rate a goalie. That being said I know a lot of goalie parents are keeping stats and that could be an issue as it's easy to add 2-3 shots to every flurry in front of the net.

Most of these top goalies play for AAA summer teams and face top scorers from all over the country and Canada and still shine. Some of the lesser names have great games but also give up 7, 8, 9 in some games. Just a thought.

As far as Sobczak. My daughter says her along with Billideau are two of her favorites to play with as a D because they're always in the game yelling out things like. 1 man on, got time, screen etc. etc. Talking is a huge part of being a great goalie. So many goalies don't communicate. Goalies that do are special.

thank you. the only problem is is that these goalies that play for less experienced teams, will obviously let in more than 4 goals in a game but look at the amount of shots they take.

it's sad that many goalies that are good, but play for bad teams, dont get on AAA teams because they don't get recognized for it. Teams wanna take goalies that play for Top teams usually.

Billideau is a good goalie there's no doubt about that, Marah is too, but i've seen better than her. I would say she is one of the best in state, but for me she doesnt cut the top 5.
There are also many goalies that talk, some u can even hear from the crowd.

[gogogophers35]

I know the Sobczak family and the passion Marah has is incredible!!
What makes her stand out from others is her ability to play in the big games.
You talk about high shots on goal as a big reason to call someone outstanding and I would say from having a son who played in the nets your wrong its the quality of shots weather it be 2 or 200. Brausen from Roseville is such an awesome player up and down the ice!!! I would say and stand by it she is better then a vast majority of boys fast skater, quick hands, and moves. Facing shots and break-a-ways from this quality of a player, shows talent. One amazing fact about Sobczak most wouldn't know is she has been self taught she has no credit to give to Stauber...Carrol or any other high profile goalie school out there. As for teams that aren't noticed because of winning records you are way off the mark! Sobczak started out in NSP and was asked to play Minnesota selects her very 1st year she played U12B.
That was her first year in the net and they were not a good team!!
If you have the talent, it will be noticed and stand out no matter what team you are on.
Thshockey keep working hard stay on your game and don't look for recognition from others look inside yourself! Tartan is building and getting better let it happen don't dis others. Hold your head up from the success you have accomplished and move on to the next big game! Good luck in sections.

[Melvin44]

THS

Who's best is an opinion and everyone will probably pick someone different. That's why it's great to mention names. I just don't like it when people say no she's not. To me that's personal. All these girls work so hard and deserve to be mentioned. Yes girls don't get noticed and don't get the opportunity to play for certain AAA teams. I will say that I personally know Mara and know she works very hard at her game. She is special!


Example: She's great Reply: You know the girl I like is.

[thshockey]

I know the Sobczak family and the passion Marah has is incredible!!
What makes her stand out from others is her ability to play in the big games.
You talk about high shots on goal as a big reason to call someone outstanding and I would say from having a son who played in the nets your wrong its the quality of shots weather it be 2 or 200. Brausen from Roseville is such an awesome player up and down the ice!!! I would say and stand by it she is better then a vast majority of boys fast skater, quick hands, and moves. Facing shots and break-a-ways from this quality of a player, shows talent. One amazing fact about Sobczak most wouldn't know is she has been self taught she has no credit to give to Stauber...Carrol or any other high profile goalie school out there. As for teams that aren't noticed because of winning records you are way off the mark! Sobczak started out in NSP and was asked to play Minnesota selects her very 1st year she played U12B.
That was her first year in the net and they were not a good team!!
If you have the talent, it will be noticed and stand out no matter what team you are on.
Thshockey keep working hard stay on your game and don't look for recognition from others look inside yourself! Tartan is building and getting better let it happen don't dis others. Hold your head up from the success you have accomplished and move on to the next big game! Good luck in sections.

yea i'll respect your opinion on this, but im not going to agree with you. Im not expecting you to agree with me, nor anyone else, because EVERYONE has their own opinions. DOnt' tell me im wrong, dont tell me im right, just get the fact that im expressing what i see!!

I dont play for Tartan by the way, i'm a spectator, like most people here.

YES marah is a good goalie, im not dissing her in any way! so buzz off seriously. Yes she has a lot of dedication, but so do a lot of others. Everyone keeps leaving out so many other talented goaltenders that are in the STate jsut because of Marah. She's good, and she's solid, but she's not number one. She can work to be number one, and so should other goalies.
Not to mention, im not looking for her whole life story of playing hockey, just letting you know.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT! THE AMOUNT OF SHOTS A GOALIE TAKES CAN DEFINE A GOOD GOALIE!!! If they're taking 40+ shots in the majority of the games and only letting in a few THATS GOOD! YOU CANT SAY THAT'S NOT GOOD!! I watched Kelsey Mueller play in the JV tournament yesterday and today, she took a total of 102 shots and stopped 94 of them! that's good! But what do i know right? it's my opinion so leave it at that!
You dont know everything about goal tending, no one does. So just leave it be. seriously.

[goalzilla]

I know this is the 4AA thread, but I love how it has turned into a discussion about goalies. Finally a debate about the; IMO most important player on a team. When watching a game Many of these kids mentioned may be talented or have decent stats. What defines a good goalie in my view I watch the kid and see how they move and play, these are what I call talent factors then there are other factors. Strong or weak defense a strong defense can make an average goalie look good and help pad the stats. Shot quantity versus quality. A tender may stop 100 shots in a game but if they are weak they should. They may only face 17 shots but if they are high quality shots it really makes the comparison apples and oranges. When making comparisons take the time to physically watch the goalie and take the other mitigating factors into consideration when assessing their talent.
Maybe we need to start a goalie threat? Probably wouldnt last long since it would probably get minimal attention much like many goalies do on most teams.

Good luck everyone at sections.

[Bensonmum]

I was expecting to see some mention of the controversial ending to last night's NSP-WBL game. I walked in the arena minutes after it finished and there was still quite a buzz.
Anybody??

[hockeyheaven]

No controversy. The officials signaled goal and did not hear the buzzer nor see the clock run down…so goal at the 16:59 mark of the third period…2-1 WBL. IMO it was the first break WBL got all game from the officials…very timely I may add.

[joehockey]

And then there were 4.......So Super Tuesday 2/17 at Aldrich Arena!

Stillwater vs. Hill Murray at 6 PM

White Bear vs. Roseville at 8 PM

GHS Hockey provides the following odds from KRACH

So GHS tell me again what this means as far as odds on the outcome for Tuesday:

1 1 Roseville 23-1-1 1220.164
5 2 Stillwater Area 21-4-0 499.743
6 3 Hill-Murray 21-4-0 361.074
23 4 White Bear Lake 14-9-2 69.880

Stillwater vs. Hill Murray
WBL vs. Roseville

SW is a 1.384-to-1 favorite over HM (pretty even odds!) the 1.384 comes from dividing 499.743 by 361.074 (the respective team ratings); or you could say that the probability of SW beating HM is 499.743/(499.743+361.074) = 58.1%.

Similarly RV is a 17.46-to-1 favorite over WBL (odds) or the probability of RV beating WBL is 94.6%.

[joehockey]

Here is a look at the Stillwater vs. Hill Murray match up. Although stats probably don't mean anything in a single game both teams have a lot of talent, know each other well on and off the ice and are looking forwward to the match. The teams played one game early this year and the final was 4-2 Hill Murray. Both teams are 22-4-0. Stillwater scored 4.8 goals per game compared to HM at 4.4. Both teams gave up 1.5 Goals against.

Stillwater has a lot of fire power led by Callie Dahl the Ms. Hockey Finalist and list the following numbers by class: 5-12, 6-11, 7-10, 1-9. Marah Sobczak a junior has played all but 21 minutes this year and has posted excellent results.

NAME........................................Grade G-A-Pts
#18 Kristina King 11 23-27-50
#8 Callie Dahl 12 24-22-46
#9 Amanda Cartony 10 18-16-34
#12 Allison Eder-Zdechlik 9 11-17-28
#14 Cassandra Salmen 11 11-17-28
#10 Lauren Charpentier 12 9-18-27
#26 Lisa Tuuri 11 7-17-24
#5 Lyndsey Hawkins 12 7-10-17
#21 Caitlin Hewes 10 4-10-14
#6 Kristin Skoog 11 4-9-13
#16 Allison Lorbiecki 12 2-10-12
#15 Janessa Philipczyk 10 3-7-10
#29 Libby Otto 10 2-6-8
#19 Kaitlin Johnston 10 1-2-3
#13 Kaitlin McShea 12 1-2-3
#22 Samantha Reiter 10 1-1-2
#35 Marah Sobczak 11 0-1-1
#20 Alli O'Brien 10 0-1-1

GOALIE STATISTICS
NAME Grade Record
#35 Marah Sobczak 11 22-4-0 39 GA 1.5 GAA 566 Saves 0.936 SV% 1267 min
#33 Hannah Dickman 10 0-0-0 0 0 7 1.167 SV% 21 min

Hill Murray is a little younger with the following distribution by class 5-12, 6-11, 3-10, 6-9 and the following stats. Hill Murray has two very good goaltenders sophomore Allie McKeever who has played 2/3 of the games and senior Lizz Wenzell who has been very strong in 8 games.

Name/Position Grade G-A-Pts
#16 Hannah Brandt, F 9 19-31-50
#10 Melissa Doyle, F 11 23-16-39
#7 Casey Knajdek, D 12 17-10-27
#11 Nicole Stumpf, F 12 11-14-25
#21 Jessica Harren, F 12 14-10-24
#9 Maggie McDowell, F 11 7-14-21
#5 Mackenzie Saad, F 11 6-11-17
#12 Maggie Pendleton, D 11 5-9-14
#2 Jac Ley, D 11 1-10-11
#22 Kaylee Sommer, F 12 3-7-10
#17 Sarah Bruchu, D 9 1-9-10
#20 Marissa Brandt, F 10 2-7-9
#15 Tory Heller, F 9 2-6-8
#4 Catie Dolan, D 11 3-4-7
#6 Taylor Zarembinski, F/D 10 4-2-6
#18 Teona Zepeda, F 9 1-4-5
#14 Sydney Fabian, F 9 2-2-4
#3 Mikayla Curtis, F 9 1-1-2

GOALIE STATISTICS
NAME Grade Record
#1 Ali McKeever 10 14-3-0 24 GA 1.41 GAA 294 SV 0.925 SV% 868 min
#31 Liz Wenzel 12 7-1-0 13 GA 1.63 GAA 106 SV 0.891 SV% 408 min

[monkeysox]

I started out this season as a casual fan of the Hill Murray girls program but as the season went on, and I watched certain people in this forum do a Virtual Lap dance for the hockey coach on a daily basis. It made me sick to see a parent act this way to massage the ego of a coach. After watching my 3rd Hill Murray game of the season tonight, I have to say that I now see my Hill Murray glass as more than half empty. I’ve seen nothing special from this team other than they were cocky before the game, they lacked originality during the game, and after losing the Hill parents showed a lack of class by making excuses for the loss. At least they can be proud of another Classic Suburban conference title. Are there any AA teams in that conference?

[thshockey]

I started out this season as a casual fan of the Hill Murray girls program but as the season went on, and I watched certain people in this forum do a Virtual Lap dance for the hockey coach on a daily basis. It made me sick to see a parent act this way to massage the ego of a coach. After watching my 3rd Hill Murray game of the season tonight, I have to say that I now see my Hill Murray glass as more than half empty. I’ve seen nothing special from this team other than they were cocky before the game, they lacked originality during the game, and after losing the Hill parents showed a lack of class by making excuses for the loss. At least they can be proud of another Classic Suburban conference title. Are there any AA teams in that conference?

if ur asking if all the teams in the Classic Suburban Conference are AA, i believe there's only three. Hill, North, and Tartan. the others are from section A.