Channel 5 story regarding incident at Parade Arena!!??

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Just_My_Luck
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Post by Just_My_Luck »

I was in attendance at a Mpls/Park game recently and their parent behavior was shockingly bad. This was prior to the incident vs Johnson.
WildFan
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Post by WildFan »

I saw this story and I think all of us have seen this type of guy at a rink. Pretty pathetic.

How anybody can become 'that guy' is beyond me.
DonnyHockey
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Post by DonnyHockey »

hey it happens at all levels which is sad. A guy I work with has a kid in the Princeton association and is a Mite. He said their head coach is a complete tool and has had a few incidents this year.
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Post by muckandgrind »

WildFan wrote:I saw this story and I think all of us have seen this type of guy at a rink. Pretty pathetic.

How anybody can become 'that guy' is beyond me.
Not only have I seen this TYPE of guy...I have seen THIS guy. After this story aired, I was talking to a fellow parent and he reminded me of a game a couple of years ago when our team was playing Johnson and this guy (and a few others) were acting up then as well. He wasn't acting as over the top as it appears in this story, but I do remember him acting incredibly obnoxious. And the language used by him, parents, and the head coach during the game was beyond what you would consider acceptable at a youth game.

The funny part about this is that no parent I have talked to is shocked at all that Johnson parents were involved in this story.

Hopefully, the Johnson association can use this story as a wake up call and demand better behavior from their parents in the stands.
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Post by gohawk4 »

muckandgrind wrote:
WildFan wrote:I saw this story and I think all of us have seen this type of guy at a rink. Pretty pathetic.

How anybody can become 'that guy' is beyond me.
Not only have I seen this TYPE of guy...I have seen THIS guy. After this story aired, I was talking to a fellow parent and he reminded me of a game a couple of years ago when our team was playing Johnson and this guy (and a few others) were acting up then as well. He wasn't acting as over the top as it appears in this story, but I do remember him acting incredibly obnoxious. And the language used by him, parents, and the head coach during the game was beyond what you would consider acceptable at a youth game.

The funny part about this is that no parent I have talked to is shocked at all that Johnson parents were involved in this story.

Hopefully, the Johnson association can use this story as a wake up call and demand better behavior from their parents in the stands.
Muck, I will change this to hopefully all associations demand better behavior from parents, and coaches. We forget many times that this is about kids having fun and playing a game that they should love. Not about a parent having their kid make it to hs or college or pro hockey. It is about letting kids enjoy a great game. We should not have coaches, kids, refs quitting the game because of actions outside of the game.
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Post by muckandgrind »

gohawk4 wrote:
muckandgrind wrote:
WildFan wrote:I saw this story and I think all of us have seen this type of guy at a rink. Pretty pathetic.

How anybody can become 'that guy' is beyond me.
Not only have I seen this TYPE of guy...I have seen THIS guy. After this story aired, I was talking to a fellow parent and he reminded me of a game a couple of years ago when our team was playing Johnson and this guy (and a few others) were acting up then as well. He wasn't acting as over the top as it appears in this story, but I do remember him acting incredibly obnoxious. And the language used by him, parents, and the head coach during the game was beyond what you would consider acceptable at a youth game.

The funny part about this is that no parent I have talked to is shocked at all that Johnson parents were involved in this story.

Hopefully, the Johnson association can use this story as a wake up call and demand better behavior from their parents in the stands.
Muck, I will change this to hopefully all associations demand better behavior from parents, and coaches. We forget many times that this is about kids having fun and playing a game that they should love. Not about a parent having their kid make it to hs or college or pro hockey. It is about letting kids enjoy a great game. We should not have coaches, kids, refs quitting the game because of actions outside of the game.
I agree. I thought I remember MN Hockey (or maybe it was just District 1) thinking about having all parents sign a "Parent Code of Conduct" form...

Personally, as I have stated in other threads, I don't have a huge issue with a parent (or coach) questioning a ref...as long as they don't incessantly badger the ref with insults and profanity..but there are easily defined limits to what should be acceptable behavior and what is not acceptable behavior.

Parents should never taunt or yell at the players on the ice, whether they are on your team or the other. Parents are there to cheer on their team....
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Post by Johnsonpres »

First I would like to thank everyone for "IT's Time To Bash Johnson". I know we have some problems in our association as does every association out there. Everyone that has posted on this board has had a bad parent or two and if you say you don't you are kidding yourselfs. We work hard at Johnson to have a good program and now that KSTP singled us out it is time to jump on the "bash wagon". I have been here for 35 years and in those years I have witnessed alot of things that could have had tv stations and newspapers busy writing and reporting for days, Has it really come down to who can make who look bad. Yes the parent involved will have to live with this report for awhile due to his actions, but let's not forget this is for the kids and keep other issues seperate. I have seen first hand many players with single parents grow and get good educations and become good citizens in our community and others. In closing Johnson hockey has been a savior to alot of kids and don't just let a few adults affect the way you think of the whole program.

Thank You,

Greg Pogreba (Johnson President)
My_Kid_Loves_Hockey
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Post by My_Kid_Loves_Hockey »

Hey we played Johnson Squirt A in the Hastings tourny just a few weeks ago and never witnessed or heard any parent do anythings to give the association a bad name. Remember don't let one bannana spoil the whole bunch.
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Post by WildFan »

DonnyHockey wrote:hey it happens at all levels which is sad. A guy I work with has a kid in the Princeton association and is a Mite. He said their head coach is a complete tool and has had a few incidents this year. I guess last weekend was the topper. Apparently their coach accused the Roger's team they were playing of having a player that wasn't a Mite and wanted proof he was. He also accused Rogers to running up the score with this kid. This took place on the ice and carried over to outside the locker room where my buddy heard it all. The Roger's team showed this coach their team book to prove he was a Mite. They don't even keep score at the Mite level....what a tool. My buddy said the association has had a few complaints over this incident.
Can you imagine this guy in Squirt's, Peewee's or Bantam's if he's acting like this in a Mite hockey game? A coach represents the assoication and a team and he's not helping Princeton hockey in anyway.
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Post by WildFan »

Johnsonpres wrote:First I would like to thank everyone for "IT's Time To Bash Johnson". I know we have some problems in our association as does every association out there. Everyone that has posted on this board has had a bad parent or two and if you say you don't you are kidding yourselfs. We work hard at Johnson to have a good program and now that KSTP singled us out it is time to jump on the "bash wagon". I have been here for 35 years and in those years I have witnessed alot of things that could have had tv stations and newspapers busy writing and reporting for days, Has it really come down to who can make who look bad. Yes the parent involved will have to live with this report for awhile due to his actions, but let's not forget this is for the kids and keep other issues seperate. I have seen first hand many players with single parents grow and get good educations and become good citizens in our community and others. In closing Johnson hockey has been a savior to alot of kids and don't just let a few adults affect the way you think of the whole program.

Thank You,

Greg Pogreba (Johnson President)
I agree one bad group of parents or a bad parent as in this case doesn't mean the whole association is a bag of bad apples. I think in all arena's should be able to ban parents on a case by case basis. You act up you're not welcome. Sounds like this guy has had other incidents and he shouldn't be allowed to watch hockey or allowed in the arena.
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Post by 32HockeyFan »

My son has played against Johnson in tournaments the last 3 years at the Bantam A, Bantam A and PeeWee A levels respectively. So this would mean it was the same group of parents or one parent that was involved in this event and the same group that other’s are bashing. I have to say that we have never experienced or noticed anything but pleasant, courteous people in the games my son played against Johnson. This bashing is totally uncalled for. As Johnson Pres stated, there are some overzealous parents in every association and for anyone to condemn an entire association due to an incident with one person is irresponsible. Remember it takes two to argue and in this case, from what’s been posted, it seems like both sides have fault here, and not at an association or even a team level, but at the individual level.
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Post by trippedovertheblueline »

Prez " I have seen first hand many players with single parents grow and get good educations"

Did the number 5, report the guy as a single parent, or are you just adding to the story?
Johnsonpres
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Post by Johnsonpres »

Let's put another spin on it. Any thing else you want to critque? By the way yes he is a single parent are you happy. Enough said on this story from the Johnson folks.
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