Channel 5 story regarding incident at Parade Arena!!??

jhshockeyfan22 · Post by **jhshockeyfan22** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:27 pm

I would like to express my complete disbelief in how this story was presented to the public. I was a Johnson parent in the stands last night who witnessed this entire situation. First of all, the parent that was removed from the arena wasn't even in the stands until just before the 3rd period and was unaware of the previous comments made by the two women from Mpls who chose to confront several Johnson parents by telling them that they should move and sit by the other "complaining parents" and keep their mouths quiet. When one of the Johnson players had a tumble with the Mpls goalie, a male spectator from Mpls screamed "Get that little a**hole off the ice". (From prior games between the two teams, I have personally witnessed this same man use profanity and make comments directed at our players.) A Johnson parent turned to him (WHILE THE PARK POLICE WERE STANDING BEHIND THEM!) and asked him not to use that kind of language towards one of our players. The Mpls. Park Police asked the MINNEAPOLIS parent to move away and watch his language. Once the actual Mpls. police officers showed up, two women in the stands pointed towards the group of Johnson parents. When approached by the officer, the Johnson parent was caught off-guard since he wasn't involved in the intial argument. He may have responded indifferently to the officer, who when responded was told there was an actual fight in the stands. That wasn't the case... when Cusick was confronted by the officer, he responded defensively on account of the officers aggressive attitude displayed towards this parent without asking for both sides of the story. There was no profanity directed at anyone by the Johnson parents. This whole thing was blown out of proportion by three individuals from Minneapolis, which two of them have had previous issues controlling their behavior and voices in the stands. Minneapolis parents.....Please get your story straight and be fair to both sides before running to the news to try and get out in front of your bad behavior. Everyone present knows what happened... I would bet that some of your own parents are embarassed by your behavior!

My_Kid_Loves_Hockey · Post by **My_Kid_Loves_Hockey** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:13 pm

Here is a link to the story on Channel 5's website:

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S764759.shtml?cat=1

They paint the picture as 1 person that was the troublemaker/instigator. I'm sure the 5 is looking into both sides of this

Haute hockeymom · Post by **Haute hockeymom** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:30 pm

Great video

I love the part about how the KSTP Mugshot "is from a prior arrest for Disorderly Conduct"

What a coincidence

Not crazy about the attack dogs in his front yard though - poor curb appeal. Not very inviting and bad for resale.

hawkhockey · Post by **hawkhockey** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:36 pm

something like this came up in our game saturday evening.. parents yelling at players and refusing to leave. fortunately no one had to call the cops.

iwearmysunglassesatnight · Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:53 pm

By the report he seems guilty. Probably just get a "say your sorry" from
district 1 though. They never throw the guys like this out for good.
Gotta like how they go to the scene of the crime, good job #5, and yes the german shepards added a nice touch.

blainehockeymom · Post by **blainehockeymom** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:59 pm

jhshockeyfan24 i don't care if you think the Johnson parents are innocent. I don't believe cops arrest innocent people. But don't talk crap about any MPLS parents. The whole scuffle was started from two rambunctious Johnson parents who came and sat in the MPLS parent section, trying to start a commotion. The MPLS dad that supposedly swore at a Johnson kid did not swear at all. After a Johnson player checked the MPLS goalie he said "Kick him out." I personally know this man and he is a very nice and supportive hockey dad, he works really hard to give his kid all he can to be successful in hockey or anything else he is doing. The man has not done anything bad at a hockey game ever before and I don't think this man has even done anything rude or disrespectful ever in his life. I believe the only parents swearing were the Johnson parents. It shames me to see the trouble that this great sport hockey brought to Parade ice garden yesterday evening.

conditioningsucks · Post by **conditioningsucks** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:06 pm

Wow!

Sounds like quite the hockey game. Fights on the ice, cops in the crowd.

JHShockeyfan - couple of quick questions - What makes you think Minneapolis Park fans contacted the media? The story looks to me like someone woke up this morning, it was a slow news day, and they looked at the police blotter and decided to make a story out of something that wasn't that big of a deal. Its a perfect news story - hockey parent gets arrested at rink - just to show how crazy youth hockey can be.

If this game was as tense (news report said there was a fight on the ice) and there was some tension in the stands as a result of what was going on on the ice, why would this guy go into the stands in the third period and plant himself not with the Johnson parents, but in the midst of the Minneapolis Park fans?

Sorry, but this sounds like a case of bad judgement. Instead of diffusing tension it sounds like this guy was escalating and the cops seemed to agree. I am not excusing any of your allegations towards Minneapolis Park parents or saying what you say didn't happen, but parents need some 'spidey sense' when things are a little tense and they need to walk away even if the parents from another team are complete idiots....not enter the fray to escalate tension which when I hear your account and the police account that is what this guy was doing.

Finally, a basic rule, when a copper tells ya to move along....you say 'yes sir' and do it. You don't play games or argue with a badge or get 'defensive'. Cops don't like it and it gets ya a free car ride to the precinct!

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:06 pm

I wasn't at this game, but I have been to other games where my kids have played Johnson and, from what I have witnessed of Johnson parents in the stands, I wouldn't at all be shocked if this story was accurate as presented.

That's not to say that all Johnson parents are out of control, but I have witnessed more poor behavior from that group of parents than I have from any other association. Usually, it's just loud swearing. I also recall that their A PeeWee coach from last year liked to curse loudly from the bench as well, which is obviously a bad example to set for both the players and the parents of the players. I believe he was the "big" guy.

iwearmysunglassesatnight · Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:11 pm

Why were the Mpls Park Police already present at the Bantam game? Is that normal for this arena, or these associations?

puckfan · Post by **puckfan** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:01 am

Blainehockeymom,

You are stating facts(The MPLS dad that supposedly swore at a Johnson kid did not swear at all. After a Johnson player checked the MPLS goalie he said "Kick him out."), were you at the game?

jBlaze3000 · Post by **jBlaze3000** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:03 am

So who won the game?

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:44 am

jBlaze3000 wrote:So who won the game?

According to the Bantam Scores thread, Park won 6-2.

jhshockeyfan22 · Post by **jhshockeyfan22** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:15 pm

First of all... the Johnson parent was not arrested. His detainment was a result of a comment to the officer... NOT to a Mpls parent. There was no swearing from the Johnson parents that I heard. Blainehockeymom.... the parent from Mpls who you claim is so saintly came and stood behind the two Johnson parents who were standing between the two groups of women that were exchanging words prior to this incident. He did in fact call our player (after running into the goalie) an a**hole... I was sitting there and heard it. This parent has been obnoxious other times that we have played Mpls. as well. I do agree with conditioning sucks that it was bad judgement for the parent to say anything to the police but they did come into the arena only hearing one side of the story... and that was from the Mpls parents. The two Johnson dads that were standing there had no previous verbal altercations with any other parents that game.

There is no room in this sport to do anything but to try and positively influence our children. I have NEVER made a comment about a player on the ice (except for maybe my own!) and feel that parents need to put themselves in check and keep their mouths shut in the stands... regardless of where they are sitting! Comments about other peoples kids should be kept to yourself unless you are looking to provoke that kids parents which in that case you may just get what you are asking for.

blainehockeymom · Post by **blainehockeymom** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:39 pm

Yes i was at the game. My nephew is on the MPLS team, I went to see a good hockey game but I never expected to see what I saw.

nahc · Post by **nahc** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:48 pm

Do these teams play again??!! I want to be in the stands for that one!!!

the game · Post by **the game** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:16 pm

nahc wrote:Do these teams play again??!! I want to be in the stands for that one!!!

They could meet again in districts or reginionls. But it right now is the most probable match up for the D1 champoinship game, if so that game will be very interesting.

jhshockeyfan22, I think anyone who has had the expieience of playing Johnson is probably not going to take your side. I do not have a kid on either team or either assosiaction therfore was not there, but I have kids who have played your association. And to put is kindley, your parents were a little less then kind

And Minneapolis-Park being involved in some drama... What else is new

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muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:38 pm

the game wrote:
nahc wrote:Do these teams play again??!! I want to be in the stands for that one!!!
They could meet again in districts or reginionls. But it right now is the most probable match up for the D1 champoinship game, if so that game will be very interesting.

jhshockeyfan22, I think anyone who has had the expieience of playing Johnson is probably not going to take your side. I do not have a kid on either team or either assosiaction therfore was not there, but I have kids who have played your association. And to put is kindley, your parents were a little less then kind

And Minneapolis-Park being involved in some drama... What else is new

That's putting it kindly...

I agree. Johnson parents do not have the best rep around District 1.

iseepalms · Post by **iseepalms** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:12 pm

I have seen these two teams play each other for four years now. Four years ago mpls/park had a player on defense that was out of control all the time, and their coach was a wack job and they had to get rid of him. Most of the bad feeling they have against Johnson stems from beating Johnson in Pee Wee's during the season and the last two years Johnson beat them in the play-offs and sending them home.. Now that they are in Bantams history could repeat itself. I know Johnson fans can be a little vocal at times but they cannot hold a candle to Mpls/Park. Mpls/Park really hates being in District 1 but won't leave because this is the only district they have a chance to make it to the regionals. Mpls/Park why don't you just leave District 1.

conditioningsucks · Post by **conditioningsucks** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:47 pm

Geez,

Iseepalms and JHShockey....listen to yourselves.

From everything I have read and seen here one of your parents stepped over the line - not with Minneapolis Park parents - but with the police.

You have blamed Minneapolis Park parents for calling the media to "cover up for their bad behavior". Yet, as I have stated before this was a made for 6:00pm story on a slow news day. No murders, stabbings, or burning apartments on the police blotter....but look, a hockey parent gets charged with disorderly conduct...send someone over there. I guarantee that had this taken place in an outlier, like Chaska or Maple Grove they wouldn't have wasted the time sending out the reporter, but Parade and the Minneapolis PD are ten minutes from channel 5.

You have blamed Minneapolis Park parents for sicking the cops on you, but admit that this wouldn't have ended up on channel 5 if your parent would have used sound judgement in dealing with the cops.

You have admitted that your parent entered the stands in the third period and planted himself vocally among the Minneapolis Park faithful, while not explaining why he would do this in what appears to have been a tense atmosphere. Looks like an instigator to me and I am sure others.

You now claim the Minneapolis Park parents "don't hold a candle" to your behavior? My kids team has played Minneapolis Park once this year and I have watched them in a tournament. I will note they had a couple of screamers. I have also witnessed dozens of teams, including my own kids, that have a couple of screamers this year. I don't like it...but to each their own.

Again, listen to yourselves. You are on this board airing your dirty laundry and bitterness at Minneapolis Park because one of your parents got charged with disorderly conduct due to behavior which you admit was bad judgement on that parents part - your posts seem to want to deflect the issue of bad judgement towards blaming someone else for your problems.

After reading your posts, as well as 'muckandgrinds' and others testifying for your parents poor behavior at rinks....there is only one opinion I can form from this whole escapade.

I want to know when the next time these two play so I can witness some of this parental behavior. Someone please post when the time comes.

SLP/SW Coach · Post by **SLP/SW Coach** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:10 pm

iseepalms wrote:.

I would stick to the facts, and not your own biased opinion on things.
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones, right?

I, personally, am no longer affiliated with Mpls Park Hockey, and yes I assume that I am that PWA Coach who you call a wack job, nice choice of words. "Got rid of me?" I'm pretty sure that is not the way it went down. I spent 5 years coaching in SLP (Mpls Park) before I moved and began coaching somewhere else. I'm pretty sure I hold the respect of the vast majority of those I have meet both on and off the ice. (Including those involved at Johnson (am I right, JohnsonPres?), Como (Bantam Coaches), Irondale (Previous and Current Coaches), Washburn, Richfield, Highland as well as those involved in Dist 3, Dist 6, Dist 8, Dist 10 teams, where I still talk to and have scrimmage games against them yearly.)

4 years ago these 2nd year Bantams were 2nd Squirts. It amazes me that there would be a squirt player that an adult would consider "out-of-control" in a non-checking league. Or maybe you got your "facts" mixed up?

I have no problem sticking my neck out, however those who choose to come on an internet message board and "throw stones" have nothing better to do than hide behind screen names. Kudos to you.

Also, in my opinion Mpls Park, is in District 1 for many different reasons than "that is the only place the have a chance." If you would like to find out more, I suggest you attend MN Hockey, Dist 1 and Dist 3 meetings.

iwearmysunglassesatnight · Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:15 pm

[quote="SLP/SW Coach"]

I, personally, am no longer affiliated with Mpls Park Hockey, and yes I assume that I am that PWA Coach who you call a wack job, nice choice of words. "Got rid of me?" I'm pretty sure that is not the way it went down. I spent 5 years coaching in SLP (Mpls Park) before I moved and began coaching somewhere else. I'm pretty sure I hold the respect of the vast majority of those I have meet both on and off the ice. (Including those involved at Johnson (am I right, JohnsonPres?), Como (Bantam Coaches), Irondale (Previous and Current Coaches), Washburn, Richfield, Highland as well as those involved in Dist 3, Dist 6, Dist 8, Dist 10 teams, where I still talk to and have scrimmage games against them yearly.)

so where you coaching now?

Judgeandjury · Post by **Judgeandjury** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:57 pm

What associations have the worst parents in each section?

iwearmysunglassesatnight · Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:33 pm

[quote="Judgeandjury"]What associations have the worst parents in each section?[/quote]

Which ones? Minnesota Made Choice Squirt or Mite League?

Judgeandjury · Post by **Judgeandjury** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:44 pm

iwearmysunglassesatnight wrote:
Judgeandjury wrote:What associations have the worst parents in each section?
Which ones? Minnesota Made Choice Squirt or Mite League?

I'm sorry! You must have misunderstood. I meant what Districts have the worst parents?

Are the parents at minnesota made bad? Is your son a mite or squirt?

goinbardown · Post by **goinbardown** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:41 pm

I love mite parents who have there first hockey kid because they think every moment is critical.

If your kid was meant to play in the NHL he's going to eventually make it.

I personally find other parents incredibly entertaining!!

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