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Doglover
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Post by Doglover »

I'm with tenoverpar - I think that's the most pathetic post I've ever read on this board and the competition has been tough. First time Squirt parents need perspective. Wow!

Sorry EP lost Fred! Maybe if Edina had balanced their two A teams we would've seen more competitive games. I guess it's all about winning.
gilmour
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Post by gilmour »

Per the Edina Tournament website, the correct score of the Edina Green vs. Eden Prairie game was 6 to 4 with Edina Green winning...not 5 to 0 or 5 to 1 per the previous posts.

Mankato 10 vs. Lakeville North 5 is accurate.
gilmour
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Post by gilmour »

Doglover wrote:I'm with tenoverpar - I think that's the most pathetic post I've ever read on this board and the competition has been tough. First time Squirt parents need perspective. Wow!

Sorry EP lost Fred! Maybe if Edina had balanced their two A teams we would've seen more competitive games. I guess it's all about winning.
I agree - way too much emotion.

But,

what are the facts of the situation? did these two teams manipulate the outcome or not?

Also, why can't Edina have a top A team and a lower A team? Mankato only has 10 kids on their roster and wouldn't that say something about "it's all about winning"? - if Edina is going to be critiqued for having an upper and lower A team than, in my opinion, teams that have enough kids in their association to put 15 kids on the roster and chose not to are worse than Edina's decision to go with an upper and lower.
Messier
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Post by Messier »

I was at the game EP vs Edina. Edina won 5-1 not 6-4 like the website says. Good game all goal scored on shorthanded or on the power play. Edina looks good but beatable, EP is not as deep as last years team, but has alot of young talent. Game was 2-1 and EP player got called for checking from behind and received a 10 minute misconduct, that took away one of their top first year players and overall top players. No excuses from me on EP, Edina is a good team. Fun tourny to watch some big match ups coming in a couple of weeks at Bloomington.
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Post by FREDFLINTSTONE »

I'm sorry that EP lost also, but I like it that Edina doesn't balance the two A teams. The game was close, EP gave up 4 short handed, EP lost one of their top players for a check from behind for 12 minutes. Future games should be much closer.
guitarhero
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Post by guitarhero »

Squirt A final results are as follows:

Edina wins championship game beating Mankato 9-0.

Lakeville North wins third place game beating Eden Prairie 5-3.

1. Edina
2. Mankato
3. Lakeville North
4. Eden Prairie
Doglover
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Post by Doglover »

Congrats to Edina. Sounds like a tough win!
Guess the semi final game with EP may have been the real Championship!
Kind of shoots the arguments that they set it up for them to win their own tournament by grouping themselves potentially with EP.
Good weekend of hockey!
TGO99
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Post by TGO99 »

talk about class how about the lakeville north team coming on the ice and congratulating both the edina champions and the runners up from mankato
GetSmart99
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Re: Lakeville - Mankato - GET REAL!!!!!!!!

Post by GetSmart99 »

weekend@bernies wrote:Wow Lakeville takes the top seed, BIG DEAL - lets see to do this they had to take a timeout with 1 minute in change left in the game vs. Mankato when they had a 4 - 1 lead. During the timeout the Lakeville coach leans over the glass to speak with the Mankato coach, hmm wonder what happens next. Play resumes Lakeville gets a clean 2 on 1 break - no shot or pass taken by the Lakeville skater they dumped the puck in the corner then Mankato picks up the puck skates untouched all the way down the ice and scores. Lakeville wins 4 - 2 insuring they are the number one seed and Mankato is the Wild Card, now Lakeville gets to play Mankato again rather than play a team they know they can't beat!!!

Too bad Elk River and Edina didn't conspire and play for a tie putting both of them in the next round, rather Elk River actually pulled their goalie trying to win the game not CARING ABOUT THE GOAL DIFFERENTIAL TIE BREAKER - THEY WANTED TO EARN IT!!

Lakeville coaches you showed NO CLASS!!!! YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID, GOOD LUCK WITH Mankato I sure hope you can beat them because you won’t beat Edina or EP!!!
Whether or not the integrity of the tournament was compromised may never be known. The bottom line is that Elk River played three great games but needed to beat (or tie) Edina to advance. Played Edina as well as anyone and had chances to win, but in the end couldn't earn a spot in the Championship Round.

"Weekend" - Just curious as to your choice of user name and topic for your post. Trying to tie yourself to ER or Bernie or both? Because anyone with an ounce of knowledge about either program would be naive to expect help from another team. Thanks for the rant, but get off our side.
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Re: Lakeville - Mankato - GET REAL!!!!!!!!

Post by iwearmysunglassesatnight »

[quote="GetSmart99"][quote="weekend@bernies"]Wow Lakeville takes the top seed, BIG DEAL - lets see to do this they had to take a timeout with 1 minute in change left in the game vs. Mankato when they had a 4 - 1 lead. During the timeout the Lakeville coach leans over the glass to speak with the Mankato coach, hmm wonder what happens next. Play resumes Lakeville gets a clean 2 on 1 break - no shot or pass taken by the Lakeville skater they dumped the puck in the corner then Mankato picks up the puck skates untouched all the way down the ice and scores. Lakeville wins 4 - 2 insuring they are the number one seed and Mankato is the Wild Card, now Lakeville gets to play Mankato again rather than play a team they know they can't beat!!!

Too bad Elk River and Edina didn't conspire and play for a tie putting both of them in the next round, rather Elk River actually pulled their goalie trying to win the game not CARING ABOUT THE GOAL DIFFERENTIAL TIE BREAKER - THEY WANTED TO EARN IT!!

Lakeville coaches you showed NO CLASS!!!! YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID, GOOD LUCK WITH Mankato I sure hope you can beat them because you won’t beat Edina or EP!!![/quote]
Whether or not the integrity of the tournament was compromised may never be known. The bottom line is that Elk River played three great games but needed to beat (or tie) Edina to advance. Played Edina as well as anyone and had chances to win, but in the end couldn't earn a spot in the Championship Round.

"Weekend" - Just curious as to your choice of user name and topic for your post. Trying to tie yourself to ER or Bernie or both? Because anyone with an ounce of knowledge about either program would be naive to expect help from another team. Thanks for the rant, but get off our side.[/quote]

you tell em Michaelis, proud of ya brotha
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nbrekke
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Coaches Thoughts

Post by nbrekke »

Good Morning everyone my name is Nate Brekke and i am the Mankato squirt A coach. I have never been on this site before and i was floored when the first post i read ever is someone making a claim that me and my youth hockey team conspired with another youth hockey team to advance in a youth hockey tourney. if this is how this site works then this will be my last time here. when i was told about this site i thought it was a place to go to share the accomplishments of our Minnesota youth hockey players, i was wrong!!!!

My team worked there butts off to get to where they were in the Edina Tourney and i could not be more proud of them. i think everyone should be proud of all the kids effort in this tourney, it was great squirt hockey.

Also, Thanks to the Edina Assocation for putting on a first class tourney!!!

Thanks,

Nate Brekke
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Post by mnhkylvr »

I happened to watch both of the Mankato v Lakeville games. Let me first clarify that I am a parent of neither team. When I watched the first game it was clear that the Mankato team was very disciplined and well coached. They kept their shift lengths managable and played very disciplined positioning. The goalie was outstanding.

When I intially saw their roster size it was concerning due to potential fatigue but they were going even harder in their second match up of the day. (Would love some insight into your conditioning program Coach Brekke! :D ) It would have been the icing on the cake (pardon the pun) to see them beat Edina in the ship - but that Edina team is just too darn good.

It was fun to see such heart in the Mankato players and to watch them go as far as they did.
puckfan
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Post by puckfan »

I happened to watch both of the Mankato v Lakeville games. Let me first clarify that I am a parent of neither team
I am interested in somebody either confirming or denying what happened with the 2nd Mankato goal.........anybody?
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Post by guitarhero »

Nate,

Thank you for coming on this site and defending both Mankato and Lakeville coaches.

As a parent of one of the players, I was appalled by the accusation. I can't imagine what goes through a person's head when they are posting such nonsense about other human beings.

I guess some people are just poor losers.

The tournamet was a lot of fun as it should be. Congrats on your second place finish. You have a very good team.

BTW..."Weekend," Lakeville wins third beating Eden Prairie 5-3. "OPEN MOUTH INSERT KEYBOARD!"

How embarrassing for you after "ripping" on a bunch of nine, ten, and eleven year olds in regards to them not having a chance against Edina or EP. These children not only won third place, but took it upon themselves to personally congratulate the Edina and Mankato players after the championship game.

Perhaps you could learn a little something about sportsmanship and how to treat others through the actions of these children.
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Post by puckfan »

Guitarhero/nbrekke
Please let us know what happened in the game in question. Set the record straight, I hope that weekend is full of hot air in his description.
nbrekke
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Post by nbrekke »

what happened in the game is Lakeville out worked mankato the whole game. at the end of the game mankato got a great individual effort from #11 and he put the puck behind the lakeville goalie for the second time in the game. The game ended 4-2. please do not take anything away from the individual effort on that play by Mankato's #11. as it turns out the second goal was not the deciding factor in the final four.

end of the conversation about any wrong doing by either team or its coaches.

And by the way Mankaot is short some games so if anyone is interested in playing please let me know.

see everyone in Fargo!!!

Thanks

Nate Brekke
Squirt A coach Mankato
guitarhero
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Post by guitarhero »

"Weekend" is full of hot air. A sore loser.

The last minute shot by the Mankato player was nothing more than a great goal.

It did not change the outcome of the championship round at all.

Both teams were in regardless.

Lakeville dominated the game and deserved to win.

Mankato dominated the next game and deserved to win.

End of discussion.

Congrats to all the teams in the tournament. It was a fun weekend.
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Post by mnhkylvr »

I believe it would have taken a 4 goal differential in the Lakeville/Mankato game for Elk River to have made it in as the wildcard rather than Mankato.

I honestly wasn't sure who had called the timeout - I guess I assumed it was Mankato.
cement4life
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Looking for Facts

Post by cement4life »

It appears no one has yet to determine the following:

- Who called the timeout?
- If Lakeville called the timeout, what's the explanation on why did they call it with a 4 - 1 lead?
- Why did Lakeville dump the puck in the corner on a 2 - 1 scoring opportunity rather than take a shot?
- What was the conversation topic with the coaches between the two benches during or after the timeout?

Now that we have heard from the Mankato coach it would be interesting to hear from a Lakeville coach, did or didn't the Lakeville coaches tell their players to not shoot on the goalie and why would you tell them that?

Something very fishy took place at the end of this game???

You gotta love a great hockey conspiracy!!!!
Knowthefacts
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Re: Looking for Facts

Post by Knowthefacts »

cement4life wrote:It appears no one has yet to determine the following:

- Who called the timeout?
- If Lakeville called the timeout, what's the explanation on why did they call it with a 4 - 1 lead?
- Why did Lakeville dump the puck in the corner on a 2 - 1 scoring opportunity rather than take a shot?
- What was the conversation topic with the coaches between the two benches during or after the timeout?

Now that we have heard from the Mankato coach it would be interesting to hear from a Lakeville coach, did or didn't the Lakeville coaches tell their players to not shoot on the goalie and why would you tell them that?

Something very fishy took place at the end of this game???

You gotta love a great hockey conspiracy!!!!
According to the published tournament rules, the goal in question had no impact on who advanced to the championship round. Had the score ended 4 to 1, Mankato would still have advanced.

The conspiracy theory makes for entertaining reading, but I'd say it's time to move on.
cement4life
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Post by cement4life »

Still no clearing of the conspiracy, I don't believe the second goal is in question, its the timeout taken, the 2 on 1 and the tickle-fest between the coaches in the timeout.
Garth
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Post by Garth »

cement4life wrote:Still no clearing of the conspiracy, I don't believe the second goal is in question, its the timeout taken, the 2 on 1 and the tickle-fest between the coaches in the timeout.
OK, I'll bite -- Why would any of that concern you if it has no impact on the tournament?
cement4life
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Post by cement4life »

I have been a player & coach & now a spectator for over 50 years & have never witnessed what I saw the last minute plus in that game. It had an affect on the tournament outcome Lakeville knew if they scored one more goal they would have had to play Edina or ER. They plane an simple told their team to not score, what does that teach a player, instead of scoring lets take the easy route?? Weekend was pretty correct in the statement made on Saturday.
guitarhero
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Post by guitarhero »

Settle down, Grandpa.

Perhaps if Elk River would have scored more goals you wouldn't be so angry. It's not the fault of ANY other team that your team didn't make it.

God, I just despise the "Blame game."

Take responsibility and get over it!
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Post by gohawk4 »

Correct me if I am wrong, but Lakeville was the 1 seed and would play the wildcard. How are you saying they would play the 2 or 3 seed if Mankato didn't score that last goal. Lastly, they beat EP in the 3rd place game so they must have been stupid if they threw the game to avoid playing a team they beat. I know for a fact that no matter what happened they wouldn't have played Edina as they were both undefeated and therefore seeds 1 and 2. Get your facts straight or quit complaining. I don't have any care about the Squirt A teams involved, but it bothers me that people argue untrue situations.
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