South St. Paul Being overlooked?

Theclassicburbs · Post by **Theclassicburbs** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:13 pm

South St. Paul still seems to not get any attention even though they are having a solid year after finishing runner-up in their section last year to St. Thomas. Cowtown deserves credit after beating up on Mahtomedi, and finishing second in a Shootout to Woodbury in the Premier Tournament. They have somehow been neglected from the ranking systems as Mahtomedi is still in the top ten teams for A. They have a great team this year with two Freshman who are in top scorers in the Metro area, along with a great defenseman in Zach Palmquist and a great goaltender in Adam Wilcox. Is there any comments?

slapstkhound · Post by **slapstkhound** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:35 pm

Theclassicburbs wrote:South St. Paul still seems to not get any attention even though they are having a solid year after finishing runner-up in their section last year to St. Thomas. Cowtown deserves credit after beating up on Mahtomedi, and finishing second in a Shootout to Woodbury in the Premier Tournament. They have somehow been neglected from the ranking systems as Mahtomedi is still in the top ten teams for A. They have a great team this year with two Freshman who are in top scorers in the Metro area, along with a great defenseman in Zach Palmquist and a great goaltender in Adam Wilcox. Is there any comments?

If you're not in the Lake Conference or an overhyped private school, you'll get no respect from the rankings. EP hasn't really played any quality teams, but they're ranked 3rd with a lesser record than someothers. B'ville with a losing record in the top 20....really??? SSP is a tough solid team and given the way STA is playing SHOULD take them in sections. Marshallmedi (Mahtomedi) will choke again, given the tempaments of the spolied little rich boys who play for them. Go Packers!!!

conditioningsucks · Post by **conditioningsucks** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:18 pm

Guys,

MNHockeyrankings.com is much better than relying on Let's Play Hockey or any other source. It mathmatically looks at each teams results and then 'handicaps' the teams based on difficulty of schedule as well as goal differentials.

Not perfect, but much better than the 'political' private back room at Let's Play Hockey. Sorry to say that SSP is currently #31 at Mnhockeyrankings.

Rossbury21 · Post by **Rossbury21** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:11 am

Thank you, finally someone else gives South St. Paul credit. And who cares if they are rated 31 on one Website, this isn't the BCS, we have a playoff to decide final rankings.

DubCHAGuy · Post by **DubCHAGuy** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:37 am

They are overlooked because they play in the same section as STA and same conference as STA and Hill.

Oddly enough, SSP hurt their chances by moving DOWN to class A in 2004. They have made just one A tourney (2004). That year, Tartan won 2AA and I believe SSP beat them pretty bad that year. Now, they'd be in with 3AA where Woodbury has won the last 2 years and is probably the favorite again. Their chances are probably just as good there as they are going through Totino, Mahtomedi, and STA.

That said, if Wilcox stays on his game this year they will win a lot more games.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:49 am

I think Vanelli thinks pretty highly of SSP.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:58 am

conditioningsucks wrote:Guys,

MNHockeyrankings.com is much better than relying on Let's Play Hockey or any other source. It mathmatically looks at each teams results and then 'handicaps' the teams based on difficulty of schedule as well as goal differentials.

Not perfect, but much better than the 'political' private back room at Let's Play Hockey. Sorry to say that SSP is currently #31 at Mnhockeyrankings.

#11 in single A.

oldguy39 · Post by **oldguy39** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:58 pm

YOU LOST TO PARK......

Rossbury21 · Post by **Rossbury21** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:27 pm

oldguy39 wrote:YOU LOST TO PARK......

Everyone has a bad game, they also beat Hopkins and Anoka easily, who were hyped earlier.

State-of-Hockey · Post by **State-of-Hockey** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:34 pm

South St. Paul is a solid team and they have been playing very well as of late. After wins over Hopkins and Anoka and essentially a tie against #11AA Woodbury...they deserve to be in the top ten teams for A, but as does Mahtomedi who has wins over #3A Breck, #12A Orono, #12AA Maple Grove. Both these teams have one goal losses to Hill-Murray, and should be exciting to watch in section 4A

wildhockey12 · Post by **wildhockey12** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:48 pm

being overlooked is better then being over rated like mahtomedi who already lost to ssp once this season and in my opinion have no chance of beating them.

pucknutz · Post by **pucknutz** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:08 pm

Rossbury21 wrote:
oldguy39 wrote:YOU LOST TO PARK......
Everyone has a bad game, they also beat Hopkins and Anoka easily, who were hyped earlier.

Lost to Tartan at home 5-2

johnnyquest · Post by **johnnyquest** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:36 pm

lost to tartan 5-2 - ouch !
on the upside . . . . . . you will not only continue to be over-looked, but now you are also over-rated.

wildhockey12 · Post by **wildhockey12** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:31 pm

overlooked to over rated not sure how that works but your right that was the wrost tartan team i seen in a few years ssp was flat and penalties seem to pick them apart pretty big choke ugly game to watch too. Now ssp will probaly tie tartan at thrid in the conference because im willing to bet they give them a beat down next time sorry tartan you guys are good but you got lucy as hell and you know it so dont be tasking.

thorhockey · Post by **thorhockey** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:56 pm

You must be the kid that gave your own goalie (Wilcox) the sieve chant.
Other than parts of the first period Tartan dominated. Your two goals were tipped in off defensive sticks. Rather be "lucy" than a bunch of "Sally's"

wildhockey12 · Post by **wildhockey12** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:59 am

k one goal was tiped. I assume you are on the team because no one else would talk about tartan and you know you had at last two weak goals, and I dont care if wilcox sucked it up I would not call him a sieve he was probably just tried because you guys had 9 power plays! :wink:

State-of-Hockey · Post by **State-of-Hockey** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:50 pm

wildhockey12
PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:59 am Post subject:
k one goal was tiped. I assume you are on the team because no one else would talk about tartan and you know you had at last two weak goals, and I dont care if wilcox sucked it up I would not call him a sieve he was probably just tried because you guys had 9 power plays!

maybe we could understand what you were saying if you learned how to talk.

hockeyroyals · Post by **hockeyroyals** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:33 pm

So your telling me that that was the worst Tartan team you have seen? didnt they just tie Hill Murray buddy? I think they did. Everyone is gonna lose games its natural. One loss doesnt decide the whole season...

State-of-Hockey · Post by **State-of-Hockey** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:22 pm

they tied a hill murray team who is now missing 4 of their top players

hockeyroyals · Post by **hockeyroyals** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:57 pm

It still takes a decent team to beat that Hill murray team...i dont care you lost four guys. SSP is not getting the respect they should be getting. Thats all im saying

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:10 pm

They didn't beat Hill Murray...they lost. How is South St Paul not getting respect due? Most people respect them for all they have accomplish. Not thinking they are better than they are isn't disrespect.

Theclassicburbs · Post by **Theclassicburbs** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:35 pm

Then explain how mahtomedi is ranked higher and they haven't beaten South St. Paul in almost two years?

Rossbury21 · Post by **Rossbury21** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:47 pm

Tied STA today buddy, maybe they are being over looked.

Hockeygod54 · Post by **Hockeygod54** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:25 am

ssp is being overlooked...but thats not a bad thing. rankings dont mean a whole lot until the final ones at the end of the year

bender0905 · Post by **bender0905** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:35 am

Theclassicburbs wrote:Then explain how mahtomedi is ranked higher and they haven't beaten South St. Paul in almost two years?

I would have to agree, it's not that Mahtomedi is just ranked above them but they are continually ranked 4 or 5 spots ahead of SSP. I was fortunate to catch the SSP v.s STA game today and it was fun to watch. SSP was out their top line center, Ryan Miller, yet they still were able to get more chances than STA including two cross bar shots and hitting the pipe late in the game. Secondly, whoever was running that scoreboard and was keeping track of the shots was way off...the score board read something like STA 41 SSP 13...but it was more STA 32 SSP 22-25. Bottom line, SSP outplayed the #1 projected class A private school...maybe they should do some more recruiting...go public schools!!!!

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