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TheCaptain
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davey wrote:
TheCaptain wrote:
davey wrote: Agreed, college or junior coaches should be the evaluators. They have the eye for the talent although with all of the early verbals that are happening now, that could open up a whole new can of worms although those kids have already been identified as being worthy of advancing to the National camp. No problems with that at all. No matter what you do, there will always be some flaws in it. What I love watching is certain Dads who have there nose up every scout, coach and even agents a--. They definately know how to play the system and for some, it works in their kids favor.
That is the funniest thing I have ever heard you say....Anyone who knows you would have to say you are the biggest a-- kiss in southern MN. Your boys can play hockey but for some reason you still choose to try to pad their way. I am sorry they didn't make it, I think Tyler would have done great.
Wow Captain, since you are calling me out, please elaborate on the above post. If you mean teaching kids that nothing is given to you and you have to work hard to earn it is padding their way. then so be it. But by the sound of your post, you make it sound like I somehow "buy" their way. Believe me, they have had their share of disappointments, so I guess your theory of me "padding" there way goes by the wayside. And if you "know me so well" private message me and let me know who you are and we can go from there
I guess I don't see where you ever mentioned anyone "buying" their way in your first post and I certainly wasn't referring to that. I guess to spell it out for you (even though you spelled it for yourself in your first post) What I love watching is certain Dads who have there nose up every scout, coach and even agents a--. you're one of those dads down here....you have been for the past 10 years I have know you....No hostility, I just thought it was funny that you had posted that.
Like I said in my post. I'd like to see your boys excel too.
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Post by davey »

TheCaptain wrote:
davey wrote:
TheCaptain wrote: That is the funniest thing I have ever heard you say....Anyone who knows you would have to say you are the biggest a-- kiss in southern MN. Your boys can play hockey but for some reason you still choose to try to pad their way. I am sorry they didn't make it, I think Tyler would have done great.
Wow Captain, since you are calling me out, please elaborate on the above post. If you mean teaching kids that nothing is given to you and you have to work hard to earn it is padding their way. then so be it. But by the sound of your post, you make it sound like I somehow "buy" their way. Believe me, they have had their share of disappointments, so I guess your theory of me "padding" there way goes by the wayside. And if you "know me so well" private message me and let me know who you are and we can go from there
I guess I don't see where you ever mentioned anyone "buying" their way in your first post and I certainly wasn't referring to that. I guess to spell it out for you (even though you spelled it for yourself in your first post) What I love watching is certain Dads who have there nose up every scout, coach and even agents a--. you're one of those dads down here....you have been for the past 10 years I have know you....No hostility, I just thought it was funny that you had posted that.
Like I said in my post. I'd like to see your boys excel too.
I guess I have to respect your opinion since you have known me for 10 years. thanks for wishing my boys well. Very thoughtful
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Post by puck19 »

i THINK i READ SOMEWHERE IN THIS FORUM PEOPLE COMPLAINING THAT TYLER PITLICK DID NOT MAKE THE FINAL CUT FOR SELECT 17, CHECKING IN THE USA HOCKEY WEBSITE HE IS LISTED AS A PLAYER ON ONE OF THE TEAMS FOR THE SELECT 17 NEXT WEEK, SO HE MUST OF MADE SOMETHING.
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puck19 wrote:i THINK i READ SOMEWHERE IN THIS FORUM PEOPLE COMPLAINING THAT TYLER PITLICK DID NOT MAKE THE FINAL CUT FOR SELECT 17, CHECKING IN THE USA HOCKEY WEBSITE HE IS LISTED AS A PLAYER ON ONE OF THE TEAMS FOR THE SELECT 17 NEXT WEEK, SO HE MUST OF MADE SOMETHING.
Wow you're right, Tyler is on the black team.
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Post by breakout »

nipe87 wrote:
puck19 wrote:i THINK i READ SOMEWHERE IN THIS FORUM PEOPLE COMPLAINING THAT TYLER PITLICK DID NOT MAKE THE FINAL CUT FOR SELECT 17, CHECKING IN THE USA HOCKEY WEBSITE HE IS LISTED AS A PLAYER ON ONE OF THE TEAMS FOR THE SELECT 17 NEXT WEEK, SO HE MUST OF MADE SOMETHING.
Wow you're right, Tyler is on the black team.
He may have been chosen as an alternate if another player was injured. I don't believe he was on the original list.
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National teams overrated

Post by gopherhockey1234 »

You guys put way to much on these camps I can tell you that things change by the minute. If you look at this years NHL draft, there were only 7 kids drafted out Minnesota High School Hockey. Derek Stepan from Hastings never made any of these National teams and was the second American forward taking in the NHL draft, Corey Feinage never made these teams Drafted 81st overall. Drew Lablanc, Keegan Flahrety Jordy Murray from Shattuck has made them all,guess what these kids never got drafted. It means nothing. There are stories like these every year.
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Re: National teams overrated

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gopherhockey1234 wrote:You guys put way to much on these camps I can tell you that things change by the minute. If you look at this years NHL draft, there were only 7 kids drafted out Minnesota High School Hockey. Derek Stepan from Hastings never made any of these National teams and was the second American forward taking in the NHL draft, Corey Feinage never made these teams Drafted 81st overall. Drew Lablanc, Keegan Flahrety Jordy Murray from Shattuck has made them all,guess what these kids never got drafted. It means nothing. There are stories like these every year.
Actually Fienhage skated at both the Select 15 and 17 national festivals. Stepan was at last summer's Select 17 national festival. Not sure about the two years before. LeBlanc only made the national festival as a 17.
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Re: National teams overrated

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gopherhockey1234 wrote:You guys put way to much on these camps I can tell you that things change by the minute. If you look at this years NHL draft, there were only 7 kids drafted out Minnesota High School Hockey. Derek Stepan from Hastings never made any of these National teams and was the second American forward taking in the NHL draft, Corey Feinage never made these teams Drafted 81st overall. Drew Lablanc, Keegan Flahrety Jordy Murray from Shattuck has made them all,guess what these kids never got drafted. It means nothing. There are stories like these every year.
Before you make statements like this...you probably should get your facts straight:

1) Gardiner - 1st round draft pick - once he switched from forward to D after his junior year in HS...made the Select 17 National Festival and played for Team USA in a U18 International Tournament.

2) Ness - 2nd round draft pick....Made the Select 15, 16 & 17 National Festival and played for Team USA in a U17 and a U18 International Tournament...along with joining up with the NTDP for some games and an International tounament.

3) Stepan - 2nd round draft pick - Made the Select 16 & 17 National Festival and played for Team USA in a U18 International Tournament.

4) Fienhage - Made the Select 15 & 17 National Festival.

5) Drew Olson - Made the Select 16 & 17 National Festival and played for Team USA in a U17 International Tournament.

6) Gleason - Made the Select 15, 16 & 17 National Festival and played for Team USA in a U17 International Tournament.

7) Jokinen - He was the only one of the seven drafted who never made a Select National Festival Team...but played very well in the Nike Bauer Invitational Tounament which concluded the Elite League season in the fall of 2007.
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Re: National teams overrated

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hockey59 wrote:
gopherhockey1234 wrote:You guys put way to much on these camps I can tell you that things change by the minute. If you look at this years NHL draft, there were only 7 kids drafted out Minnesota High School Hockey. Derek Stepan from Hastings never made any of these National teams and was the second American forward taking in the NHL draft, Corey Feinage never made these teams Drafted 81st overall. Drew Lablanc, Keegan Flahrety Jordy Murray from Shattuck has made them all,guess what these kids never got drafted. It means nothing. There are stories like these every year.
Before you make statements like this...you probably should get your facts straight:

1) Gardiner - 1st round draft pick - once he switched from forward to D after his junior year in HS...made the Select 17 National Festival and played for Team USA in a U18 International Tournament.

2) Ness - 2nd round draft pick....Made the Select 15, 16 & 17 National Festival and played for Team USA in a U17 and a U18 International Tournament...along with joining up with the NTDP for some games and an International tounament.

3) Stepan - 2nd round draft pick - Made the Select 16 & 17 National Festival and played for Team USA in a U18 International Tournament.

4) Fienhage - Made the Select 15 & 17 National Festival.

5) Drew Olson - Made the Select 16 & 17 National Festival and played for Team USA in a U17 International Tournament.

6) Gleason - Made the Select 15, 16 & 17 National Festival and played for Team USA in a U17 International Tournament.

7) Jokinen - He was the only one of the seven drafted who never made a Select National Festival Team...but played very well in the Nike Bauer Invitational Tounament which concluded the Elite League season in the fall of 2007.

Nicely done
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Select 17

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One last thing...of the 2 goalies, 6 defensemen and 13 forwards who represented MN at the 2007 Select 17 National Festival:

Both goalies, all 6 defensemen and 8 of the 13 forwards are now committed to play hockey at D1 schools. In addition, 3 of the forward alternates are now D1 committed.

Regarding Select teams...do deserving kids get missed...sure...does making these teams guarantee you will play D1...no...but it gets you noticed...just like the Elite League does...much more than playing for most HS teams in the winter.
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Re: Select 17

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hockey59 wrote:One last thing...of the 2 goalies, 6 defensemen and 13 forwards who represented MN at the 2007 Select 17 National Festival:

Both goalies, all 6 defensemen and 8 of the 13 forwards are now committed to play hockey at D1 schools. In addition, 3 of the forward alternates are now D1 committed.

Regarding Select teams...do deserving kids get missed...sure...does making these teams guarantee you will play D1...no...but it gets you noticed...just like the Elite League does...much more than playing for most HS teams in the winter.

Where did Faust go?
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Re: Select 17

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flatontheice wrote:
hockey59 wrote:One last thing...of the 2 goalies, 6 defensemen and 13 forwards who represented MN at the 2007 Select 17 National Festival:

Both goalies, all 6 defensemen and 8 of the 13 forwards are now committed to play hockey at D1 schools. In addition, 3 of the forward alternates are now D1 committed.

Regarding Select teams...do deserving kids get missed...sure...does making these teams guarantee you will play D1...no...but it gets you noticed...just like the Elite League does...much more than playing for most HS teams in the winter.

Where did Faust go?
Who?
hockey nut
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Post by hockey nut »

Gopher hockey are you saying that Stepan and Feinage never made team USA? I am pretty sure neither one did. If that is what you are referring to I think your right. I see that Phil MaCrae was the only Americam forward taking before Stepan, did he make the USA team? And he actullay played in the OHL.
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Post by eastranger19 »

Was checking the USA web-site to see how the MN boys were doing. Just curious as to how MN. can add at least 5 more players to the National list. Rehkamp, Voigt, Pitlick, Spratte, and Bruggeman and maybe some other names not noticed, I did'nt see anybody drop out except maybe Lapic, did'nt notice his name anywhere, how does that work to get them all in? :? I would think if kids from other states decline, they would fill from those states?
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Post by Sioux Fan »

Probably due to their ability to get there on very short notice. I note that they are doing pretty well Bruggy had a shutout today and Tyler Voigt scored the game winner in his first game yesterday.

Way to go boys.

I wish they had plus minus for the kids that would be a good stat to see.
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Post by davey »

Sioux Fan wrote:Probably due to their ability to get there on very short notice. I note that they are doing pretty well Bruggy had a shutout today and Tyler Voigt scored the game winner in his first game yesterday.

Way to go boys.

I wish they had plus minus for the kids that would be a good stat to see.
I know Voigt got a call at 11:00 Weds A.M. and was in St Cloud in time for Weds game after a player was hurt on the green team on Tuesday. He had two goals yesterday also.
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Faust is a Piper

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Flatontheice - Check the Hamline University roster - you'll find that Faust is a Fighting Piper. He and Matt Wanvig (Osseo 2005) were a nice netminding duo as Hamline won their first MIAC championship in 60 years in 2007-08.
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Post by breakout »

Any predictions on which Minnesota kids will make the U.S. Under 18 team that will play in Slovakia in August?
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Post by ponies are us »

I saw a lot of hockey last week and will take a stab at who from MN will make the team heading to Slovakia. Quite frankly, I think it will be similar to those who made it last year, however, not all of them played well and some could argue that they should not go this year.

Budish - looked out of shape, put up numbers and is very high on everyone's list, including mine
Schmidt - I think he has finally recoverd from all of the injuries and played better as the week went along
Leddy - best defensemen in the State as this age group. Very good all week.
Walters - I think he will be included on this team, but he was average at best and did not put up the numbers we are used to seeing. Clearly, this is a case where he is only as good as the players he is playing with and who work to get him the puck

I do not think Birkholz will make this team for several reasons.

Come to think of it, all of these players are Gopher recruits...any ties there.

Blake Thompson was outstanding and should get consideration as should Pitlick.
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Post by Pucknutz69 »

ponies are us wrote:I saw a lot of hockey last week and will take a stab at who from MN will make the team heading to Slovakia. Quite frankly, I think it will be similar to those who made it last year, however, not all of them played well and some could argue that they should not go this year.

Budish - looked out of shape, put up numbers and is very high on everyone's list, including mine
Schmidt - I think he has finally recoverd from all of the injuries and played better as the week went along
Leddy - best defensemen in the State as this age group. Very good all week.
Walters - I think he will be included on this team, but he was average at best and did not put up the numbers we are used to seeing. Clearly, this is a case where he is only as good as the players he is playing with and who work to get him the puck

I do not think Birkholz will make this team for several reasons.

Come to think of it, all of these players are Gopher recruits...any ties there.

Blake Thompson was outstanding and should get consideration as should Pitlick.
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Pucknutz69 wrote:Have seen that before with him don't know if he puts it in coast mode and rests on his reputation or what. It will be evident this year if he stays at STA. Rooney and Sainty helped him a lot.
He is playing in the USHL (Des Moines) full time this year.

I can't say whether he coasted because I wasn't there but he certainly won't be able to coast in the USHL and get away with it. You can do that in HS hockey but not in juniors. He'll have to work hard (and I think he will).
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Post by behonestbenice »

Pucknutz you have had an issue with Walters for ever. Not putting up the numbers What more do you want;he had 4g and 3a for 7pts in 5 games. Same amount of points as last years camp only it was 6 g an 1 a 7 pts and you were ripping him then because you said he never looks to pass. Just as you did the last 2 high school seasons saying he didn't pass,yet he has more assits every year than goals. So I beleive Saintey and Rooney also benefited from his play. I don't think that at every level coaches are going to ask him to play for them because of a reputation. Wait maybe they will because his reputation is that he is a very good all around hockey player.
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Post by breakout »

behonestbenice wrote:Pucknutz you have had an issue with Walters for ever. Not putting up the numbers What more do you want;he had 4g and 3a for 7pts in 5 games. Same amount of points as last years camp only it was 6 g an 1 a 7 pts and you were ripping him then because you said he never looks to pass. Just as you did the last 2 high school seasons saying he didn't pass,yet he has more assits every year than goals. So I beleive Saintey and Rooney also benefited from his play. I don't think that at every level coaches are going to ask him to play for them because of a reputation. Wait maybe they will because his reputation is that he is a very good all around hockey player.
How does someone come up with individual stats and opinions like that? You seem like a defensive Dad.
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Post by behonestbenice »

If you follow gopher hockey and recruits its easy. Plus they are all on USAhocky.com. No different than pucknutz saying he isn't putting up usual numbers. I then go and do a little digging on usa.com and max preps. Its not that hard. Its just I give facts to back up my opinions when ever I write them instead of just randomly making statements about players. Plus look at my posts I never rip any kids like most posts by some people on players. They are all complimentary. Anyways pucknuts and breakout best of luck to your guys in all they do.
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