AA Enrollment

[mohunk]

cessation

Did I write that? The root word is secede, so I really messed it up. Cessation is a variant of cease, right?

Any English major can straighten me out.

Secedetion?!! I have no idea.

secession: formal withdrawal from an organization (as a religious communion or political party or federation).

[O-townClown]

secession: formal withdrawal from an organization (as a religious communion or political party or federation).

Thank you. There is a prominent golf course in South Carolina named Secession because that part wanted to get away from the North when the Union fought the Confederacy.

I don't know why I was having such a stumbling block.

Secession. I'll remember that now. Thanks!

[dangles07]

there are nine, yes nine, lakeville products on sta's hockey team...one can only wonder...there are also four from rosemount

[Dazed&Confused]

School enrollment or numbers do not give any school an advantage.
The schools commitment to that sport or the people in the community and there support play a huge roll. HUGE!! That also can be said for Private Schools The commitment and tradition play a big roll.

[Neutron 14]

School enrollment or numbers do not give any school an advantage.
The schools commitment to that sport or the people in the community and there support play a huge roll. HUGE!! That also can be said for Private Schools The commitment and tradition play a big roll.

YEP!

[Charliedog]

The Town Clown has some valid points.

Larger associations tend to put too much focus on the "A" youth from squirts on up. What they should be doing in developing ALL the kids. This is what the Roseaus and the Warroads do and they have great success because of it. A large association should focus on their top 3 kids (because they will most likely always be at the top) and then put more emphasis on developing the next 30 kids. By sticking with the same group of 15 all the way up, they are simply reducing their future high school pool and I think it hurts them in because they only end up with 2 solid lines.

The privates probably have an advantage here because they get top kids from various associations trying out. If I were a high school coach in an area where a large number of kids left for privates, I would certainly take time to research why the kids were leaving.

[Dazed&Confused]

Charlie dog you are correct! They should be asking that question and right now And the A team thing is also right on. Outstanding

[Govs93]

there are nine, yes nine, lakeville products on sta's hockey team...one can only wonder...there are also four from rosemount

When did they start attending STA (what grade) and where did they go to school prior to enrolling there?

[Dazed&Confused]

I wasnt going here Charlidog BUT [b]I took the hint and left.

[DmanDad1980]

But with these bottom two teams do you add in the enrollments from all the schools they take their kids from. Only number that should be surprising here is the low Roseau number. However their rich tradition can probably explain why they can compete with the schools that have higher enrollment

They have southern manitoba and ontario to pick from

and Ross, Malung, Skime, Wanaska...

Actually more outstanding hockey players have come from those four tiny townships than a majority of the metro's big enrollment schools...

[david1]

O-town.. Population is directly related, Ceteris paribus... It is however not the only variable. Tradition, Community(i.e. parent participation), resources(ice sheets) and money(I will acknowledge this has more weight in the metro).. Would you argue that Edina is lacking in any of these??.. There for, if the sum of these variables is your multiplier and we call it (m)? I would contend that Edina would have the highest (m) in the state.. Say for the sake of argument it is equal to Roseau?s.. Then change in population or (p) is directly related to success or an advantage.. 2232(m)>410(m).. Making Roseau an extraordinary success.. P.S. Edina only has 6 titles
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[keepyourheadup]

LS lost 5 freshman this year to ST. Thomas

[Govs93]

LS lost 5 freshman this year to ST. Thomas

They were fresmen at LS last season, or would have been this season?

[td577]

But with these bottom two teams do you add in the enrollments from all the schools they take their kids from. Only number that should be surprising here is the low Roseau number. However their rich tradition can probably explain why they can compete with the schools that have higher enrollment

They have southern manitoba and ontario to pick from

Before I state how ignorant your statement is, how about you name them. All of the players from Canada who have played for the Rams, please. Heck, I will go even one further and let you add all the kids who didn't grow up in the system, regardless of country. This will be a very interesting list for you, I look forward to your results.

[packerboy]

The nature of the sport makes enrollment numbers less important.

You dont have to have size (it helps but still alot of small players who are good)

You dont need 25 good players with size like in football. 1 or 2 very good players and a half a dozen good players and you contend in hockey.

One standout can make a huge difference.

Football, you gotta have alot of guys.

The math that applies to football, doesnt apply so much to hockey.

Enrollmet is a factor in all sports but the "other stuff' mentioned is way more important in hockey.

BTW, the MSHSL does not know this.

[wishock]

But with these bottom two teams do you add in the enrollments from all the schools they take their kids from. Only number that should be surprising here is the low Roseau number. However their rich tradition can probably explain why they can compete with the schools that have higher enrollment

They have southern manitoba and ontario to pick from

Before I state how ignorant your statement is, how about you name them. All of the players from Canada who have played for the Rams, please. Heck, I will go even one further and let you add all the kids who didn't grow up in the system, regardless of country. This will be a very interesting list for you, I look forward to your results.

I am sure pastrapidsfan was just being sarcastic. Walleyes and pine trees don't play hockey. That's all there is north of the border by Roseau. But if Roseau does well at state there will be some in the crowd saying that the team is loaded with Canadians, based on that statement. Amazing what some will pick up on and accept as gospel.

[Neutron 14]

They have southern manitoba and ontario to pick from

Before I state how ignorant your statement is, how about you name them. All of the players from Canada who have played for the Rams, please. Heck, I will go even one further and let you add all the kids who didn't grow up in the system, regardless of country. This will be a very interesting list for you, I look forward to your results.

I am sure pastrapidsfan was just being sarcastic. Walleyes and pine trees don't play hockey. That's all there is north of the border by Roseau. But if Roseau does well at state there will be some in the crowd saying that the team is loaded with Canadians, based on that statement. Amazing what some will pick up on and accept as gospel.

The Roseau players say Eh and hoser. If it quacks like a duck...

[halla]

That enrollment number for Edina astounds me. When I graduated (from Edina), it was a class of 410. That would put the 9-12 enrollment well under 2000 students.

I wonder: are they currently in an upswing or did I attend during a downswing.

[wishock]

Hoser is reserved for people posting on this "bored".

[eagle4life9]

The five LS kids that went to St. Thomas are freshman right now. One is Jordan Schroeder's brother and he is playing for there varsity team.

To answer the question of where the Lakeville kids went to school before St. Thomas is they all went to one of the then junior highs, now middle schools in Lakeville.

[Govs93]

The five LS kids that went to St. Thomas are freshman right now. One is Jordan Schroeder's brother and he is playing for there varsity team.

To answer the question of where the Lakeville kids went to school before St. Thomas is they all went to one of the then junior highs, now middle schools in Lakeville.

So they went to public middle schools?

Then I agree... that blows.

[karl(east)]

With the "Red Plan" looming here in Duluth and the planned consolidation of 3 public high schools into 2, it'll be interesting to see what happens, assuming the plan gets off the ground. The new Denfeld will be forced into AA, and East will remain there and no longer be an opt-up. But since it's Central that's being split up, I doubt it will have a significant impact, as I doubt there's a single player on Central who could make an impact at East. Even if they combined all 3, as they did recently in girls' hockey, the vast majority of the players would still be from East. That has to do with the rich tradition on the east side, quality coaching, excellent youth programs, and (unfortunately) money.

Also, even with the Carlton-Esko co-op, Cloquet is still below the AA enrollment cutoff.

[Kurdatz]

But if Lakeville didnt split maybe those kids would have stayed. But they probably left because of the coach.

And Lakeville's excuse cant be "well if we didnt split we would be so much better" although thats VERY true its not an excuse. Its better for the whole student body to have two high schools even though the sports programs may struggle a bit but even LS and LN on there own have done fine in many sports. Obviously there are more schools that should split but im not going to name names here. But if splitting is your excuse then why cant Rochester use that excuse, and St Cloud and Duluth and all the other towns that have more than one public high school. Could you imagine what those schools would be like?

This may happen in Duluth, to a point. Denfeld and Central have LONG talked about merging their programs since Centrals numbers for the teams have dwindled lately, although the Hunters latest success may stave that effort off for a few years. If Duluth Central closes, as is slated in a few years (I believe 09 or 10), this will happen to an effect, anyways, with some students aligning at Denfeld, the others at East, and the rest opting for private Duluth Marshall.

At any rate, a semi-combined Duluth hockey team would probably be a formidable team in hockey contention. A totally combined Duluth school (which would more than likely NEVER happen) would be a pretty dominant opponent. But just using the format of numbers isn't really doing the sport iteslf any justice...we've all just talked about the success of Roseau and the Benildes and such...its not always just superior numbers...its the quality of the numbers.

Before Duluth Morgan Park closed (for those of you who remember) they were a pretty formidable team for their size in almost every sport simply because the school was so small that kids were multi-athletic, playing several sports, and that lineage continued until the school closed in the early 80's. The same can be said for small hockey knit communities like Roseau and Warroad, where the community is so small, that they rely on those kids to come out for their programs year after year, that last names simply become legacies.

A lot is also community and family pride...one might be expected to play hockey in Warroad, whereas you might be expected to run cross country for Stillwater, or play football for Champlain Park, etc. Whatever the case, I think a lot can be said for that look at it.

[O-townClown]

That enrollment number for Edina astounds me. When I graduated (from Edina), it was a class of 410. That would put the 9-12 enrollment well under 2000 students.

I wonder: are they currently in an upswing or did I attend during a downswing.

Halla: I've always found the Edina public schools enrollment interesting. With the baby boom the enrollment swelled and there were so many they needed to split into two schools. A decade later it was back to one.

There was a weird 'age wave' and the community wasn't replacing their elementary schoolers. Enrollment declined like you said. At one point my mom was getting less than 10 trick or treaters but today it is back up to 75. (The ritual did fall out of vogue, so it wasn't entirely the result of fewer kids.)

So many Edina graduates are now homeowners with families themselves.

Did you graduate around 1995? 1999?