BIAFP wrote:I'm referring to McDonaugh(sp) winning it last year. Chill Bader I know you get aaallllllll riled up whenever someone starts mentioning private schools.power92 wrote: It's not a perfect system, but its all we have right now. I'm just glad the private school curse was finally lifted.
Really, where are they listed in this years finalists?
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....Can't thank you enough for the time.
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Lee locked the thread on Ness and put this link up, so I'll post my opinion in here.
The point was brought up about him being a 3rd year player, so he shouldn't get it because he is combining years and not a "senior" in one's eyes. A response was given that he is a senior as he's completing his high school requirements and going to college next year. (I'm surprised Roseau allows students to do this) To those who are complaining, does that make a 4 year college degree earned in 3 less deserving? Most would argue the opposite. If he is indeed the best player, personally I would say the feat he has accomplished makes him more deserving of the award.
Personally, I would say a AA defenseman who can put up numbers topping all but a handful of forwards in the state who has also gotten a 4 year high school diploma in 3 years is more than deserving of the Mr. Hockey title. Furthermore, to counter the statement made about the message this would be sending by the MSHSL, in my opinion, it would be sending the message that school, and not sports, should be the priority.
The point was brought up about him being a 3rd year player, so he shouldn't get it because he is combining years and not a "senior" in one's eyes. A response was given that he is a senior as he's completing his high school requirements and going to college next year. (I'm surprised Roseau allows students to do this) To those who are complaining, does that make a 4 year college degree earned in 3 less deserving? Most would argue the opposite. If he is indeed the best player, personally I would say the feat he has accomplished makes him more deserving of the award.
Personally, I would say a AA defenseman who can put up numbers topping all but a handful of forwards in the state who has also gotten a 4 year high school diploma in 3 years is more than deserving of the Mr. Hockey title. Furthermore, to counter the statement made about the message this would be sending by the MSHSL, in my opinion, it would be sending the message that school, and not sports, should be the priority.
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Might wanna ask the scouts who picked the top 10....hockeyfan_atic wrote:kind of surprising the leading scorer for the 2007-08 season in Ricky Litchfield is left off the list.. even thought mankato west plays a weak schedule scoring 89 points is still quite an accomplishment
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Me too - and it seemed like such a nice thread...HShockeywatcher wrote:Lee locked the thread on Ness and put this link up, so I'll post my opinion in here.
Regarding the junior/senior status of Mr. Ness, I think we can all agree that his road to consideration for Mr. Hockey has been non-traditional. As we don’t have a lot of experience with it, some will say “so be it, good for him” and others will look at it skeptically.
Some will question if this could possibly set a harmful precedent that others will feel compelled to follow. Is there the potential for external forces to lean on a kid and force him to do more than he chooses for himself? There are still some whack job parents out there and it’s not a unrealistic stretch to imagine a college coach unscrupulously pushing to get some talent on his squad a year earlier.
Some of the questions raised here on the bored are not necessarily about Mr. Ness’s particularized circumstances and or hockey abilities. Therefore you can’t dismiss this discussion as lack of sportsmanship or sour grapes. Instead, it is an honest questioning of what it could mean to the ever changing face of youth/H.S. hockey in Minnesota if he is so publicly and officially recognized with the highest award provided to a boy’s high school hockey player. We’re already seeing larger numbers of kid’s leave their traditional schools to jump for junior hockey programs in what would otherwise be their senior year. This has that same feel except, assuming Mr. Ness were to win, it would have a more “sanctioned” and “process approved” element to it.
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as good as gardiner can be, he can also be that bad. against the loss to hopkins, he was on the ice for 3 of the 4 goals hopkins scored. he got beat several times during their edina loss -- only bunomo playing great kept that game close. i think scouts see the potential in gardiner (which i think could be huge) but he's not great now. he's not mr. hockey either.
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I think Zach Lerhke is the best!!! he is very good and not very many people know about him but he is quick and tiny and very good! He is very good at antcipating plays.
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Are you saying this is a bad message to be sending? I think this is the message they should be sending to the students.HShockeywatcher wrote: Furthermore, to counter the statement made about the message this would be sending by the MSHSL, in my opinion, it would be sending the message that school, and not sports, should be the priority.
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