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Post by gruntcall »

Where_is_the_bridge? wrote:I think the top 3 are pretty obvious, but the fourth seed is up in the air, West, Cathedral and LF all could make arguments, but i'd have to give it to west because they have not had a game this year that you could look down on, a loss to lourdes and AL by 1. Not to mention no one knew who would come out of this section there were 5 teams that had a shot.
west is a #1 seed no doubt. we'll see where they put em though. goaltending is key, and west has one of the best in the state. although he looked rattled a bit early last night, he stood his ground and took his team to the X. doesn't matter, have to win three games to win it all, seedings are good but when you don't have a for sure lock for the title, anything can happen. this field should be fun to watch, with only one "weak" section. don't be suprised if someone takes them (3a) lightly too. these are kids, now kids with a huge confidence boost, going to state. any team with a great goaltending streak could take home the gold.

and it is clearly obvouis that WEST has played nobody to this point, maybe they will FINALLY get a game the NAY-SAYERS will give them a little credit for winning. :roll:
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Post by Let-the-KIDS-play »

Seedings seem to mostly go the way of records against each other...So here is my guess... :lol:

1. STA --- Just a darn good team
2. Marshmellow--- Beat every one else
3. Warroad --- Same as above
4. St. Cloud Cath. --- Can beat any of the above (This is my Darkhorse champ) Will discuss more after the true seeding.
These 4 Could make for a Great Friday Morning!

And the rest in Alphabetical order.....
Blake--- Always tough in March
Little Falls--- One Two Barbecue
Mank. West--- Great record.............?
New Ulm or Litch.--- Goals for..0 Goals agst. 15-20 (in the show)

If SSP wins :shock: Just move everybody up 1 spot and Blake is 4

Notice how I said my GUESS!!!
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Post by SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 »

Let-the-KIDS-play wrote:Seedings seem to mostly go the way of records against each other...So here is my guess... :lol:

1. STA --- Just a darn good team
2. Marshmellow--- Beat every one else
3. Warroad --- Same as above
4. St. Cloud Cath. --- Can beat any of the above (This is my Darkhorse champ) Will discuss more after the true seeding.
These 4 Could make for a Great Friday Morning!

And the rest in Alphabetical order.....
Blake--- Always tough in March
Little Falls--- One Two Barbecue
Mank. West--- Great record.............?
New Ulm or Litch.--- Goals for..0 Goals agst. 15-20 (in the show)

If SSP wins :shock: Just move everybody up 1 spot and Blake is 4

Notice how I said my GUESS!!!
I want everybody to keep disregarding LF, keep disrespecting, don't take them serious. Please please please don't take them serious.

It will make winning that much more sweet.
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Post by George Blanda »

SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:I want everybody to keep disregarding LF, keep disrespecting, don't take them serious. Please please please don't take them serious.

It will make winning that much more sweet.
And by that you really mean that you're taking it personally when people say that they don't think LF is good.

LF is good. No doubt about it. I don't see them going 2 and out. But I also don't see them getting a top four seed, although it is a possibility.
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Post by SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 »

George Blanda wrote:
SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:I want everybody to keep disregarding LF, keep disrespecting, don't take them serious. Please please please don't take them serious.

It will make winning that much more sweet.
And by that you really mean that you're taking it personally when people say that they don't think LF is good.

LF is good. No doubt about it. I don't see them going 2 and out. But I also don't see them getting a top four seed, although it is a possibility.
I am not taking it personally, I just know that most people outside of central Mn don't think much of LF and we probably won't get a seed at state. I just want them to go down their and prove the naysayers wrong. That is all.
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Post by bugsysback »

Let-the-KIDS-play wrote:Seedings seem to mostly go the way of records against each other...So here is my guess... :lol:

1. STA --- Just a darn good team
2. Marshmellow--- Beat every one else
3. Warroad --- Same as above
4. St. Cloud Cath. --- Can beat any of the above (This is my Darkhorse champ) Will discuss more after the true seeding.
These 4 Could make for a Great Friday Morning!

And the rest in Alphabetical order.....
Blake--- Always tough in March
Little Falls--- One Two Barbecue
Mank. West--- Great record.............?
New Ulm or Litch.--- Goals for..0 Goals agst. 15-20 (in the show)

If SSP wins :shock: Just move everybody up 1 spot and Blake is 4

Notice how I said my GUESS!!!
No way Blake gets a top 4 if STA loses
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Post by HasNoMoves »

I think the top 3 seeds are obvious in STA, Marshall, and Warroad...not too sure about the order. Cathedral definately deserves the #4 seed, and will get it. They also beat LF in a head to head matchup so LF cannot make a case for the 4 seed over Cathedral in my opinion. Plus Cathedral has played tougher competition. Their losses have come to Warroad, Marshall, and AA St. Cloud Tech. The Warroad and Marshall games were tight contests score-wise..not sure about shots and how the game played out etc. LF is a decent team, but not a top 4 seed. Mankato West is from the south and very undeserving as southern teams usually are...sorry, no offense..but its dissapointing in class A that one section is all southern
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Post by flatontheice »

HasNoMoves wrote:I think the top 3 seeds are obvious in STA, Marshall, and Warroad...not too sure about the order. Cathedral definately deserves the #4 seed, and will get it. They also beat LF in a head to head matchup so LF cannot make a case for the 4 seed over Cathedral in my opinion. Plus Cathedral has played tougher competition. Their losses have come to Warroad, Marshall, and AA St. Cloud Tech. The Warroad and Marshall games were tight contests score-wise..not sure about shots and how the game played out etc. LF is a decent team, but not a top 4 seed. Mankato West is from the south and very undeserving as southern teams usually are...sorry, no offense..but its dissapointing in class A that one section is all southern
I think only the top two are obvious. Here are the schedule rankings for the teams that are in and the ones that are left:

#26 STA
#37 Warroad
#59 Duluth Marshall
#61 South St. Paul
#63 Blake
#74 Cathedral
#101 Little Falls
#106 Litchfield
#119 Mankato West
#125 New Ulm

http://www.minnhock.com/strength.htm
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Post by Let-the-KIDS-play »

flatontheice wrote:
HasNoMoves wrote:I think the top 3 seeds are obvious in STA, Marshall, and Warroad...not too sure about the order. Cathedral definately deserves the #4 seed, and will get it. They also beat LF in a head to head matchup so LF cannot make a case for the 4 seed over Cathedral in my opinion. Plus Cathedral has played tougher competition. Their losses have come to Warroad, Marshall, and AA St. Cloud Tech. The Warroad and Marshall games were tight contests score-wise..not sure about shots and how the game played out etc. LF is a decent team, but not a top 4 seed. Mankato West is from the south and very undeserving as southern teams usually are...sorry, no offense..but its dissapointing in class A that one section is all southern
I think only the top two are obvious. Here are the schedule rankings for the teams that are in and the ones that are left:

#26 STA
#37 Warroad
#59 Duluth Marshall
#61 South St. Paul
#63 Blake
#74 Cathedral
#101 Little Falls
#106 Litchfield
#119 Mankato West
#125 New Ulm

http://www.minnhock.com/strength.htm


I just cant see using strength of schedule....Most of these teams are in a confrence with some weaker teams and would love to play stronger teams but cant.
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Post by DmnHawk5 »

SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:
George Blanda wrote:
SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:I want everybody to keep disregarding LF, keep disrespecting, don't take them serious. Please please please don't take them serious.

It will make winning that much more sweet.
And by that you really mean that you're taking it personally when people say that they don't think LF is good.

LF is good. No doubt about it. I don't see them going 2 and out. But I also don't see them getting a top four seed, although it is a possibility.
I am not taking it personally, I just know that most people outside of central Mn don't think much of LF and we probably won't get a seed at state. I just want them to go down their and prove the naysayers wrong. That is all.
Nothing against LF but i think the reason people outside of central MN don't think much of them is because when they get a chance to see them, which has been at state, they have been tossed around 2 and out last year, knocked out by DM 6-0 then loss to STA 8-4 the year before, and 3 years ago lose in the first round to DM 9-2. They are a good team but seem to have a tough time keeping up with the top competition in class A. They have a shot at knocking off a team in the first round, but i don't think they deserve a top 4 seed when you look at the other teams in the tourney.
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Post by SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 »

DmnHawk5 wrote:
SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:
George Blanda wrote: And by that you really mean that you're taking it personally when people say that they don't think LF is good.

LF is good. No doubt about it. I don't see them going 2 and out. But I also don't see them getting a top four seed, although it is a possibility.
I am not taking it personally, I just know that most people outside of central Mn don't think much of LF and we probably won't get a seed at state. I just want them to go down their and prove the naysayers wrong. That is all.
Nothing against LF but i think the reason people outside of central MN don't think much of them is because when they get a chance to see them, which has been at state, they have been tossed around 2 and out last year, knocked out by DM 6-0 then loss to STA 8-4 the year before, and 3 years ago lose in the first round to DM 9-2. They are a good team but seem to have a tough time keeping up with the top competition in class A. They have a shot at knocking off a team in the first round, but i don't think they deserve a top 4 seed when you look at the other teams in the tourney.
Last year was the first time they went 0-2 at state and that was because they had a 2 goal lead on Hermantown and lost and did not feel like playing that second game. If a certain player who left early for Jr's was still playing I guarantee nobody would want to play that team.
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Post by gruntcall »

If a certain player who left early for Jr's was still playing I guarantee nobody would want to play that team.[/


a bunch of teams could say they same thing. (IF) :wink:
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flatontheice wrote: I think only the top two are obvious. Here are the schedule rankings for the teams that are in and the ones that are left:

#26 STA
#37 Warroad
#59 Duluth Marshall
#61 South St. Paul
#63 Blake
#74 Cathedral
#101 Little Falls
#106 Litchfield
#119 Mankato West
#125 New Ulm

http://www.minnhock.com/strength.htm
Good idea, but why didn't you just go by minnhock's PS2 rankings?

6 ST THOMAS ACADEMY
14 DULUTH MARSHALL
20 WARROAD
26 MANKATO WEST
32 ST CLOUD CATHEDRAL
35 LITTLE FALLS
52 BLAKE
97 LITCHFIELD
98 NEW ULM
113 S ST. PAUL
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George Blanda wrote:
dherman8 wrote:With Cathedral's win last night, you have the seeding righ on Elliott.
Do you really believe that...

Or do you believe this...
dherman8 wrote:When Denfeld beats Cathedral tonight there will be no question. Your best argument was for Breck who is by far a longer shot (and ranked behind LF) to make state than LF so don't tell me anything about assuming LF getting out of their section because they are by far more likely than Breck. None of the big three have to lose for LF to get the four seed. I don't even believe Cathedral has to lose for that to happen but I think they will. Thanks for the backup Angus.
Flip flopper????
Is that flip flopping or stating the truth? I read it now and it may be considered flip flopping but I was just saying I thought Cathedral was going to lose and the fact that I think LF can get a four seed over Cathedral is true, but do you think the seeding committee cares what I think? They'll give Cathedral the 4.
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dherman8 wrote:
George Blanda wrote:
dherman8 wrote:With Cathedral's win last night, you have the seeding righ on Elliott.
Do you really believe that...

Or do you believe this...
dherman8 wrote:When Denfeld beats Cathedral tonight there will be no question. Your best argument was for Breck who is by far a longer shot (and ranked behind LF) to make state than LF so don't tell me anything about assuming LF getting out of their section because they are by far more likely than Breck. None of the big three have to lose for LF to get the four seed. I don't even believe Cathedral has to lose for that to happen but I think they will. Thanks for the backup Angus.
Flip flopper????
Is that flip flopping or stating the truth? I read it now and it may be considered flip flopping but I was just saying I thought Cathedral was going to lose and the fact that I think LF can get a four seed over Cathedral is true, but do you think the seeding committee cares what I think? They'll give Cathedral the 4.
I'm interested to hear how you think LF can get the 4 seed over Cathedral when Cathedral beat them head to head.
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Post by dherman8 »

Goldy Gopher wrote:
dherman8 wrote:
George Blanda wrote: Do you really believe that...

Or do you believe this...
Flip flopper????
Is that flip flopping or stating the truth? I read it now and it may be considered flip flopping but I was just saying I thought Cathedral was going to lose and the fact that I think LF can get a four seed over Cathedral is true, but do you think the seeding committee cares what I think? They'll give Cathedral the 4.
I'm interested to hear how you think LF can get the 4 seed over Cathedral when Cathedral beat them head to head.
Arguments could be made due to Cathedral losses to Delano, St. Cloud Tech, Sauk Rapids, and a tie with Alexandria and quality wins are pretty much the same but the head to head win sticks out for Cathedral. And the fact that they played DM tough helps too. That is why I think the voters won't get swayed. And that's why I agree with Elliot's prediction and at the same time thats why I heavily disagree with Mankato West even being considered for the four seed.
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dherman8 wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:
dherman8 wrote: Is that flip flopping or stating the truth? I read it now and it may be considered flip flopping but I was just saying I thought Cathedral was going to lose and the fact that I think LF can get a four seed over Cathedral is true, but do you think the seeding committee cares what I think? They'll give Cathedral the 4.
I'm interested to hear how you think LF can get the 4 seed over Cathedral when Cathedral beat them head to head.
Arguments could be made due to Cathedral losses to Delano, St. Cloud Tech, Sauk Rapids, and a tie with Alexandria and quality wins are pretty much the same but the head to head win sticks out for Cathedral. And the fact that they played DM tough helps too. That is why I think the voters won't get swayed. And that's why I agree with Elliot's prediction and at the same time thats why I heavily disagree with Mankato West even being considered for the four seed.
Your Flyers lost so Sauk Rapids too, so you can throw that one out the window.
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The way its shaping up, I don't think LF has much of a chance at a 4 seed. The only hope is if SSP beats STA and even then it may not be likely. They'll have to earn some respect with their play.
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Mite-dad wrote:The way its shaping up, I don't think LF has much of a chance at a 4 seed. The only hope is if SSP beats STA and even then it may not be likely. They'll have to earn some respect with their play.
=D> \:D/ =D>

Finally someone who is not blinded by the purple and yellow glasses.

Thank you Mite-dad.
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Goldy Gopher wrote:
dherman8 wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote: I'm interested to hear how you think LF can get the 4 seed over Cathedral when Cathedral beat them head to head.
Arguments could be made due to Cathedral losses to Delano, St. Cloud Tech, Sauk Rapids, and a tie with Alexandria and quality wins are pretty much the same but the head to head win sticks out for Cathedral. And the fact that they played DM tough helps too. That is why I think the voters won't get swayed. And that's why I agree with Elliot's prediction and at the same time thats why I heavily disagree with Mankato West even being considered for the four seed.
Your Flyers lost so Sauk Rapids too, so you can throw that one out the window.
Wow that was a quick response. You were just waiting to throw something in my face.......Like I didn't know they lost to Sauk Rapids. You asked me to give an argument and I did. Just stop trying to start another argument. You could have saved time and thrown Cathedral in our other argument and I would've gave in. Breck was a pretty ridiculous argument. Just give it up and lets move on.
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Goldy Gopher wrote:
Mite-dad wrote:The way its shaping up, I don't think LF has much of a chance at a 4 seed. The only hope is if SSP beats STA and even then it may not be likely. They'll have to earn some respect with their play.
=D> \:D/ =D>

Finally someone who is not blinded by the purple and yellow glasses.

Thank you Mite-dad.
Did I not just give in on the post a couple before mite dad? Knowledge up man.
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dherman8 wrote: Wow that was a quick response. You were just waiting to throw something in my face.......Like I didn't know they lost to Sauk Rapids. You asked me to give an argument and I did. Just stop trying to start another argument. You could have saved time and thrown Cathedral in our other argument and I would've gave in. Breck was a pretty ridiculous argument. Just give it up and lets move on.
Well when I ask you why Small Falls deserves the 4 over Cathedral and one of the reasons that you give is a team that they both lost to, what do you expect?
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Goldy Gopher wrote:
dherman8 wrote: Wow that was a quick response. You were just waiting to throw something in my face.......Like I didn't know they lost to Sauk Rapids. You asked me to give an argument and I did. Just stop trying to start another argument. You could have saved time and thrown Cathedral in our other argument and I would've gave in. Breck was a pretty ridiculous argument. Just give it up and lets move on.
Well when I ask you why Small Falls deserves the 4 over Cathedral and one of the reasons that you give is a team that they both lost to, what do you expect?
Hence why I said it wasn't a very good argument in an earlier post. I don't even know why i'm still talking. I said I wasn't going to argue but you are like my girlfriend. STOP PICKING AT EVERY LITTLE THING.

Lets hear another prediction from someone PLEASE
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dherman8 wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:
dherman8 wrote: Wow that was a quick response. You were just waiting to throw something in my face.......Like I didn't know they lost to Sauk Rapids. You asked me to give an argument and I did. Just stop trying to start another argument. You could have saved time and thrown Cathedral in our other argument and I would've gave in. Breck was a pretty ridiculous argument. Just give it up and lets move on.
Well when I ask you why Small Falls deserves the 4 over Cathedral and one of the reasons that you give is a team that they both lost to, what do you expect?
Hence why I said it wasn't a very good argument in an earlier post. I don't even know why i'm still talking. I said I wasn't going to argue but you are like my girlfriend. STOP PICKING AT EVERY LITTLE THING.

Lets hear another prediction from someone PLEASE
Here's a prediction for you.

1. St. Thomas Academy
2. Duluth Marshall
3. Warroad
4. St. Cloud Cathedral

If somehow by the grace of God St. Thomas loses to SSP. Then they will look like this.

1. Duluth Marshall
2. Warroad
3. St. Cloud Cathedral
4. Mankato West
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Post by George Blanda »

I can see it in my head. Goldy at his computer laughing because he's smarter than everyone and dherman8 sitting behind his computer with a bright red face as he is clearly the most P.O.ed 'bored' member in recent memory.
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