Stillwater player

[formerlybackofnet]

Does anyone know what happened to the Stillwater player that got injured on Sat. Is he okay?

[GBombay29]

I talked with his Dad, no broken bones, might have stretched ligaments. Hopefully just bad bruising. Those knee to knee hits are scary.

Bad Night for the Ponies lost the game, injured player during the game and a teammate fell in the parking lot and broke his ankle in 2 spots.

[DPA MacManus]

It was Alex Chulel #28. The last I had heard, through the grapevine, is that it was a hyper-extended knee and that he would be fine. Hopefully he will make a speedy recovery.

The expeditious manner in which the emergency medical team responded to Aldrich Sat night was quite impressive. :shock: We can only assume they were extremely busy that night. Otherwise they were extremely negligent in taking a minimum of 20 minutes just to arrive! No doubt a serious injury would have resulted in front page news on Sunday, as it appeared nobody was prepared to respond. I hope the response protocol is being reviewed for future games. Many in attendance wondered why there wasn't an EMT (and/or ambulance) at the rink for this type of game. They've had them standing by at some Squirt tournaments I've attended this year.

[tomASS]

Those are the days you head straight home and stay inside.

[GBombay29]

It was Alex Chulel #28. The last I had heard, through the grapevine, is that it was a hyper-extended knee and that he would be fine. Hopefully he will make a speedy recovery.

The expeditious manner in which the emergency medical team responded to Aldrich Sat night was quite impressive. We can only assume they were extremely busy that night. Otherwise they were extremely negligent in taking a minimum of 20 minutes just to arrive! No doubt a serious injury would have resulted in front page news on Sunday, as it appeared nobody was prepared to respond. I hope the response protocol is being reviewed for future games. Many in attendance wondered why there wasn't an EMT (and/or ambulance) at the rink for this type of game. They've had them standing by at some Squirt tournaments I've attended this year.

I asked his Dad the same question. He said they stopped the game and were going to move him to the locker room when they tried to move him thta's when the Trainer thought it was broken. They didn't call for the ambulance until after they stopped the game. His dad said it was funny how he made it to the bench but the trainer thought his leg was broke, any time I have seen a kid with a broken leg you knew by the screaming somethng was really wrong. I to hope he has a speedy recovery.

[formerlybackofnet]

When did the injury occur? was it right as MV got the first goal, I was at the game but never saw the injury untill Alex was on the bench.

[DPA MacManus]

As I recall, the actual injury/collision occured a few minutes prior to the first MV goal. I didn't see the initial contact but it occured in the neutral zone, just about on the MV blue-line. He hobbled over to the bench where the trainer checked-out the injury. A minute or two later MV scored and the teams were preparing to face-off. It sounds like the initial decision was then made to move him to the locker room and that's when the prolonged delay began. Again, I did not see the initial contact but heard from two different people that an MV player may have stuck a knee out in an attempt to slow him down. No penalties called, but I'm curious if anyone else had seen anything.

[rw11]

i was at this game. the injury occured about 3-5 minutes before mv scored their goal. that is pretty suspicious that they waited that long until mr. phil hausley insisted they call the ambulence. especially when there ended up being no broken bones or anything.

[who_b_dat]

Aww cmon now. If it was a ploy it backfired. Let's move on...

Good luck to the kid in his recovery.

[Cabela10]

that is pretty suspicious that they waited that long until mr. phil hausley insisted they call the ambulence. especially when there ended up being no broken bones or anything.

Since when is it up to the coaches to call the ambulances? It's not their decision to make the phone call. It's the trainers job to make the call if they can't handle whats going on at the rink. Get real. Phil Housley had 19 other guys to try to prepare for the rest of the game, not to worry about an injured player. Now if the player died on the ice, that's a different story.

[ImissMYhockey]

As far as how he got hurt, I thought that the two players ran into each other be accident, I dont know if the puck was near either of them. But then again you dont pay close attention to something like that. As far as housley stoping the game, it looked pretty suspicious that it was right after MV scored. Why would you wait 5 minutes if you felt that he needed to go to the hospital?

[score14me]

[Since when is it up to the coaches to call the ambulances? It's not their decision to make the phone call. It's the trainers job to make the call if they can't handle whats going on at the rink. Get real. Phil Housley had 19 other guys to try to prepare for the rest of the game, not to worry about an injured player. Now if the player died on the ice, that's a different story.[/quote]

Say it ain't so, but add it to the list (televised games/Ref calls/suspension decisions/sports shows). Yet another example of the inexplicable Housley influence on otherwise (presumably) level headed adults.

[skateguymn]

I saw the collision. MV kid (Menk-undersized to say the least) was about to level the Stillwater kid. Both moving at a high speed in opposite direction toward each other. Menk stepped up from his blue diagonally across the ice as the SW kid caught a sucker pass, had they hit each other they both would have been on stretchers. Instead the Stillwater kid moved just enough and Menk flinched. As a result Menks hip caught he kid in the leg sending him hard to the ice. Again had the collision been head on they both would have been seriously injured. The stillwater kid did leave the ice under his own power immediately. MV scored and Phil the Thrill made the call. Get the ambulance!
That delayed the game enough to take the momentum away. IT was a good coaching move. In my opinion Stillwater was more effective in the offensive end but to be honest Phil was outcoached by Brad Schwartzbauer of MV. MV kids were motivated to turn the game into a physical battle. The goal was a direct result of some of the most fierce persistant body checking I have see in a high school game. Goldsmith and Mauricio to name only two had Stillwater looking in all directions waiting to be pounded.
It was an intense, not overly skilled game that was as entertaining as any one could ask for.
Again in overtime, body checks lead to a puck on the half board, the kid stepped in and made a great blocker side shot. I am sure he is still on cloud nine.
I ask all of you one question, Who pays for the ambulance?
Answer: You and I do in our insurance premiums, but Phil got his way.

[Cabela10]

Say it ain't so, but add it to the list (televised games/Ref calls/suspension decisions/sports shows). Yet another example of the inexplicable Housley influence on otherwise (presumably) level headed adults.

Honestly, what are you talking about? Since when does a Varsity head coach make the call to get an ambulance in? I've been around hockey my whole life and behind the bench for the last 5 years. The decision is never up to the coaches. That's what the trainers are there for. That's what the parents decide. Usually the kids will get driven to the hospital by their parents.

[who_b_dat]

Unless you are bleeding all over the place or have bones popping out thorough the skin, most people don't call the ambulance immediately. It takes a few minutes for most people (trainers included) to rationally ascertain the possible extent of an injury and make the call as to whether a ride in an ambulance is needed or if one is capable of self transport. 3-5 minutes (if that was indeed what it was – I didn’t run my stopwatch) seems to be about right.

The conspiracy theorists are just hating on Housley. Rip the guy all ya want for his coaching style or perceived ability. But, this medical ploy dog don’t hunt.

[skateguymn]

It was reported that the kid had stretched ligaments.....no break. Apparently this came from the father of the player. If true then you have to question whether an ambulance is necessary. All within seconds of a goal being scored and several of his players looking to regain their marbles after being blasted by some hard checks.
If Phil is not to blame for a heady coaching move then someone needs to look into the abilities of the trainer.
20 plus minute break. I was concerned for the kid but the zamboni door was open for all that time, I was bummed it got so blasted cold in the rink!
I for one am not blasting Phil.
Just the decision to delay the game so long for stretched ligaments.

[Cabela10]

It's possible it was the arena's doing, more so than Housley dictating what went on. You are acting like Mr. Housley was out on the ice telling what the arena staff and EMT people should do, so he could hold up the game.

What would holding up the game help his team anyways? I don't understand this theory. If it truely took 20 minutes, then the EMT and arena staff should be questioned, not Mr. Housley.

[GBombay29]

For the love of christ. You guys have turned "asking about an injured player" into "Bash the coach cause they called the ambulance".

They stopped the game to move him to the locker room, that's when the TRAINER decided to call the ambulance. A Sheriffs deputy made the call after the game was stopped thats why it took so long for them to get there. The trainer was the one who thought the leg was broken.

[rw11]

actually, being in the lower student section, i heard hausley tell the refs " i dont care what you say, we are stopping this game and getting an ambulance here" so if you dont think it is up to the coaches at all, your wrong

[Cabela10]

Coaches do not decide that unless the trainer told Housley to say that.