HIBBING vs DULUTH MARSHALL

[vppp]

you know what? stop crying. hibbing beat i falls twice this year (both times when it really mattered). they are the better team. you may think the falls are better but someday you'll come to reality and see what happened when they came head to head.
and there is nothing at all sad with hibbing, marshall, anoka, or cloquet coming out of section 7. they are all great teams. so quit whining and enjoy the playoff season

[fromdanorth]

Going to Be one hell of a game, i know ill be on hand to catch this one.

Hibbing:3
Duluth Marshall: 2

Hibbing is Shutting Down Teams, if they play the way they have been
They can win this game, I saw the Marshall game, Not Impressed, Virginia Just Stunk up the Place.

whats your problem with your stupid comments about virginia all the time? they must have stepped on you in the past,if you don't have a sense for ligament comments about a certain team keep it to yourself

[in_the_stands]

DM by 2.

They have more depth both ways, and a defense that will shut down DeCenzo and Jamnick just as they did in the earlier match-up.

This game is what a section final should look like - two good teams battling it out for something they've both worked hard toward all year. Congrats to both squads.

[pacman]

This game is what a section final should look like - two good teams battling it out for something they've both worked hard toward all year. Congrats to both squads.

Couldn't Agree with that statement More.

[vppp]

there's no way it's going to be a 6-5 game to whoever said that earlier. expect it to be an extremely low scoring affair. both teams need to avoid getting stupid penalties. If Sandstrom stays hot it'll be 2-1, Jackets

[GoGoGophers]

fromdanorth wrote:
whats your problem with your stupid comments about virginia all the time? they must have stepped on you in the past,if you don't have a sense for ligament comments about a certain team keep it to yourself.

Sounds like your a Toppers fan. You won the game but it was against a bad team so what your in the finals. DM was nothing special against the Devils. Virginia was shaky in warm ups and one weak goal from behind the net caused Virginia to crash. Virginia did beat Hibbing this year but like DM Hibbing got a goal and Virginia just fell apart. They were a young inexperienced team that relys on Lustig to heavily.

[HShockey2180]

I hope DM wins, because I like their band better and would prefer to see the toppers band at the X in march.

DM 4-2

[puckman22]

7A22A wrote:
All the negative talk about Virginia. If they looked bad, its because DM made it that way. Virginia has a nice team (ask Duluth Denfeld).

Yea Virginia is a good team if you lose to Princeton your a good team. Virginia is a young team that's not as good as everyone makes them. Ooo they beat Ely,Silver Bay, Two Harbors they also beat Hibbing when the Jackets where playing some of their worst hockey ask them how they did the 2nd time. Virginia is not a good team. Dont get me wrong Marshall is quick and they can move the puck but their not in section 2 anymore where things came a little easier.

That is rediculous. A: Virginia did not play Ely this year. B: Hibbing was not playing their worst hockey of the year when Virginia beat them (they beat Grand Rapids just six days later). C: To say Virginia is a bad team is just plain wrong. There are three teams that could be in the state tournament that Virginia beat (Hibbing, Duluth Denfeld, and Little Falls). D: Section 2, now known as 5A, is just as tough this year with Hermantown, Denfeld, Cathedral, and Sauk Rapids. Would have been no cakewalk for Marshall there either.

You can't blow off a team because of one game. (ie. Virginia losing to Princeton) Hibbing got blasted by Rochester Mayo 6-1 earlier this year (I might add that Virginia beat them 3-0 the very next day) and no one is saying that Hibbing is a bad team. That Princeton loss has come up in every thread where Hibbing and Virginia have been mentioned. And I'm sure that your line of thinking was not the same before the last five minutes of the Hibbing/Virginia game when the score was still 2-1 with Virginia on a powerplay. That game, by the way, turned out to be Virginia's most lopsided loss of the season.

Back to the topic at hand. Duluth Marshall looked better the first time they played Virginia. Had it not been for a defensive meltdown by Virginia in a 2:25 span in the second period, they may have only gotten one goal. Marshall's second goal came from behind the net, the third on a hand out from a Virginia defenseman who gave away the puck in the slot, and the fourth after two Virginia defensemen failed to get the puck out of the zone by overskating and partially fanning on clearing attempts. All that happened between the 2:54 mark and the 5:19 mark of the second period. Other than that the game was a 1-1 game.

Virginia had many more scoring chances in this game than they did three weeks ago. They hit the pipe twice, #3 shot a puck over the top of a wide open net, and Paul made some nice saves. The last game, Virginia had just 10 shots on goal and only two or three scoring chances; this time they had 23 shots and probably 8 or 9 chances. Virginia actually outshot them 13-9 in that second period, despite being outscored 3-0. To say that Duluth Marshall stepped up would be misleading. If anything, they stepped backwards. Hibbing won't give them those extra opportunities.

Hibbing continues to keep good teams off the scoreboard and Sandstrom is playing better now than he has all year. They still aren't getting scoring from anybody but DeCenzo and Jamnick, but that's all they will need against Duluth Marshall. I have a hard time putting anybody but Hibbing as the favorites in this game after watching the last few weeks unfold. Hibbing will beat Marshall at its own game.... Defense - because Marshall doesn't have a Jamnick or DeCenzo on their squad to put the puck in the net.

I expect another low scoring game. I don't see Marshall getting more than a goal or two and I can see Hibbing getting two or three - maybe more if Marshall can't stay out of the penalty box. (They picked up 9 penatlies against Virginia)

You should consider putting your writing efforts in a book.



Marshall's second goal came from behind the net, the third on a hand out from a Virginia defenseman who gave away the puck in the slot, and the fourth after two Virginia defensemen failed to get the puck out of the zone by overskating and partially fanning on clearing attempts.

I'm going to share an old quote that my grandfather told me once when I
made the same argument you are. He said "Son, at the end of the year they don't ask you how they went in, but how many you got"

[PuckRanger]

You should consider putting your writing efforts in a book.

Marshall's second goal came from behind the net, the third on a hand out from a Virginia defenseman who gave away the puck in the slot, and the fourth after two Virginia defensemen failed to get the puck out of the zone by overskating and partially fanning on clearing attempts.

I'm going to share an old quote that my grandfather told me once when I
made the same argument you are. He said "Son, at the end of the year they don't ask you how they went in, but how many you got"

Yeah, I know I get long winded sometimes. But, I'm not really much of a big book guy, myself.

What you say is entirely true, it doesn't matter how they go in. However the point is, that you can't count on other teams giving you those opportunities as the competition level increases. Duluth Marshall needs to find a way to create some scoring on their own if they want to advance into the state tournament and do any damage should they get there. Your probably not going to get another goal from behind the net and your probably not going to see a defenseman try to dribble out of traffic four feet in front of his own goalie. I'll give DM credit, they took advantage of the mistakes made by a younger an inexperienced team, but they will need more than that when they run into teams such as Hibbing that have been here before that aren't making those mistakes.

[DHShockey#1fan]

I think that this game is going to be great. Hibbing wins 4-2. Anyone that says Marshall is going to destroy Hobbing is going to bo sadly mistaken. Its about time that the private school gets beat. Go Hibbing!

[hshckfan08]

I keep hearing people say that DM cant score goals. The fact is they average 4.9 goals per game. To give some comparison, the explosive I Falls offense averaged 5.3 per game, Denfled averaged 4.9 a game and Hibbing isnt even in the top 20 in single A for this category. Im not saying this will be a high scoring affair, but its not like Marshall cant score on their own.

[vhsdevils]

[quote="PuckRanger"] They still aren't getting scoring from anybody but DeCenzo and Jamnick, but that's all they will need against Duluth Marshall.

what about Hanegmon?

[fan2007]

Hibbing will find a way and pull a big upset. Maybe it is not as much of an upset now, but 2 months ago, Hibbing was not in this conversation at all. Now Hibbing has found their identity and is playing their best hockey. Hibbing 2 Marshall 1 OT.

[PuckRanger]

They still aren't getting scoring from anybody but DeCenzo and Jamnick, but that's all they will need against Duluth Marshall.

what about Hanegmon?

You could throw him in there, too. But Jamnick and DeCenzo are the main play makers, Hanegman is a good finisher though.

[cititeshockey]

I hope DM wins, because I like their band better and would prefer to see the toppers band at the X in march.

DM 4-2

wow lets just have both the bands show up to the decc then and see who has the better drumline....then the fans can vote and the winner has their hockey team go to the x.....

that is a great idea we should decide all hockey games by this

[PuckRanger]

I keep hearing people say that DM cant score goals. The fact is they average 4.9 goals per game. To give some comparison, the explosive I Falls offense averaged 5.3 per game, Denfled averaged 4.9 a game and Hibbing isnt even in the top 20 in single A for this category. Im not saying this will be a high scoring affair, but its not like Marshall cant score on their own.

The scoring question that has been brought up is not without merrit. Its not a season long thing, its mainly the second half of the season. The season average of 4.9 goals per game was mainly from the first half of the season where they scored more than five in many of their games and hit double-digits a couple of times. I posted this in another thread before:

Duluth Denfeld(W 3-2): 2 Even Strength Goals, 1 SH goal.
Virginia(W 3-1): 2 Even Strength Goals, 1 Empty-netter
Ashland(W 12-1): Well-- they're awful... nothing of value gained here, but they scored a dozen.
Superior(L 1-2): 1 Even Strength Goal
Cretin-DH(W 3-1): 3 Even Strength Goals
Proctor(W 3-0): 1 Even Strength Goal, 2 SH Goals
St. Cloud Cathedral(W 2-0): 2 Even Strength Goals

That's 11 Even Strength goals in six games (I'm throwing out the Ashland game... Everyone's putting up double-digits on them). ZERO powerplay goals, and 3 Shorthanded goals. Granted, these are all pretty good opponents, but this is what they're going to be facing.

You can go back and see the same things in games against Hibbing (2-0 win), Warroad (3-2 OT Loss), and Hermantown (3-2 win)...

You can now add Eveleth, a 6-0 win with 5 even strength goals and their first powerplay goal since the Ashland game. Many other teams have hit double digits against Eveleth. I've already posted my thoughts about the goals in the Virginia game.

Their powerplay ranks down with the bottom echelon of teams in the state at around 16%. The last time they scored a powerplay goal against a quality opponent, it was against Warroad on Jan 25th a minute into the second period. Ten games have passed since then.

Its hard to be all that impressed with that. Its been adequate for most of their games because of their defense. However, it lets teams like Proctor, Superior, Warroad, Virginia, etc. stay in games and it did cost them in the Warroad and Superior games. If they are going to win, it will be because they kept Hibbing's top line off the scoreboard.

I will say this, however, strange things happen in big games - especially in front of the TV camera - and you certainly can't truly predict high school hockey all that easily. The game will definitely be worth watching and should be close and very entertaining.

[hshockey17]

I was hoping for a DM vs I Falls final but it proves that Hibbing knocked them off and they are a pretty solid team hungry for a State Tournament, but I believe when it comes down to it the team with more experience will win and I think I'll have to go with Duluth Marshall as the Section 7A Champions. No score prediction though...I'm not too great at them....I'll say it "should" be low scoring, but then again how often is a high school playoff game predictable?

[hshckfan08]

I keep hearing people say that DM cant score goals. The fact is they average 4.9 goals per game. To give some comparison, the explosive I Falls offense averaged 5.3 per game, Denfled averaged 4.9 a game and Hibbing isnt even in the top 20 in single A for this category. Im not saying this will be a high scoring affair, but its not like Marshall cant score on their own.

The scoring question that has been brought up is not without merrit. Its not a season long thing, its mainly the second half of the season. The season average of 4.9 goals per game was mainly from the first half of the season where they scored more than five in many of their games and hit double-digits a couple of times. I posted this in another thread before:

Duluth Denfeld(W 3-2): 2 Even Strength Goals, 1 SH goal.
Virginia(W 3-1): 2 Even Strength Goals, 1 Empty-netter
Ashland(W 12-1): Well-- they're awful... nothing of value gained here, but they scored a dozen.
Superior(L 1-2): 1 Even Strength Goal
Cretin-DH(W 3-1): 3 Even Strength Goals
Proctor(W 3-0): 1 Even Strength Goal, 2 SH Goals
St. Cloud Cathedral(W 2-0): 2 Even Strength Goals

That's 11 Even Strength goals in six games (I'm throwing out the Ashland game... Everyone's putting up double-digits on them). ZERO powerplay goals, and 3 Shorthanded goals. Granted, these are all pretty good opponents, but this is what they're going to be facing.

You can go back and see the same things in games against Hibbing (2-0 win), Warroad (3-2 OT Loss), and Hermantown (3-2 win)...

You can now add Eveleth, a 6-0 win with 5 even strength goals and their first powerplay goal since the Ashland game. Many other teams have hit double digits against Eveleth. I've already posted my thoughts about the goals in the Virginia game.

Their powerplay ranks down with the bottom echelon of teams in the state at around 16%. The last time they scored a powerplay goal against a quality opponent, it was against Warroad on Jan 25th a minute into the second period. Ten games have passed since then.

Its hard to be all that impressed with that. Its been adequate for most of their games because of their defense. However, it lets teams like Proctor, Superior, Warroad, Virginia, etc. stay in games and it did cost them in the Warroad and Superior games. If they are going to win, it will be because they kept Hibbing's top line off the scoreboard.

I will say this, however, strange things happen in big games - especially in front of the TV camera - and you certainly can't truly predict high school hockey all that easily. The game will definitely be worth watching and should be close and very entertaining.

I will definately agree with you on the powerplay, it is not good. Anyway, cant wait for wednesday... should be a 7A classic.

[GoGoGophers]

I keep seeing people say Hibbing has no depth. In the Falls game Hibbing rolled 3 lines and you cant tell me that lines 2 & 3 did not have chances to score. And when the other lines where out there they also were tough defensively and shut down Youso's line and to be honest I really dont think Marshall has a line like that. But it will come down to goaltending and who shows up Paul or Sandstrom.

[puckmaster69]

I hate to say it but i don't see hibbing winning this one. I've hated both of these teams for my whole life, but i would love to see Hibbing (less of the 2 evils) win it. But marshall has been playing tough all year and hibbing won't be able to keep up. I've gotta say pulling off the upset against i-falls was pretty impressive so I can't quite count them out. I'll be at Decc hope its a good game.

[7A22A]

I keep seeing people say Hibbing has no depth. In the Falls game Hibbing rolled 3 lines and you cant tell me that lines 2 & 3 did not have chances to score. And when the other lines where out there they also were tough defensively and shut down Youso's line and to be honest I really dont think Marshall has a line like that. But it will come down to goaltending and who shows up Paul or Sandstrom.

When Marshall beat Hibbing 2-0; it was Marshall's second line that matched up with Hibbings first line for most of the game. This strategy has continued during the year. Jamnick is very fast, but these DM kids can skate with the best of them and they will be on the penalty kill too. I think DM needs to stay out of the box and/or get an evenly called game. And I don't feel that Paul is a lock in goal. These goalies, have been, rotating for a while and Messina's stats are impressive.

[pacman]

You Have to wonder how the reffing will be in this one, and who will be Reffing to boot, will it be Tok and His Crew of garbage reffing or will it be Neutral Refs from 7AA.

[mnmouth]

Hibbing-Falls was played fairly evenly throughout. There were a few times where I thought Falls would pull ahead in the 2nd, but a shot was either off target or off a Hibbing defender. I also thought that Hibbing would get the go-ahead goal early in the 3rd, when they were the aggressor.

If Marshall can handle the Jamnick-DeCenzo line, then they will win. Hibbing's depth is solid, but they lack finishers after the top line. Something tells me that Marshall will not stop Hibbing's top line, though.

Hibbing in a thriller 4-3.

[BIAFP]

Marshall in running time, Hibbing getting to the final was a fluke

[AngusYoung]

The Jackets are on a nice roll - DeCenzo is on a Title mission. Look for Hibbing to win a tight won, 3-2. Bader, your prediction is ridiculus - sounds like sour grapes.

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