8A Predictions........

[Wild4hockey]

I don't know if I would stick my neck out there and declare "Warroads' prorgam is in decline." That is a foolish statement given their track record.

I must say I like the direction of the TRF program with Tim at the helm. I believe he will be a great leader and provide much needed motivation to TRF hockey at all levels. TRF will be a favorite to come out of Section 8a next season. With players like Gothberg, Dillon and Castle I like their chances.

[MNhockey fan]

If Warroad opted up to AA, they might as well kiss any state appearances goodbye, let alone state championships... True, Warroad can compete against Roso, but what about Moorhead? If you remember back to 2005, Warroad had the best team in the state and finished with a perfect season... but they still couldn't beat Moorhead... If Warroad went to AA, and miraculously made it to state, there's not much hope of them making it to state finals...

I disagree. They and Roseau are pretty even most years. Moorhead has been down a little this year, but I believe Warroad would still be 1 of the favorites in 8AA...

You sound like most Warroad brass. Too scared to go into unventured waters and too comfortable in Class A knowing they have a 40-50% chance at going to State in a weaker class. Warroad is by no means a AA school, however, I do believe they are a AA hockey program. I find it funny how they talk up their tradition but punk out when it comes down to playing the best..

While I think the HS program is very solid in Warroad, look at the feeder program. Not one youth team on the boys side got out of districts. Peewees had a total of 20 skaters and 1 goalie, squirts had a total of 16 skaters and by the end only one goalie. Bantams had decent numbers but both teams did terrible in the district. The Bs are hosting the B2s regions, and only got that as invited cuz no other team wanted to go. Hopefully there is a loop hole in the recruiting rule. Its maybe not on the down swing right now, but look out below in the next couple years.

[schwang17]

I don't know if I would stick my neck out there and declare "Warroads' prorgam is in decline." That is a foolish statement given their track record.

I must say I like the direction of the TRF program with Tim at the helm. I believe he will be a great leader and provide much needed motivation to TRF hockey at all levels. TRF will be a favorite to come out of Section 8a next season. With players like Gothberg, Dillon and Castle I like their chances.

We don't agree often, but I agree with you here...

[schwang17]

While I think the HS program is very solid in Warroad, look at the feeder program. Not one youth team on the boys side got out of districts. Peewees had a total of 20 skaters and 1 goalie, squirts had a total of 16 skaters and by the end only one goalie. Bantams had decent numbers but both teams did terrible in the district. The Bs are hosting the B2s regions, and only got that as invited cuz no other team wanted to go. Hopefully there is a loop hole in the recruiting rule. Its maybe not on the down swing right now, but look out below in the next couple years.

Now I don't know alot about Warroad's youth program, but I don't think they're ever really that great at the Youth levels. However, come High School they are always there. Like Shanty said, I don't think you can base how the young kids do and then translate that to the Varsity team. They will always be ultra competitive, whether they are down a little or not.

[elliott70]

Each level has one or two decent kids

That's all you need, 2 stud seniors, 2 great juniors, and 2 very good sophs. Mix in a move in or two and Warroad will be what they always are. 16-9 in a down year and 23-2 in a good one.

Never, ever, project what the HS team will be like based on the youth teams.

Based on Warroad's bantam & peewee teams, theymay have one more year where they are even considered a top 20 team.

Bantam's - at least 4 teams better in the idstrict which is section 8A plus Roso.
Peewee's - ditto, or worse.



Shanty, its easy to predict, its difficult to be right.

[elliott70]

In 3 years based on youth programs (excluding Bemidji) and a couple after that:

1. East Grand Forks
2. Thief River Falls

3. Crookston

4. Warroad

5. Lake of the Woods
6. Hallock
7. Red Lake Falls

8. Bagley
9. Park Rapids
10. Walker

Sorry Shanty, but I had to do it.

[elliott70]

Warroad
is not
should not
could not be
a AA team.

[schwang17]

Warroad
is not
should not
could not be
a AA team.

Anybody who predicts
Bagley, RLF, and Kittson
to
be better
than PR
the next 3 years
needs
his head examined.


Your predictions
are
assinine.

Sorry Elliott, much respect, but had to do it...

[WHSWarriors!!!]

Warroad
is not
should not
could not be
a AA team.

I wouldn't say that we couldn't be a AA team, but it wouldn't be pretty.... But we don't know whether or not Warroad would succeed... we won't know unless we DO opt up.... I agree that Roso is the exception, not the rule... I don't see any point in opting up... Also, there are plenty of teams that could opt up beside Warroad, like Hermantown, EGF and Duluth Marshall... I don't see anyone else complaining about them!

[elliott70]

Warroad
is not
should not
could not be
a AA team.

Anybody who predicts
Bagley, RLF, and Kittson
to
be better
than PR
the next 3 years
needs
his head examined.


Your predictions
are
assinine.

Sorry Elliott, much respect, but had to do it...

Sorry "Schwanger, but I did not say the next 3 years. I said in 3 years.
How many Bantam A and Bantam B games have yo seen this year.
I have watched every team on this list except Walker.

PR's bantams (at this time) did not look strong when I saw them play, and that was a B team. Bagley is doing some good things, PR may finish ahead of any one of those teams, but not by much.

Again, sorry, but LEARN to READ.
And to LISTEN to ME!!!!!

[Irishmans Shanty]

Predicting is easy, being right is difficult - elliott70

Mon Feb 25 "Section Semi's Edition II"

(2)Park Rapids vs. (3)EGF

[elliott70]

Predicting is easy, being right is difficult - elliott70

Mon Feb 25 "Section Semi's Edition II"

(2)Park Rapids vs. (3)EGF

And I predict, as does Shanty, the Green Wave by 2.

[schwang17]

Warroad
is not
should not
could not be
a AA team.

Anybody who predicts
Bagley, RLF, and Kittson
to
be better
than PR
the next 3 years
needs
his head examined.


Your predictions
are
assinine.

Sorry Elliott, much respect, but had to do it...

Sorry "Schwanger, but I did not say the next 3 years. I said in 3 years.
How many Bantam A and Bantam B games have yo seen this year.
I have watched every team on this list except Walker.

PR's bantams (at this time) did not look strong when I saw them play, and that was a B team. Bagley is doing some good things, PR may finish ahead of any one of those teams, but not by much.

Again, sorry, but LEARN to READ.
And to LISTEN to ME!!!!!

Whether it's within the next 3 years or in 3 years there is no way PR will fall below RLF or Bagley. I have not seen the games at the youth levels you have, obviously. However, when I was playing, the teams we used to lose to in Pee-Wees and Bantams we ending up being just as good or better than in High School. I know this happens with several other groups of teams as well. Just because Team A went to State in Pee-Wees, were great in Squirts, don't mean jack. 10-12 years ago we would get slaughtered by DL in Pee Wee's and Bantams, by the time we got to Varsity we were beating them. Knowing this, I wouldn't put too much into your 3 year planner.

Stahnke will never let the program fall to where you're planting them. I understand he's had a Lehrke ever since he took over. I still think there are some ways to improve the kids who are coming up in the next few years.

[Irishmans Shanty]

Whether it's within the next 3 years or in 3 years there is no way PR will fall below RLF or Bagley.

Stahnke will never let the program fall to where you're planting them.

Trust me, It Can Happen. I've lived it.

If it does happen, people will look at the coach and say, What happened man? And those people will be looking in the wrong place. There are many, many, many things the coach has no control over to prevent or stop.

[elliott70]

Anybody who predicts
Bagley, RLF, and Kittson
to
be better
than PR
the next 3 years
needs
his head examined.


Your predictions
are
assinine.

Sorry Elliott, much respect, but had to do it...

Sorry "Schwanger, but I did not say the next 3 years. I said in 3 years.
How many Bantam A and Bantam B games have yo seen this year.
I have watched every team on this list except Walker.

PR's bantams (at this time) did not look strong when I saw them play, and that was a B team. Bagley is doing some good things, PR may finish ahead of any one of those teams, but not by much.

Again, sorry, but LEARN to READ.
And to LISTEN to ME!!!!!

Whether it's within the next 3 years or in 3 years there is no way PR will fall below RLF or Bagley. I have not seen the games at the youth levels you have, obviously. However, when I was playing, the teams we used to lose to in Pee-Wees and Bantams we ending up being just as good or better than in High School. I know this happens with several other groups of teams as well. Just because Team A went to State in Pee-Wees, were great in Squirts, don't mean jack. 10-12 years ago we would get slaughtered by DL in Pee Wee's and Bantams, by the time we got to Varsity we were beating them. Knowing this, I wouldn't put too much into your 3 year planner.

Stahnke will never let the program fall to where you're planting them. I understand he's had a Lehrke ever since he took over. I still think there are some ways to improve the kids who are coming up in the next few years.

"Predicting is easy, being right is difficult."

[SB24]

You guys are right, Elliott really screwed that up. It should have read:

9.5 Walker
9.5 Park Rapids

[Wild4hockey]

The usual suspects are in the section championship again. I am dissapointed that PR couldn't perform when it matters! I wanted to be a believer. They were just pretending, like so many have done in the past. When another once in a decade player like Lehrke comes along the powers that be in PR need to have the forsight to prepare their team to compete in a very tough Section 8A. Hopefully, this season will serve as a learning experience for PR to play tougher competition, year in and year out. This will help them build a strong program. It can be done with the right leadership.

[Irishmans Shanty]

The 8A tournament numbers.

Days: 7
Games: 9
Games remaining: 1
Upsets: 1
Surprises: 0
Teams eliminated: 9
Teams remaining: 2
Goals: 62
Hearts broken: many, most per capita are in PR and Bemidji

[OGEE OGELTHORPE]

One more time,

EGF to state.

Believe it!

Nice pediction TT

[schwang17]

If it does happen, people will look at the coach and say, What happened man? And those people will be looking in the wrong place. There are many, many, many things the coach has no control over to prevent or stop.

PR's talent level as a program has improved almost every year since its inception. If you go back through time, to the Hafner's, Knapp's, Albee's, and Lehrke's it all gets re-shuffled. Now that the Lehrke's are gone, who is the next stud(s) that is/are able/willing to carry PR? Everybody said they would fall after these respective players left, but it didn't happen, and I guarantee it will never fall to the projections Elliott is spewing.

The only question about PR is will they ever be good enough and have the experience and talent to win a few in a row on the road in the playoffs.

[Irishmans Shanty]

The 8A season is quickly coming to a close. Since its genesis back in late November, I have attempted to forcast 208 games. During the holidays I missed a few games from various tournaments so it is reasonable to believe there have been upwards of 220 contests involving 8A teams this year.

Well, tonight is the big one. With any luck at all, I (we) will get four more opportunities to predict 8A contests before this season is fitted for a toe tag and rolled into the cooler.

So here goes.

Thurs Feb 28, 2008 "Championship Edition"

#1 Warroad (21-6) vs. #3 EGF (13-13-1), This Warrior team is tournament tested, key players in their lineup tonight have been there done this. Familiarity in pressure situations is immeasurable. Good Luck to both squads.

[elliott70]

The 8A season is quickly coming to a close. Since its genesis back in late November, I have attempted to forcast 208 games. During the holidays I missed a few games from various tournaments so it is reasonable to believe there have been upwards of 220 contests involving 8A teams this year.

Well, tonight is the big one. With any luck at all, I (we) will get four more opportunities to predict 8A contests before this season is fitted for a toe tag and rolled into the cooler.

So here goes.

Thurs Feb 28, 2008 "Championship Edition"

#1 Warroad (21-6) vs. #3 EGF (13-13-1), This Warrior team is tournament tested, key players in their lineup tonight have been there done this. Familiarity in pressure situations is immeasurable. Good Luck to both squads.

Thanks, Shanty.

I believe of the 208 I have about 199 correct, so this will give me 200.


Warroad over EGF by 5 - 2.

TRF back a step, followed by Bemidji and then PR and Kittson Central.


Only nine months until the race begins again.

[Irishmans Shanty]

A big thumbs up to the coaches of 8A, they knew who was boss of their house.



8A Championship
#1 Warroad 2
#3 EGF 0

FINAL

[schwang17]

A big thumbs up to the coaches of 8A, they knew who was boss of their house.



8A Championship
#1 Warroad 2
#3 EGF 0

FINAL

Lame!

I can't wait for the cheerleader introductions - Hahn, Ravendahlen, and crew in their cute little outfits at the X..

SB - make sure to tell them to wear nylons. It's not spring quite yet...

[SiouxRecruit]

hahahaha......