Will Park Rapids lose before sections?

newsguy35 · Post by **newsguy35** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:06 am

Undercover Hockey Lover wrote:Curious...how does that play into the seeding for Section 8A. If they were a common opponent with PR maybe...but gee...I don't see them on PR's schedule twice wait their not even on there once. Maybe the skirt wearers as Suzy likes to call them have bigger nuts than PR.

They may have bigger nuts but they also have a 2 game losing streak, one of which they should not have dropped. The Roseau comment has nothing to do with the seeding but the losses are going to hurt their cause, especially if they are to EGF, Bemidji and LOW. The other thing that may hurt Warroad is even if they do get the #1 seed, they have a long lay off from 2/11-2/21 and that kind of time off can hurt a teams positive momentum (assuming they win the last few games of course).

Undercover Hockey Lover · Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:28 am

Thanks for pointing that out coach.

SiouxRecruit · Post by **SiouxRecruit** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:13 am

im getting my nightly laughs from someone other than SB....its a nice change of pace...

SiouxRecruit · Post by **SiouxRecruit** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:36 am

20-0-0

frederick61 · Post by **frederick61** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:10 pm

Park Rapids have 6 games left. The next two are at home against Kittson Central and Crookston. Kittson Central is a .500 team and Crookston has won two games this season. Crookston lost to Roseau two weeks ago 4-2 and Warroad 5-1 three weeks ago. The remaining four games are on the road. Two are back to back, Detroit Lakes and Morris. Detroit Lakes is playing at .500 also and will have played EGF (at EGF) two days prior to playing Park Rapids (at home).

The final two road games are at Prairie Centre and Mora. Prairie Centre has a winning season and Mora is 16-3-1 and plays in Section 5A. The Rapids last game will be on Feb 15th. A potential Section 8A seed with an unbeaten Rapids could be #1-Park Rapids, #2-Warroad, #3-EGF, #4-TRF, #5-Bemidji, #6-LOW, #7-Crookston, #8-Kittson Central, #9-Red Lake Falls, #10-Walker, and #11-Bagley. The potential Section 8A tourney would then be Park Rapids playing the winner of Kittson Central/Red Lake Falls and TRF playing Bemidji in one bracket, #-EGF playing the winner of LOW/Bagley and #2 Warroad playing the winner of Crookston/Walker in the other bracket.

SB24 · Post by **SB24** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:12 pm

Sorry no #1 seed for PR.

frederick61 · Post by **frederick61** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:41 pm

SB24 wrote:Sorry no #1 seed for PR.

Are #1 seeds in Section 8A restricted to jersey colored black and gold. Perhaps Crookston deserves the #1 because they came within 2 goals of beating Roseau. And don’t forget Bemidji with their 12 loses, they did beat Fergus Falls to give them one victory in their last eight games. Perhaps history is more important, what Section 8A always needs is another trip by Warroad to state. What is the Section 8A criteria among the coaches that vote that people can so confidently with three weeks to go predict Warroad with 7 loses the #1 seed?

SB24 · Post by **SB24** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:45 pm

A bit bitter are you? What happened, get your season/career ended at the hands of the Black and Gold? But anyway, it really doesn't matter if you give Warroad the 1 seed or the 11 seed, it's going to be the same outcome either way.

And by the way...where did that 7th loss come from?

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:52 pm

frederick61 wrote:
SB24 wrote:Sorry no #1 seed for PR.
Are #1 seeds in Section 8A restricted to jersey colored black and gold. Perhaps Crookston deserves the #1 because they came within 2 goals of beating Roseau. And don’t forget Bemidji with their 12 loses, they did beat Fergus Falls to give them one victory in their last eight games. Perhaps history is more important, what Section 8A always needs is another trip by Warroad to state. What is the Section 8A criteria among the coaches that vote that people can so confidently with three weeks to go predict Warroad with 7 loses the #1 seed?

The seeding is not based on season record.
Fred, you need to look deeper.
Seeding is done by coaches voting. PR will not get the #1 seed and if they lose they could fall to #5.
Seeding right now will probably go:

1. Warroad - they are the best team.
2. EGF - they may be the second best team.
3. PR - they may be the second best team.
4. Bemijdi or TRF - TRF has some nice wins and not so nice loses including to Bemidji. Bemidji plays roller-coaster hockey.
6. Could be RLF, Hallock, or Crookston or LOW.
10. Bagley
11. Walker

Fred, your logic is without full knowledge of section teams, their records, and their schedules.
PR will not get the #1 seed on less something drastic happens to Warroad (EGF to some extent) the rest of the season.

What seciotn 8 needs is to have a play-off to determine who gets to go to state, regardless of jersey color. (Oh, that's what we do.)

mossett · Post by **mossett** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:37 pm

Maybe they will go undefeated in the regular season but there is no way they will get through the sections. Lets see....when was the last time one player got his team to state?

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:47 pm

mossett wrote: when was the last time one player got his team to state?

I can think of a few off the top of my head.

1988 Larry Olimb
1989 Niklas Axelson
1996 Zach Hallett (Roseau had no answer for him in the finals)
2006 I don't think TRF gets it done without their big guy either.

mossett · Post by **mossett** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:54 pm

Lets consider the drop off effect. The players mentioned were good yes....but they had a slight less drop off from top to bottom than PR

sinbombyzermancurve · Post by **sinbombyzermancurve** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:00 pm

mossett wrote:Lets consider the drop off effect. The players mentioned were good yes....but they had a slight less drop off from top to bottom than PR

The chances prolly arent too good.....but looking at the section this yr....i think 1 great player could steal a game or two in sections and lead his team to state...as long as the goaltending was good.

frederick61 · Post by **frederick61** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:26 pm

Irishmans Shanty wrote:
mossett wrote: when was the last time one player got his team to state?
I can think of a few off the top of my head.

1988 Larry Olimb
1989 Niklas Axelson
1996 Zach Hallett (Roseau had no answer for him in the finals)
2006 I don't think TRF gets it done without their big guy either.

Don't forget Henry Boucha, in the 1969 State Tourney, he played every minute of every game except one game where he missed two minutes.

SB24 · Post by **SB24** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:42 pm

frederick61 wrote:
Irishmans Shanty wrote:
mossett wrote: when was the last time one player got his team to state?
I can think of a few off the top of my head.

1988 Larry Olimb
1989 Niklas Axelson
1996 Zach Hallett (Roseau had no answer for him in the finals)
2006 I don't think TRF gets it done without their big guy either.
Don't forget Henry Boucha, in the 1969 State Tourney, he played every minute of every game except one game where he missed two minutes.

there were other very good players on those teams

the mullet · Post by **the mullet** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:58 pm

SB24 wrote:
frederick61 wrote:
Irishmans Shanty wrote: I can think of a few off the top of my head.

1988 Larry Olimb
1989 Niklas Axelson
1996 Zach Hallett (Roseau had no answer for him in the finals)
2006 I don't think TRF gets it done without their big guy either.
Don't forget Henry Boucha, in the 1969 State Tourney, he played every minute of every game except one game where he missed two minutes.

there were other very good players on those teams

From what i have read on here it doesn't sound like PR is as much of a one-man-show as last year. That knap kid has been scoring and the other forwards have been chipping in when lehrke is watched very closely by two of more players. I don't think you can just keep an eye on him and think you have shut them down.

TTpuckster · Post by **TTpuckster** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:57 pm

SB24 wrote:
frederick61 wrote:
Irishmans Shanty wrote: I can think of a few off the top of my head.

1988 Larry Olimb
1989 Niklas Axelson
1996 Zach Hallett (Roseau had no answer for him in the finals)
2006 I don't think TRF gets it done without their big guy either.
Don't forget Henry Boucha, in the 1969 State Tourney, he played every minute of every game except one game where he missed two minutes.
there were other very good players on those teams

For instance Alan Hangsleben who ended up having a very long NHL career and Leo Marshall to name a couple.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:42 pm

the mullet wrote:
SB24 wrote:
frederick61 wrote: Don't forget Henry Boucha, in the 1969 State Tourney, he played every minute of every game except one game where he missed two minutes.

there were other very good players on those teams
From what i have read on here it doesn't sound like PR is as much of a one-man-show as last year. That knap kid has been scoring and the other forwards have been chipping in when lehrke is watched very closely by two of more players. I don't think you can just keep an eye on him and think you have shut them down.

PR is not a one man team.
They have a stud, no question. But his linemates are very effective. Knapp as the second line center is a good hockey player and plays well with Winkler and the other guy who I can never remember.
They have one good D man, 2 other stable D, and a fourth (if/when he comes back) that can skate teh puck up the ice andhas a pretty good shot/knows how to score.
Their goaltender is capable.
Two lines and 2 sets of D and a decent goalie. They can win. Winning at state will be difficult.

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:07 pm

elliott70 wrote: They have a stud, no question. But his linemates are very effective. Knapp as the second line center is a good hockey player and plays well with Winkler and the other guy who I can never remember.
They have one good D man, 2 other stable D, and a fourth (if/when he comes back) that can skate teh puck up the ice andhas a pretty good shot/knows how to score.

Are two lines and two sets of D enough to go toe to toe with a deeper club on an Olympic size sheet for 51 intense minutes. Especially if the contest has a few penalities that will tax the top of the bench even further.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:10 pm

Irishmans Shanty wrote:
elliott70 wrote: They have a stud, no question. But his linemates are very effective. Knapp as the second line center is a good hockey player and plays well with Winkler and the other guy who I can never remember.
They have one good D man, 2 other stable D, and a fourth (if/when he comes back) that can skate teh puck up the ice andhas a pretty good shot/knows how to score.
Are two lines and two sets of D enough to go toe to toe with a deeper club on an Olympic size sheet for 51 intense minutes. Especially if the contest has a few penalities that will tax the top of the bench even further.

I don't think so, I don't think it will be enough to get to the finals.

But goaltending, penalties, bounces, all that other 'stuff' that happens....

It could happen...

isaac z. · Post by **isaac z.** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:00 pm

No they won't go undefeated they will lose to Kittson 3-2

SB24 · Post by **SB24** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:29 pm

yea im with you

SB24 · Post by **SB24** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:30 pm

does this mean im not as dumb and sue thinks?

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:52 pm

SB24 wrote:does this mean im not as dumb and sue thinks?

Not that dumb SB.

20-1

Hallock

sorry Kittson Central.

Hallock 3
PR 2
Final

Joey (nine toes) Marcoux · Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:01 pm

Nice run by Park Rapids, and a tip of the hat to Kittson on a big win