Bantam A St. Cloud Tournament

Discussion of Minnesota Youth Hockey

Moderators: Mitch Hawker, east hockey, karl(east)

Post Reply
Moorhead 7&8
Posts: 17
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:40 pm

Bantam A St. Cloud Tournament

Post by Moorhead 7&8 »

who do you think will win the ST. Cloud tournament and Who is all in it?
pondyplayer93
Posts: 313
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:05 pm

Post by pondyplayer93 »

whos all in it?
Thin Blue Line
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:44 pm

Post by Thin Blue Line »

Link for the Tournament schedule:

http://cic-mn.org/bantam.html


Black Division

Apple Valley
Grand Forks, ND
Faribault
Sioux Falls, SD

Blue Division

Bemidi
North Metro
Lakeville North
Sartell

Red Division

Alexandria
Minneapolis Park
Chaska
Moorhead

Green Division

Burnsville
Cottage Grove
Minnetonka
St. Cloud

I would guess Grand Forks, Bemidji, Moorhead, and St. Cloud advance as the top seeds in their divisions.
pondyplayer93
Posts: 313
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:05 pm

Post by pondyplayer93 »

Black - Grand Forks

Blue - Bemidji

Red - Moorhead

Green - Minnetonka
gongshow006
Posts: 35
Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:56 pm

Post by gongshow006 »

black- faribault

blue- bemidji

red- moorhead

green-minnetonka or st cloud
northwoods oldtimer
Posts: 2679
Joined: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:01 pm

$$$$

Post by northwoods oldtimer »

It is too bad St. Cloud charges so much to get into this tournament. I think it keeps a lot of good clubs out. Picking Bemidji to win it all.
WASABEMIDJIFAN
Posts: 37
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:28 pm

Post by WASABEMIDJIFAN »

No charge this year to get in to the tournament. The teams paid 300.00 in advance.
Stealth
Posts: 663
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:05 pm

Post by Stealth »

Black Division
Grand Forks, ND

Blue Division
Sartell

Red Division
Moorhead

Green Division
Minnetonka

advance as the top seeds in their divisions
topshelf3
Posts: 53
Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:44 am

Post by topshelf3 »

agree with all above except Green. St. Cloud will be the winner. They trounced Minnetonka when they played them last.
GR3343
Posts: 1198
Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:39 pm

Post by GR3343 »

WASABEMIDJIFAN wrote:No charge this year to get in to the tournament. The teams paid 300.00 in advance.
I think he meant the costs that the team had to pay, not the spectators.
Character is who you are when no one is watching
elliott70
Posts: 15766
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:47 pm
Location: Bemidji

Post by elliott70 »

pondyplayer93 wrote:Black - Grand Forks

Blue - Bemidji

Red - Moorhead

Green - Minnetonka
These were the 4 finalist.
Bemidji beat Grand Forks
Minnetonka beat Moorhead

Bemidji beat Minnetonka in OT.
gongshow006
Posts: 35
Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:56 pm

Post by gongshow006 »

good overall tournament did not like the tie breaker rule of goals against should have went by head to head then goals against
George Blanda
Posts: 1442
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:17 pm
Location: St. Schmo

Post by George Blanda »

gongshow006 wrote:good overall tournament did not like the tie breaker rule of goals against should have went by head to head then goals against
It did go to head-to-head. Here is the rule from the program and available from the website...

Division Winners

1. Best record
2. In case of a 2-way tie, winner of the 2 tied teams.
"they are LAME" -darkdemon on SJU hockey
bardown012
Posts: 85
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:53 am

Post by bardown012 »

Here's what happened with the green division:

1. Best Record - Burnsville, Minnetonka, and St. Cloud were all 2-1.
2. Head - to - head - all teams were 1-1 against eachother.
3. Goal differential - Minnetonka and St. Cloud were both +6 and Burnsville was 0 so that knocked Burnsville out.
4. Goals Against - The rules never state that it goes back to head to head so it goes to goals against and Minnetonka had 7 and St. Cloud had 11 making Tonka the winner.
shoot to thrill
Posts: 100
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 9:13 am

Post by shoot to thrill »

bardown012 wrote:Here's what happened with the green division:

1. Best Record - Burnsville, Minnetonka, and St. Cloud were all 2-1.
2. Head - to - head - all teams were 1-1 against eachother.
3. Goal differential - Minnetonka and St. Cloud were both +6 and Burnsville was 0 so that knocked Burnsville out.
4. Goals Against - The rules never state that it goes back to head to head so it goes to goals against and Minnetonka had 7 and St. Cloud had 11 making Tonka the winner.

FYI - Rules clearly state that if there is a tie after the first tiebreaker in a 3 way tie you use the quotient to determine the winner (see below). Therefore, Minnetonka was the winner of bracket play. You kind of made it sound like it wasn't clear.

Division Winners
Minnesota Hockey State Tournament Rules will apply to determine division winners:
a) Champion: Best record, two (2) points for a win, one (1) point for a tie and zero (0) points for a loss.
b) In case of a two (2) way tie, winner of the game between two (2) tied teams. If the game ended in a tie,
see C, then D, then E.
c) In case of a three (3) or four (4) way tie, spread between goals for and goals against in all divisional play
-highest spread wins.
d) If still tied: divide goals for by goals against team, with highest quotient wins. e) If still tied after above, a
coin flip will determine the winner.
Post Reply