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Sectional Games:

1998 Lost to EGF 0-11
1999 Lost to EGF 1-7
2001 Lost to EGF 0-3
2004 Lost to TRF 4-7
2005 Lost to War 0-13
2006 Lost to EGF 0-7
2007 Lost to Crox 3-4

That about say's it all. The regular season is one thing but come tournament time I must say 8 goals for and 52 against Yet they should be a # 2 seed in the tournament because they may or may not go undefeated. :oops: Like I said before you earn respect in this section.
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Post by IAMAHOCKEYPLAYER »

flin flon, i don't know where you are gettin ur research but PR BEAT Crox last year 4-3 in sections. then lost to warroad in the semi's. I believe that the win in last years sections will help them this year.
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Get the facts correct before u post em :wink:
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Post by 123-robbiechip&ernie- »

Good info TTPuckster----thanks

00-01 PR/EGF 4-2---If I remember correctly a 14 year old PR freshman MIGHT have started the scoring in that game--think it was in PR
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123-robbiechip&ernie- wrote:Good info TTPuckster----thanks

00-01 PR/EGF 4-2---If I remember correctly a 14 year old PR freshman MIGHT have started the scoring in that game--think it was in PR
And, as I mentioned, I find it more impressive because EGF had a very good record and team that year that took consolation in state.
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IAMAHOCKEYPLAYER wrote:flin flon, i don't know where you are gettin ur research but PR BEAT Crox last year 4-3 in sections. then lost to warroad in the semi's. I believe that the win in last years sections will help them this year.
Hey Ima, take it easy.

Flin flon was probably repeating my post.
And I've got it wrong.
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TTpuckster wrote:2007 PR Lost to Crox 3-4
This is a fine example of revisionist's history. Generally it is frowned upon, except in this case.
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Undercover Hockey Lover wrote:11/24/07 Silver Bay/Cook County (7A)
11/30/07 at Walker-Hackensack-Akeley (8A)
12/07/07 at St. Paul Como Park (4AA)
12/08/07 at St. Paul Saints (4A)
12/11/07 Detroit Lakes (6A)
12/14/07 at East Grand Forks (8A)
12/18/07 at Wadena-Deer Creek (6A)
12/20/07 at Bagley/Fosston (8A)
12/26/07 EVELETH-GILBERT/ME TOURNAMENT
North Metro (5AA)
12/27/07 EVELETH-GILBERT/ME TOURNAMENT
Waupaca (WI)
12/28/07 EVELETH-GILBERT/ME TOURNAMENT
Irondale (5AA)
01/03/08 Northern Lakes (8AA)
01/05/08 at Kittson Central (8A)
01/10/08 Wadena-Deer Creek (6A)
01/12/08 Red Lake Falls (8A)
01/15/08 at Northern Lakes (8AA)
01/18/08 Lake of the Woods (8A)
01/22/08 Morris Area/Benson (6A)
01/24/08 Thief River Falls (8A)
01/29/08 at Detroit Lakes (6A)
01/31/08 at Red Lake Falls (8A)
02/01/08 Kittson Central (8A)
02/05/08 Crookston (8A)
02/08/08 at Morris Area/Benson (6A)
02/12/08 at Prairie Centre Area (6A)
02/15/08 at Mora/Hinckley-Finlayson (5A)

Gee....I don't see Roseau on this schedule twice nor do I see them on here once. Nor do I see your yearly game on FSN.

Shwag...take a nice long look, study it...THIS is what you as Head Peanut and rest of The Peanut Gallery are yapping about.
Just another team with a awful weak schedule.
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I have heard the Lehrke kid is the real deal. I just really struggle giving credit where credit is due after looking at there schedule. Put them up against just these teams from my area Duluth Marshall, Hermantown, Denfeld, I Falls, Hibbing and see if they go undefeated. I,d guess 2-3 at best and 1-4 is more realistic. I could be wrong but a team like Marshall if they are hitting on all cylinders that evening may put it in running time. I realize Marshall is a private school and a all star team of sorts but Hibbing who is 6-6-1 could win section 7 as well. All I,m saying is when you play a schedule like Hibbings 6-6 is not bad and it gets them ready for the sections. You simply have to look at strength of schedule. I see Park is not even in the top 15 in the PS2 rankings and this is obviously why.
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snapdog:

I think that was part of the point of the thread, they are dominating their schedule so much that who is going to beat them??????I say a number of them have a shot: Wadena, Detroit Lakes, Theif River Falls, Crookston, Lake of the Woods........They already beat DL, and Wadena, but play again. None of those teams are having great years but TRF and Crookston are definitely playing tougher teams...........and they did NOT at all route DL.
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Post by snapdog »

Maybe I missed the point sorry. I do want to say to Park Rapids fans that I don,t want to take anything away from there fantastic season so far. Maybe they will prove me wrong. I,d love nothing more than to see them at the State Tourney maybe beating Warroad in the section finals. Now that would be something!
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SiouxRecruit wrote:.....and about dead even with EGF
Is that PR math? Try going back to '93 and that 2 stays the same and the 4 turns to what a 10 or 12?

versus East Grand Forks 2-4-1
lost 2 - 8 2002-03
lost 1 - 9 2003-04
lost 1 - 8 2004-05
won 3 - 2 2005-06
lost 0 - 7 2005-06
tied 2 - 2 2006-07
won 6 - 5 2007-08* (you get the * for this one)
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Undercover Hockey Lover wrote:11/24/07 Silver Bay/Cook County (7A)
11/30/07 at Walker-Hackensack-Akeley (8A)
12/07/07 at St. Paul Como Park (4AA)
12/08/07 at St. Paul Saints (4A)
12/11/07 Detroit Lakes (6A)
12/14/07 at East Grand Forks (8A)
12/18/07 at Wadena-Deer Creek (6A)
12/20/07 at Bagley/Fosston (8A)
12/26/07 EVELETH-GILBERT/ME TOURNAMENT
North Metro (5AA)
12/27/07 EVELETH-GILBERT/ME TOURNAMENT
Waupaca (WI)
12/28/07 EVELETH-GILBERT/ME TOURNAMENT
Irondale (5AA)
01/03/08 Northern Lakes (8AA)
01/05/08 at Kittson Central (8A)
01/10/08 Wadena-Deer Creek (6A)
01/12/08 Red Lake Falls (8A)
01/15/08 at Northern Lakes (8AA)
01/18/08 Lake of the Woods (8A)
01/22/08 Morris Area/Benson (6A)
01/24/08 Thief River Falls (8A)
01/29/08 at Detroit Lakes (6A)
01/31/08 at Red Lake Falls (8A)
02/01/08 Kittson Central (8A)
02/05/08 Crookston (8A)
02/08/08 at Morris Area/Benson (6A)
02/12/08 at Prairie Centre Area (6A)
02/15/08 at Mora/Hinckley-Finlayson (5A)

Gee....I don't see Roseau on this schedule twice nor do I see them on here once. Nor do I see your yearly game on FSN.

Shwag...take a nice long look, study it...THIS is what you as Head Peanut and rest of The Peanut Gallery are yapping about.
I can guarantee that if they somehow even did go to State it wouldn't improve the schedule. Respect is earned, that doesn't mean it will be given even after they earned any...
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Undercover Hockey Lover wrote:
SiouxRecruit wrote:.....and about dead even with EGF
Is that PR math? Try going back to '93 and that 2 stays the same and the 4 turns to what a 10 or 12?

versus East Grand Forks 2-4-1
lost 2 - 8 2002-03
lost 1 - 9 2003-04
lost 1 - 8 2004-05
won 3 - 2 2005-06
lost 0 - 7 2005-06
tied 2 - 2 2006-07
won 6 - 5 2007-08* (you get the * for this one)
I was going by what 2 other people said...i didnt take the time to check the history...comon now underthecovers... :wink:...on the plus side... I guess PR won with 3 seconds left in OT...mcmorrow with another game winner....he is good \:D/
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defense wrote:snapdog:

None of those teams are having great years but TRF and Crookston are definitely playing tougher teams...........and they did NOT at all route DL.
It's people like this that really get me. People that chime in on garbage they know nothing about. PR started their HS program in 1990-91. They were in Section 4A until 1998. They have 25-30 kids that tryout for Varsity and that's it.. Quite honestly, they're even lucky to still have school sports. TRF, Warroad, and every other Section 8A opponent have 10x the history that Park does. Teams will schedule Crookston because they've played Crookston for years. They schedule LOW for the same reason. There is no other explanation because PR has been just as good or better than 3/4 of the respective 8A teams for 5-6 years now. This is like going after Kittson Central for not playing the Roseau's of the world more often...

Elliott, Shanty, and every other person with 1/2 of a brain knows this and it's been beat to a drum for 3-4 years in here and still people don't have a clue...
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snapdog wrote:I have heard the Lehrke kid is the real deal. I just really struggle giving credit where credit is due after looking at there schedule. Put them up against just these teams from my area Duluth Marshall, Hermantown, Denfeld, I Falls, Hibbing and see if they go undefeated. I,d guess 2-3 at best and 1-4 is more realistic. I could be wrong but a team like Marshall if they are hitting on all cylinders that evening may put it in running time. I realize Marshall is a private school and a all star team of sorts but Hibbing who is 6-6-1 could win section 7 as well. All I,m saying is when you play a schedule like Hibbings 6-6 is not bad and it gets them ready for the sections. You simply have to look at strength of schedule. I see Park is not even in the top 15 in the PS2 rankings and this is obviously why.
Maybe you should check the offseason schedule this kid puts himself through every summer. Then, while you're at it, check out his accomplishments against the best in the state. It doesn't vary any...
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schwang17 wrote:
defense wrote:snapdog:

None of those teams are having great years but TRF and Crookston are definitely playing tougher teams...........and they did NOT at all route DL.
It's people like this that really get me. People that chime in on garbage they know nothing about. PR started their HS program in 1990-91. They were in Section 4A until 1998. They have 25-30 kids that tryout for Varsity and that's it.. Quite honestly, they're even lucky to still have school sports. TRF, Warroad, and every other Section 8A opponent have 10x the history that Park does. Teams will schedule Crookston because they've played Crookston for years. They schedule LOW for the same reason. There is no other explanation because PR has been just as good or better than 3/4 of the respective 8A teams for 5-6 years now. This is like going after Kittson Central for not playing the Roseau's of the world more often...

Elliott, Shanty, and every other person with 1/2 of a brain knows this and it's been beat to a drum for 3-4 years in here and still people don't have a clue...
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schwang17 wrote:
defense wrote:snapdog:

None of those teams are having great years but TRF and Crookston are definitely playing tougher teams...........and they did NOT at all route DL.
It's people like this that really get me. People that chime in on garbage they know nothing about. PR started their HS program in 1990-91. They were in Section 4A until 1998. They have 25-30 kids that tryout for Varsity and that's it.. Quite honestly, they're even lucky to still have school sports. TRF, Warroad, and every other Section 8A opponent have 10x the history that Park does. Teams will schedule Crookston because they've played Crookston for years. They schedule LOW for the same reason. There is no other explanation because PR has been just as good or better than 3/4 of the respective 8A teams for 5-6 years now. This is like going after Kittson Central for not playing the Roseau's of the world more often...

Elliott, Shanty, and every other person with 1/2 of a brain knows this and it's been beat to a drum for 3-4 years in here and still people don't have a clue...
if you cant handle ppl talking about your team just leave the site,,, if alll 5 of you left then no one would talk about them. that seems to be what you want?
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Ok you got me on the score of some games.. I confess I didn't study before the test i was taking...But then again it is park and that test come section 8a tournament time really isn't that tough. Just go back and look at the scores.. Your Mighty team might catch a CROX, TRF, EGF sleeping during the regular season but it just doesn't happen that often (ONE TIME) in the post season and that is where it counts. Your team may win a game or MAYBE even two but to think your team has the talent or depth or TRADITION to win a section 8a title you are only fooling yourself. Because you will never convince me or many others on this board that park is a real true threat.. NOT this year at least. [-X
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TTpuckster wrote:OK here we go:

The title of the post is appropriate as you will see.

I was able to find data that PR has played EGF and Crox in the regular season since the 2000-2001 season. It may go back longer, but I could not find it. However, there have been playoff games prior to the 00-01 season.

Also, I could find no records that PR has ever played Warroad during the regular season.

Regular season games:

00-01 Beat Crox 2-1
Beat EGF 4-2 (impressive because EGF went to state)
DNP TRF

01-02 Lost to Crox 1-5
Lost to EGF 0-6
DNP TRF

02-03 Lost to Crox 2-3
Lost to EGF 2-8
DNP TRF

03-04 Beat Crox 9-6
Lost to EGF 1-9
Lost to TRF 3-7

04-05 Lost to Crox 2-4
Lost to EGF 1-8
Lost to TRF 2-7

05-06 Tie Crox 0-0
Beat EGF 3-2
Lost to TRF 2-4

06-07 Beat Crox 2-1
Tie EGF 2-2
Lost TRF 1-4

Overall W L T GF GA

vrs Crox 3 3 1 18 20
vrs EGF 2 4 1 13 37
vrs TRF 0 4 0 8 22

vrs all three 5 11 2 39 79


Sectional Games:

1998 Lost to EGF 0-11
1999 Lost to EGF 1-7
2001 Lost to EGF 0-3
2004 Lost to TRF 4-7
2005 Lost to War 0-13
2006 Lost to EGF 0-7
2007 Lost to Crox 3-4 WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Overall in Sectionals: W L GF GA

0 7 8 52

vrs War 0 1 0 13
vrs Crox 0 1 3 4
vrs TRF 0 1 4 7
vrs EGF 0 4 1 28

Overall sectionals and regular season:

W L T GF GA

vrs War 0 1 0 0 13
vrs TRF 0 5 0 12 29
vrs Crox 3 4 1 21 24
vrs EGF 2 8 1 14 65

Overall all games 5 18 2 47 131

Phew.

It looks like the last few years have been generally better.

Add it up Sue.

In 2007 they defeated CROX 4-3 in section play so they could go on to lose to Warroad 4-0. Also the seeding for 00-01 was 1-LOW, 2-PR, 3-EGF, 4-CROX (I don't know where WAR and TRF were). CROX knocks off LOW and EGF knocks ****ofF**** PR with EGF ultimately going to state. PR beat EGF at PR 4-2, but had to play their section match in EFG's barn to lose. I know this does not belong on this thread, but it always sits bad with me that section games are not played on neutral ice. WAR plays EGF at TRF...NO HOME ADVANTAGE!

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Flin Flon wrote:Ok you got me on the score of some games.. I confess I didn't study before the test i was taking...But then again it is park and that test come section 8a tournament time really isn't that tough. Just go back and look at the scores.. Your Mighty team might catch a CROX, TRF, EGF sleeping during the regular season but it just doesn't happen that often (ONE TIME) in the post season and that is where it counts. Your team may win a game or MAYBE even two but to think your team has the talent or depth or TRADITION to win a section 8a title you are only fooling yourself. Because you will never convince me or many others on this board that park is a real true threat.. NOT this year at least. [-X
Convince you or others?....For me..I could care less what anyone else thinks...there will ALWAYS be people who disagree about certain things..especially politics and sports :wink:....I still think ANYTHING can happen..especially after watching Warroad getting whomped last night on FSN...I loved it :P
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mohunk wrote:
TTpuckster wrote:OK here we go:

The title of the post is appropriate as you will see.

I was able to find data that PR has played EGF and Crox in the regular season since the 2000-2001 season. It may go back longer, but I could not find it. However, there have been playoff games prior to the 00-01 season.

Also, I could find no records that PR has ever played Warroad during the regular season.

Regular season games:

00-01 Beat Crox 2-1
Beat EGF 4-2 (impressive because EGF went to state)
DNP TRF

01-02 Lost to Crox 1-5
Lost to EGF 0-6
DNP TRF

02-03 Lost to Crox 2-3
Lost to EGF 2-8
DNP TRF

03-04 Beat Crox 9-6
Lost to EGF 1-9
Lost to TRF 3-7

04-05 Lost to Crox 2-4
Lost to EGF 1-8
Lost to TRF 2-7

05-06 Tie Crox 0-0
Beat EGF 3-2
Lost to TRF 2-4

06-07 Beat Crox 2-1
Tie EGF 2-2
Lost TRF 1-4

Overall W L T GF GA

vrs Crox 3 3 1 18 20
vrs EGF 2 4 1 13 37
vrs TRF 0 4 0 8 22

vrs all three 5 11 2 39 79


Sectional Games:

1998 Lost to EGF 0-11
1999 Lost to EGF 1-7
2001 Lost to EGF 0-3
2004 Lost to TRF 4-7
2005 Lost to War 0-13
2006 Lost to EGF 0-7
2007 Lost to Crox 3-4 WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Overall in Sectionals: W L GF GA

0 7 8 52

vrs War 0 1 0 13
vrs Crox 0 1 3 4
vrs TRF 0 1 4 7
vrs EGF 0 4 1 28

Overall sectionals and regular season:

W L T GF GA

vrs War 0 1 0 0 13
vrs TRF 0 5 0 12 29
vrs Crox 3 4 1 21 24
vrs EGF 2 8 1 14 65

Overall all games 5 18 2 47 131

Phew.

It looks like the last few years have been generally better.

Add it up Sue.

In 2007 they defeated CROX 4-3 in section play so they could go on to lose to Warroad 4-0. Also the seeding for 00-01 was 1-LOW, 2-PR, 3-EGF, 4-CROX (I don't know where WAR and TRF were). CROX knocks off LOW and EGF knocks of PR with EGF ultimately going to state. PR beat EGF at PR 4-2, but had to play their section match in EFG's barn to lose. I know this does not belong on this thread, but it always sits bad with me that section games are not played on neutral ice. WAR plays EGF at TRF...NO HOME ADVANTAGE!
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SiouxRecruit wrote:
Flin Flon wrote:Ok you got me on the score of some games.. I confess I didn't study before the test i was taking...But then again it is park and that test come section 8a tournament time really isn't that tough. Just go back and look at the scores.. Your Mighty team might catch a CROX, TRF, EGF sleeping during the regular season but it just doesn't happen that often (ONE TIME) in the post season and that is where it counts. Your team may win a game or MAYBE even two but to think your team has the talent or depth or TRADITION to win a section 8a title you are only fooling yourself. Because you will never convince me or many others on this board that park is a real true threat.. NOT this year at least. [-X
Convince you or others?....For me..I could care less what anyone else thinks...there will ALWAYS be people who disagree about certain things..especially politics and sports :wink:....I still think ANYTHING can happen..especially after watching Warroad getting whomped last night on FSN...I loved it :P
They got beat by the defending state champs and a team that is ranked #1 in the state this wasn't just some chump team like Morris Benson. Come on recruit you are smarter than that. So in other words now your comparing Park to ROSEAU, wow now that takes some BALLS.
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Flin Flon wrote:
SiouxRecruit wrote:
Flin Flon wrote:Ok you got me on the score of some games.. I confess I didn't study before the test i was taking...But then again it is park and that test come section 8a tournament time really isn't that tough. Just go back and look at the scores.. Your Mighty team might catch a CROX, TRF, EGF sleeping during the regular season but it just doesn't happen that often (ONE TIME) in the post season and that is where it counts. Your team may win a game or MAYBE even two but to think your team has the talent or depth or TRADITION to win a section 8a title you are only fooling yourself. Because you will never convince me or many others on this board that park is a real true threat.. NOT this year at least. [-X
Convince you or others?....For me..I could care less what anyone else thinks...there will ALWAYS be people who disagree about certain things..especially politics and sports :wink:....I still think ANYTHING can happen..especially after watching Warroad getting whomped last night on FSN...I loved it :P
They got beat by the defending state champs and a team that is ranked #1 in the state this wasn't just some chump team like Morris Benson. Come on recruit you are smarter than that.
I agree, at least Warroad isn't playing a bunch of JV teams :twisted:
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Flin Flon wrote:
SiouxRecruit wrote:
Flin Flon wrote:Ok you got me on the score of some games.. I confess I didn't study before the test i was taking...But then again it is park and that test come section 8a tournament time really isn't that tough. Just go back and look at the scores.. Your Mighty team might catch a CROX, TRF, EGF sleeping during the regular season but it just doesn't happen that often (ONE TIME) in the post season and that is where it counts. Your team may win a game or MAYBE even two but to think your team has the talent or depth or TRADITION to win a section 8a title you are only fooling yourself. Because you will never convince me or many others on this board that park is a real true threat.. NOT this year at least. [-X
Convince you or others?....For me..I could care less what anyone else thinks...there will ALWAYS be people who disagree about certain things..especially politics and sports :wink:....I still think ANYTHING can happen..especially after watching Warroad getting whomped last night on FSN...I loved it :P
They got beat by the defending state champs and a team that is ranked #1 in the state this wasn't just some chump team like Morris Benson. Come on recruit you are smarter than that.
I was just bustin ur peanuts....I know Warroad can play....its just Roseau (yes I know they are great) made them look pretty bad.....which im sure they would do to about every team in the state besides a chosen few.... :idea:
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