Rochester Century

gdad · Post by **gdad** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:35 pm

RW is just coming off a concussion. She has been skating out as a forward and doing quite well. I understand that she asked if she could skate out.

century2011 · Post by **century2011** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:12 pm

gdad,
I heard the same that you did, that she did ask to skate out. The reason that she did that is becasue she will do anything to try to help her team!! I have been able to go to a few games and watch RW #35 skate out and she is doing amazing and helping the team out quite a bit. And i do agree with Coachk too becasue when i have coached in the past i play the people that try hardest in practice!! I do like the way you are running things and i think that RW should re-think being a goalie because she is a very good forward for being a goalie for 5 years!

any input??

Valley Eggroll · Post by **Valley Eggroll** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:04 am

After doing some research on this team
"If you can't beat them, play basketball"

airhockey · Post by **airhockey** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:40 pm

RW dislocated her knee cap prior to the start of the season during cpt practice. got back and suffered a concussion in the lakeville game right after thanksgiving...

her 1st game back was thursday against austin.

airhockey · Post by **airhockey** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:44 pm

as far as skating out vs goalie?? (RW) she did ask to skate out and desires to help her team any way that she can...

if Coach M would give her a shot at goalie and give his kid a night off. LM has been giving up some soft goals...

Also, from what I hear RW brings her goalie and forward equip to every practice and game.... to be ready for whatever happens that day or night...

Keep working hard Century...

Marty McSorely · Post by **Marty McSorely** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:12 pm

LM is not even in the same class of as the two other girls HS goalies in the city. LM gets the print but technically she's a horrid goalie. Murphy & Potvin have 4 time the work ethic.

tigerpower · Post by **tigerpower** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:30 pm

I don't mean to put LM down, but I have to slightly agree with Marty. She's big, has some skill but gets thrown off her game very easily. One or two goals down and she's already screaming at teamates.

You also have to consider her 80-90 shots a game. First lines probably aren't playing and nobody wants to win 20-0 (Except New Ulm) so they aren't always shooting to score. If she worked and played to her potential I believe she could be a great goaltender, but as of now she's someone in the net.

Twinnesota · Post by **Twinnesota** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:52 am

tigerpower wrote:I don't mean to put LM down, but I have to slightly agree with Marty. She's big, has some skill but gets thrown off her game very easily. One or two goals down and she's already screaming at teamates.

You also have to consider her 80-90 shots a game. First lines probably aren't playing and nobody wants to win 20-0 (Except New Ulm) so they aren't always shooting to score. If she worked and played to her potential I believe she could be a great goaltender, but as of now she's someone in the net.

A goals against average of 7.1 is not good, but if she is taking 80 shots a game, that is a save percentage of way over 90% is it not?

Somebody should be screaming at somebody...

T

century2011 · Post by **century2011** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:12 pm

Well her save percentage would be around 88% with 80 shots a game but most of the time she doesnt get that many and the last few games she has had under 60 a game. Their game against Mankato East she had 28 shots and they lost 5-1.

That is a save % of around 20%!!Mankato East was not any better than the girls. So my opinon is that they should give RW a shot at goalie too!!

See how she does and aleternate them every few games because I personally would still like to see RW skate out also

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:25 pm

century2011 wrote:Their game against Mankato East she had 28 shots and they lost 5-1. That is a save % of around 20%!!

Better pay more attention in math class. 23/28 would be a save percentage of 92%. But this is incorrect, as in their game against Mankato East she had 57 saves:

http://www.mghca.com/test/scoreboard.ph ... =2007-12-4

Add in the 5 goals against and it was 62 shots. 57/62 equals a save percentage of 92% for this game. For the season it is 90% (645/716):

http://www.mghca.com/test/general/goali ... hp?pid=934

airhockey · Post by **airhockey** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:42 am

57 saves?? Do you actually have stats..?

Not that it really matters.. Since most of the century parents are willing to excuse the goalie and other members of the team for less than stellar work ethic some games. Ex: Mankato East!

Bottom line: Some of the girls come to play hard every game and every practice. Others dont. Yet, as the case of the Mankato East game, Century scored 2 goals and had a realistic chance to win that game... But the 2nd and 3rd periods, a portion of their team stopped skating!

That was a game the Century girls could have won!

Also, does it really matter how many saves 30 makes?? Watch a game once an a while... She lets in soft goals every game (except Babbitt) which i hear was her best of the season.

Leadership - As a supposed leader/captain of this squad does 30 display the qualities that captains are supposed to display. Does she work hard in practice or does she leave early? Does she support her teammates? Or does she constantly blame and yell at her teammates during the course of a game? Does she stay cool and on her game like a goalie needs to??

I think if anyone has watched a century girls game, they know the answers if they are honest with themselves.

Kudo's to the girls for playing on a tough team and an extra kudo's goes out to those girls that play hard, practice hard every day and every shift. The puck will start bouncing your way... Keep up the hard work and it will get better! Thanks for playing hockey for the Fun of it... not just the wins or losses!

Coachk · Post by **Coachk** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:41 am

Unfortunately with young teams, you have players that do not undersatand what it takes to be a good hockey player. Some players approach it as a social event. The good news as I have seen in the past, these players decide not to play any longer because they realize the commitment it takes during the season and after and decide its not for them. Regarding goalies I have seen RW play goalie and I know what kind of athlete she is. I have not seen LM play so for me to judge would be unfair. What I will say is, your goalie must be one of the best skaters on the team as well as one of the best athletes. Being a big goalie will not help you if you slow and heavy. When you play teams not like BETSE or Mankato who have slow inaccurate shots, but play a team like The Thoughbreds or SSM or Culver Academies, you better have a Athlete in net. RW is that person.

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:05 am

airhockey wrote:57 saves?? Do you actually have stats..?

Click on the link above - that is what the box score shows.

airhockey wrote:Also, does it really matter how many saves 30 makes?? Watch a game once an a while... She lets in soft goals every game (except Babbitt) which i hear was her best of the season.

Have never seen Century play and probably never will. I give them a lot of credit for saving girls hockey at the school, the way they went out and recruited inexperienced players to put a team together, etc.

But is it really fair to put the blame on the goalie when the team in front of her gives up an average of 71.6 shots a game? Over the first 10 games she's stopped 90% of them, which seems to indicate that goaltending is not Century's main weakness at the moment.

Twinnesota · Post by **Twinnesota** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:32 am

MNHockeyFan wrote:Have never seen Century play and probably never will. I give them a lot of credit for saving girls hockey at the school, the way they went out and recruited inexperienced players to put a team together, etc.

But is it really fair to put the blame on the goalie when the team in front of her gives up an average of 71.6 shots a game? Over the first 10 games she's stopped 90% of them, which seems to indicate that goaltending is not Century's main weakness at the moment.

I did think I said it was 90%+ a few posts ago...

I love the point you make about the TEAM...hockey is a team sport, and if the D gives up 70+ shots, one would expect that a good goaltender WOULD let 7 goals score, on the average.

Give the other goalie a chance, and if the save percentage is 95%, you lose by fewer goals...

T

Marty McSorely · Post by **Marty McSorely** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:42 am

Who said she was the problem or even bad. Her temporment does need a lot of work. All most people will tell you is she's not even close to the best goalie in Rochester yet the Media and others make her out to be.

Coachk · Post by **Coachk** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:04 am

I can't believe the Rochester media still do that, how awful!

jetjock · Post by **jetjock** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:20 am

I have coached SM in Rochester and think she is outstanding. Do not know much about the others. However; in the game against Austin, LM made most of the initial saves, it was the second and third shots that got to her. That is usually not completely reflective of the goalie. That usually is the result of developmental defense and a little rebound control.

Twinnesota · Post by **Twinnesota** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:40 am

jetjock wrote:...However; in the game against Austin, LM made most of the initial saves, it was the second and third shots that got to her. That is usually not completely reflective of the goalie. That usually is the result of developmental defense and a little rebound control.

Well stated !

T

Rocket78 · Post by **Rocket78** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:21 pm

SM is the best goalie in Rochester. JC is a work in progress. MB is better right now than SM was when she was in 10th grade so we'll see what the future holds for her. AM is very thin and not very strong so she will struggle when players are near the crease. Until MB is cleared to play again AM is our goalie. LM is easy to rattle and her coach has had to call time outs so she can get her act together. RW skated once in the summer scrimmage and even the 12U girls were scoring on her let alone the H/S girls. She never came back again so maybe it was a bad day for her. Yes I know, somebody is going to say that facing weak shots will throw off your timing but what I saw was yet another lazy goalie effort. In regards to 2nd and 3rd shots, if the attacker scores on the rebound it is generally the defenses fault for not clearing either the attacker or the puck. If they score on the third or fourth shot ya gotta ask why the goalie isn't clearing rebounds to the corners.

Rocket78 · Post by **Rocket78** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:33 pm

Coachk wrote:I can't believe the Rochester media still do that, how awful!

I don't think this is intentional by the PB or the TV. Big numbers attract attention. It is similar to the puckhog that scores 3-4 goals and never passes. They are a detriment to their team but they will still get the publicity. Look at the JM girls stats, MB has 2 goals and 4 helpers while EL has 6 goals and 0 assists. I know which one I want on my line. The new media will cover the person getting the points. If you read the articles when they quote the coaches - the coaches almost always mention the "quiet" players that play great defense or work the corners hard.

airhockey · Post by **airhockey** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:48 pm

Well... Thank you to all the parents and girls from century and also to all the other parents and girls that kept Century in the girls game.

RW has done well in the practices and works hard... a 12u scrimmage, heck sounds like she was jus trying to get some ice... IN 4 on 4 this summer RW replaced LM vs austin in one of their last games and did markedly better.

RW performed well in the preseason scrimmage and has worked hard or harder in practice and ALWAYS supports her teammates, including LM. Even though she would love a shot.. If she does well then rotate.. if not then put her back out and let her skate and get more seasoning during practice in the net!

But how can you not give RW a shot... She is willing to do whatever to support her team, works hard and still doesn't get a chance to play in Net?

Thanks for listening.. Its good to know that others are looking at what is going on in Roch girls high school hockey.

Go Century! Lets see how we do vs. Owatonna.

Rocket78 · Post by **Rocket78** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:25 pm

What is up with the concussions and the Century girls? I don't know this for a fact but I was told that Klampe quit due to a concussion suffered in Kasson in the sumer or fall. Are the other teams headhunting, are the Century girls skating with their heads down or is something else happening. When my boys played bantam and H/S hockey I only remember one concussion among their teammates. I hope KW is feeling better - its a bummer to get your marbles shaken up.

Marty McSorely · Post by **Marty McSorely** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:52 pm

Are the concussions related to the MAYO study people are talking about? I heard there was a JV goalie whom got hit in the chest and neck and ends up with a concussion.

Do you let the Mayo Clinic dictate everything down there? First HEP now Concussion Studies.

iPuck · Post by **iPuck** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:03 pm

There is no doubt that Rochester does not have a goalie problem. I really feel for Maidl because like Jet said, there's no one to protect her out front. I'd get raddled too knowing I don't have any defense in front of me!
Bonapace has a great work ethic! She's always finding ways to improve. She too will face many shots during a game and keeps her team in it. She doesn't get rattled at all. In fact, I believe I heard her say one day that she likes shootouts.
Murphy is also very strong and just a good kid. She's very humble for how good she is. As a sophomore, she had to step in to replace Mayo's starting goalie. That's a lot of pressure, but she proved that she was capable to step up into that role, and now look at what she's become.

As far as Century and concussions. Hockey can be a dangerous game. When you have girls skating with their heads down, they're going to collide with other skaters or with each other. It's one thing learning how to skate. It's another thing learning to carry a stick and a puck at the same time and be aware of what's going on around you. Especially in girls hockey, you can catch a pass with your head down b/c you don't have to worry about someone intentionally whaling you. However when you have two girls skating w/ their heads down, it's just a collision waiting to happen and that's probably what's happening. But what can you do?

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:28 pm

iPuck wrote:But what can you do?

Learn to carry the puck with your head up! It just takes practice.

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