Okay, we've all heard how the kids in the Made programs like Machine aren't supposed to show their excitement. It seems funny because nobody got more out of his celebrations than The Great One.
Did anyone see Ovechkin today? It was pretty cool. He scored in the slot, was pumping his fist by the time it hit the twine, and skated to the boards where he did a Moss-style end-zone dive. He was carrying on like Bill from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Or maybe it's Ted. Whichever one is played by Keanu Reaves.
Kids should get their money's worth when they tally. Ovechkin is still a kid at heart. It was cool to see him going bonanza.
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Re: No celebration rule at Minnesota Made
I have no problem with kids celebrating, but I do think that some get a little bit carried away.O-townClown wrote:Okay, we've all heard how the kids in the Made programs like Machine aren't supposed to show their excitement. It seems funny because nobody got more out of his celebrations than The Great One.
Did anyone see Ovechkin today? It was pretty cool. He scored in the slot, was pumping his fist by the time it hit the twine, and skated to the boards where he did a Moss-style end-zone dive. He was carrying on like Bill from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Or maybe it's Ted. Whichever one is played by Keanu Reaves.
Kids should get their money's worth when they tally. Ovechkin is still a kid at heart. It was cool to see him going bonanza.
My favorite sports quote came from Emmitt Smith, of the Dallas Cowboys, who was famous for never breaking into theatrics after he scored.
A reporter asked him, "Emmitt, why don't you celebrate when you score a touchdown?" He said, "I've been to the endzone before.........I expect to be there again............ain't no big deal."
Classic!!!!
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I agree with TomASS. As long as it is spontanious and not the 10th goal of a 10 - 0 route, why take the emotion out of the game? From today's Star Trib...
Celebrating painfully
If this NHL thing doesn't work out, maybe Vancouver native Aaron Voros can get a gig playing for the Canadian Football League's B.C. Lions.
Whenever the Wild scores and Voros is on the ice (which has been a lot lately), the Wild sparkplug and revelation flies into the celebratory huddle like he's a linebacker congratulating a defensive end for a sack.
Voros slaps helmets, punches chests, head-butts and bangs bodies as if he's in a concert mosh pit.
When James Sheppard scored in the third period Wednesday, "I thought he was going to knock poor Shep out," winger Mark Parrish said.
"Yeah, I saw colors," said Sheppard, who wasn't kidding. "I'm afraid to score again."
Teammates have pleaded with Voros to chill out on the physicality.
"I get a little jacked up," Voros said. "You work so hard in the trenches and you get rewarded with a goal, I get pretty excited. Maybe I've got to tone it down a little, but it's tough. I'm not really thinking at that point. I get pretty hyped when we score."
Celebrating painfully
If this NHL thing doesn't work out, maybe Vancouver native Aaron Voros can get a gig playing for the Canadian Football League's B.C. Lions.
Whenever the Wild scores and Voros is on the ice (which has been a lot lately), the Wild sparkplug and revelation flies into the celebratory huddle like he's a linebacker congratulating a defensive end for a sack.
Voros slaps helmets, punches chests, head-butts and bangs bodies as if he's in a concert mosh pit.
When James Sheppard scored in the third period Wednesday, "I thought he was going to knock poor Shep out," winger Mark Parrish said.
"Yeah, I saw colors," said Sheppard, who wasn't kidding. "I'm afraid to score again."
Teammates have pleaded with Voros to chill out on the physicality.
"I get a little jacked up," Voros said. "You work so hard in the trenches and you get rewarded with a goal, I get pretty excited. Maybe I've got to tone it down a little, but it's tough. I'm not really thinking at that point. I get pretty hyped when we score."
Huh? By making the statement "down goes Frazier". Wouldn't this be contrived? After all. You're quoting a famous athlete. I doubt this came to your mind out of the blue.
I know we haven't always seen eye to eye. But please stick with one approach and run with it.
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WOW go off to NYC for a day's business trip and the Arena's ice melts and the locker room doors are blown off their hinges.
Never being anyone to run and hide, I am the one that uttered the phrase, "down goes Frazier". If I had to do it again, I probably would not have got caught up in the moment. It was done in a celebratory way after the open-net goal was scored. It was not intended to taunt. It was done to celebrate the victory in my best Howard Cosell impression. I was ecstatic of what just happened. Not a miracle on ice but a very unexpected result in my opinion.
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I have no problem with celebrations that are spontaneous and based on true emotional joy. Those are typically a thing of beauty. The ones that are contrived, I have trouble tolerating.
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con·trived (kn-trvd) KEY
ADJECTIVE:
Obviously planned or calculated; not spontaneous or natural; labored: a novel with a contrived ending.
I know we haven't always seen eye to eye. But please stick with one approach and run with it.
Sir, Where I come from I think they call you a flip flopper. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WOW go off to NYC for a day's business trip and the Arena's ice melts and the locker room doors are blown off their hinges.
Never being anyone to run and hide, I am the one that uttered the phrase, "down goes Frazier". If I had to do it again, I probably would not have got caught up in the moment. It was done in a celebratory way after the open-net goal was scored. It was not intended to taunt. It was done to celebrate the victory in my best Howard Cosell impression. I was ecstatic of what just happened. Not a miracle on ice but a very unexpected result in my opinion.
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I have no problem with celebrations that are spontaneous and based on true emotional joy. Those are typically a thing of beauty. The ones that are contrived, I have trouble tolerating.
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con·trived (kn-trvd) KEY
ADJECTIVE:
Obviously planned or calculated; not spontaneous or natural; labored: a novel with a contrived ending.
Life's simple, but some insist on making it hard
Wayoutwest- How about Deion Sanders. One time a lady walked up to him and told him he was cocky. He said:
"Lady. It aint cocky if you can do it. Lady. I CAN do it".
The rest was history. He did back up everything he said he could do.
My favorite of all time: ( I forget who it was )
Scored a goal. Threw his glove up in the air and turned his stick. Held it up like a shot gun and shot at the glove as it came falling down. Priceless!
"Lady. It aint cocky if you can do it. Lady. I CAN do it".
The rest was history. He did back up everything he said he could do.
My favorite of all time: ( I forget who it was )
Scored a goal. Threw his glove up in the air and turned his stick. Held it up like a shot gun and shot at the glove as it came falling down. Priceless!
Life's simple, but some insist on making it hard
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Being able to "do it", in and of itself, doesn't make you cocky. Emmit could "do it" better than Dieon. Making a spectacle over the fact that you "did it" makes you "cocky."BoogeyMan wrote:Wayoutwest- How about Deion Sanders. One time a lady walked up to him and told him he was cocky. He said:
"Lady. It aint cocky if you can do it. Lady. I CAN do it".
The rest was history. He did back up everything he said he could do.
My favorite of all time: ( I forget who it was )
Scored a goal. Threw his glove up in the air and turned his stick. Held it up like a shot gun and shot at the glove as it came falling down. Priceless!
All that being said, I can appreciate a creative celebration, now and then. It just gets tiring when you do it time after time. (ala Chad Johnson..aka "Mucho Stinko")
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Hockey is a sport full of emotion and adrenaline. When you see kids celebrate it just shows they have heart and a love for the game. You can't take that away from hockey, its like spaghetti without the meatballs. It just isn't the same.
All in all it is one of the stupidest rules I have heard in a while. Just think if in a big game and someone scored to win a game in OT, and there was no celebration. Would'nt that just be stupid?
All in all it is one of the stupidest rules I have heard in a while. Just think if in a big game and someone scored to win a game in OT, and there was no celebration. Would'nt that just be stupid?
I agree nothing better than pure unplanned emotion of a player's celebration. Can you imagine if all the 1980 Miracle on Ice team had played with the emotional detachment rules.TrojanMan1 wrote:Hockey is a sport full of emotion and adrenaline. When you see kids celebrate it just shows they have heart and a love for the game. You can't take that away from hockey, its like spaghetti without the meatballs. It just isn't the same.
All in all it is one of the stupidest rules I have heard in a while. Just think if in a big game and someone scored to win a game in OT, and there was no celebration. Would'nt that just be stupid?
Everything thats good that happens in life always has a celebration. The difference is whether its a cocky one or a selfless one.
Back to the put after scoring goals in hockey, You usually see the 5 players on the ice huddle in a circle and tell eachother how much they love them.
Once in a while you get that crazy guy (like Theon (?) Fleury) that will skate around the ice and hop everywhere =]
I'm sure the bigger reason to address, is the crazy unneeded roughness in front of the net after the goalie freezes the puck, and the unsportsmanlike words that are said during those moments. I'm sick of seeing the refs call coincidentals for that crap.
Back to the put after scoring goals in hockey, You usually see the 5 players on the ice huddle in a circle and tell eachother how much they love them.
Once in a while you get that crazy guy (like Theon (?) Fleury) that will skate around the ice and hop everywhere =]
I'm sure the bigger reason to address, is the crazy unneeded roughness in front of the net after the goalie freezes the puck, and the unsportsmanlike words that are said during those moments. I'm sick of seeing the refs call coincidentals for that crap.
They are called the Machine because that is how they think of themselves. They are who they are and if you don't like it, don't do it. This constant bashing is ridiculous and serves no purpose. They probably like all the bashing since is gives them the "us against the world" mentality.
If they would have wanted to be like artists, maybe they would call themselves the "artists".
If they would have wanted to be like artists, maybe they would call themselves the "artists".
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Wow, it is ok to critique the names on the back of a jersey, but throw out on a "forum" the philosophy/rule of not being allowed to celebrate a goal scored in a hockey game and Boogey gets defensive? Seems like a good topic for a forum....Yes Boogey, we know you love MM. As you say "To each his own. As always."
I agree celebrating a goal is normal but don't carry on.
I agree celebrating a goal is normal but don't carry on.
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Rediculos
I cant believe people believe the MM Urban legends that get posted on this site.
It is obivous that those that believe the "no celebration" rule have not watched the Machine or Duece play
1) The Machine or Duece players celebrate goals just like any 9-13 year old. The difference comes in a lopsided game. To show respect to your opponent the players do not celebrate the 6th-11th goal in a blow out. Instead the players are coached to quickly skate back to center ice or to the bench for a line change. The players are coached to not showboat, instead to "act like you done it many times before"
2) When a penalty is called ,the player is coached to not question the call, talk to the ref,or shrug their shoulders in the "What did I do" manner. They are to skate hard to the penalty box and not hold up the game.
These simple rules are not uncommon. Allot of teams follow them without the critical commentary from this forum!
Peace
It is obivous that those that believe the "no celebration" rule have not watched the Machine or Duece play
1) The Machine or Duece players celebrate goals just like any 9-13 year old. The difference comes in a lopsided game. To show respect to your opponent the players do not celebrate the 6th-11th goal in a blow out. Instead the players are coached to quickly skate back to center ice or to the bench for a line change. The players are coached to not showboat, instead to "act like you done it many times before"
2) When a penalty is called ,the player is coached to not question the call, talk to the ref,or shrug their shoulders in the "What did I do" manner. They are to skate hard to the penalty box and not hold up the game.
These simple rules are not uncommon. Allot of teams follow them without the critical commentary from this forum!
Peace
MM
Boardmember,
Why did you wait so long?Did you enjoy watching them go on and on about this ridiculous topic?It was about like watching a dog chase it's tail
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Why did you wait so long?Did you enjoy watching them go on and on about this ridiculous topic?It was about like watching a dog chase it's tail
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Truthbehold- Relax! 
I was critical of the 2" letters used for last names. So what? 
If you research my post. I was asking why some teams elect to use last names and some don't. I mentioned one team had small letters on their jerseys. Keep in mind I never disclosed what team it was. Someone else did that for me. Then I chimed in. Who cares? Did I offend you?
As for the celebrating rule? Why would people even care if a team celebrates or not? In Japan youth baseball. The players bow to the umpire out of respect. They never question a bad call. The kids grow up learning total respect. Doesn't bother me.
Watchdog- We're glad you're not part of Minnesota made. My son is having a blast playing in the Mite Choice league. For the record. The kids can celebrate when they score a goal. They're also taught to respect the coaches and other players. Just like kids did back in the day.
One of the newer coaches mentioned: Its nice to have kids that listen and want to learn. So much easier to teach the game".
While you're chasing little Billy and Timmy around the ice. MM is busy teaching the kids how to skate. If chasing kids around the ice is your definition of having fun. More power to you. Have fun!
PEACE!
I was critical of the 2" letters used for last names. So what? If you research my post. I was asking why some teams elect to use last names and some don't. I mentioned one team had small letters on their jerseys. Keep in mind I never disclosed what team it was. Someone else did that for me. Then I chimed in. Who cares? Did I offend you?
As for the celebrating rule? Why would people even care if a team celebrates or not? In Japan youth baseball. The players bow to the umpire out of respect. They never question a bad call. The kids grow up learning total respect. Doesn't bother me.
Watchdog- We're glad you're not part of Minnesota made. My son is having a blast playing in the Mite Choice league.
For the record. The kids can celebrate when they score a goal. They're also taught to respect the coaches and other players. Just like kids did back in the day. One of the newer coaches mentioned: Its nice to have kids that listen and want to learn. So much easier to teach the game".
While you're chasing little Billy and Timmy around the ice. MM is busy teaching the kids how to skate. If chasing kids around the ice is your definition of having fun. More power to you. Have fun!
PEACE!
Life's simple, but some insist on making it hard