FALL LEAGUES

[HOCKEYFREAK]

Fall League Pro's & Con's. Options, CODP, O/S, Showcase. What would you chose & why? i.e. cost value, competition, organization, time conflicts etc.

[Partagas]

The MN Lazers are looking into aputting a team together for a fall league. Which one is the big question.

[joehockey]

Depends on what you want and what else you are doing I suppose? As a Dad here is my read but not sure:

CODP is probably the most expensive but it is most complete - development, strength, good coaching and competition. Development is the clear focus just like in the summer and lots of games with Thoroughbreds, some Canadian teams and it appears they are going out east to a tournament in September.

OS this is a top league for competition with a lower cost - not sure what development or if there are any practices - maybe just games? Coaches are the coaches of the participating AAA teams or schools (Shattuck). A goal is to be fall sport supportive. If you beleive you get better playing games do this.

Showcase - this will be good hockey but not elite - many very good players - perfect for getting your HS team together before the season.

Wakota League - this is a HS based league and the play is usually very good (if the varsity players are there), cost very resaonable and games are freindly to fall sports like soccer. This is also a great league if you are a U14 player trying to decide if you want to tryout or play HS hockey.

[Northland]

Anyone have any info on the Winnie Brodt fall league?

[ghshockeyfan]

Anyone have any info on the Winnie Brodt fall league?

This is the AAA Elite B&A league... I've seen the Fall portion of the schedule - looks outstanding... I see at least these teams on the schedule:

Ice Cats U19
Jr Whitecaps U19
Schwan Blues U19
Walser Blue U19

Shattuck Prep/U19 - 1 game vs each team?
St Croix Saints - 1 game vs each team?

I think there is a U16 component too?

I hope they do a Spring "A" After component leading into the regional/national birth tourney??? Maybe a tourney or something after the HS season ends @ State Tourney but before the regional would be neat too...

[ghshockeyfan]

Another neat opportunity that popped up is a BOYS 4on4 no check league with Elite Bantams playing against Girls HS Elite players... Great tempo for all involved from what I hear...

[Hux]

Depends on what you want and what else you are doing I suppose? As a Dad here is my read but not sure:

CODP is probably the most expensive but it is most complete - development, strength, good coaching and competition. Development is the clear focus just like in the summer and lots of games with Thoroughbreds, some Canadian teams and it appears they are going out east to a tournament in September.

I had a most interesting discussion with BU assistant coach Kerstin Matthews today regarding this very subject. She "vented" about the lack of actual development going on in various parts of the country during the off-season, saying that way to much emphasis is put on showcase and game playing, rather than skating and skills. Her take is that there needs to be more CODP type programs, with a modicum of showcasing, and less emphasis on playing spring summer and fall games at the exclusion of skill and S&C development.

[ghshockeyfan]

IMHO we could use a little less structure in some senses and more "pond hockey." Kids skating is a good thing IMHO whether it's in a league, at a clinic, or on a pond.

It's really sad for me to see expensive rinks sit empty all afternoon many months of the year when we could open them up to create a modern version of the rink rat...

[joehockey]

Here is a great low cost league based on the eastside for girls this fall targeted at HS Girls

3v3 Half Ice Hockey Rules

1. Teams consist of four or five players, three of which are on the ice at a time. Free substitution is allowed.
2. Games are played on a single ½ sheet of ice with one goalie.
3. Games consist of three, 7 min running periods.
4. A coin flip will be held at the start of each game. Winner of the flip will have puck possession at the start of the 1st and 3rd periods
5. The red center ice line is out of bounds. If the puck touches or crosses this line, it will be awarded opposite the team that touched it last.
6. The puck must be cleared outside the blue line with each change in possession. The referee will signal the offensive/defensive change and allow the attacking team five (5) seconds of free time in the neutral zone. The offensive team must re-enter the offensive zone within this 5-second period or loss of possession will occur. During this time all attacking players must tag up in the neutral zone(one skate outside blue line). Once touching up they may re-enter the attacking zone. No offside rule is in effect. The referee will stop play if a player fails to tag up and actively joins the play. Defensive players cannot force the play in the neutral zone during the 5-second free period. One warning will be giving for this infraction. The second occurrence will result in a penalty.
7. If the defensive team fails to legally clear the puck and resumes play on the attack, the play will immediately be blown dead and the puck awarded to the other team.
8. If an uncontrolled puck crosses the blue line into the neutral zone, control of the puck will be awarded to the first team to touch the puck. The referee will award the puck and start count on the 5-second free time.
9. A team which leaves the neutral zone and then re enters it to delay play will be warned by the referee and then on subsequent infractions will lose possession of the puck.
10. The puck may not be shot on net from the neutral zone (outside the blue line).
11. When the goalie freezes the puck resulting in a stoppage in play, possession will be awarded to the defensive team in the neutral zone.
12. Play will be stopped on a penalty. In the case of a penalty, the puck will be awarded in the neutral zone to the non-offending team. Every subsequent penalty charged to the same team, in that period, will result in the penalized player having to rotate out of the play. Their place will be taken by one of their bench players. A team will forfeit any game in which they commit eight penalties.
13. No body checking is allowed. Any body checking will result in a penalty.
14. Zero tolerance will be strictly enforced. Any player ejected for fighting, vulgarity, etc. will result in the entire team being disqualified from the game.
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[ghshockeyfan]

Here is a great low cost league based on the eastside for girls this fall targeted at HS Girls

3v3 Half Ice Hockey Rules

1. Teams consist of four or five players, three of which are on the ice at a time. Free substitution is allowed.
2. Games are played on a single ½ sheet of ice with one goalie.
3. Games consist of three, 7 min running periods.
4. A coin flip will be held at the start of each game. Winner of the flip will have puck possession at the start of the 1st and 3rd periods
5. The red center ice line is out of bounds. If the puck touches or crosses this line, it will be awarded opposite the team that touched it last.
6. The puck must be cleared outside the blue line with each change in possession. The referee will signal the offensive/defensive change and allow the attacking team five (5) seconds of free time in the neutral zone. The offensive team must re-enter the offensive zone within this 5-second period or loss of possession will occur. During this time all attacking players must tag up in the neutral zone(one skate outside blue line). Once touching up they may re-enter the attacking zone. No offside rule is in effect. The referee will stop play if a player fails to tag up and actively joins the play. Defensive players cannot force the play in the neutral zone during the 5-second free period. One warning will be giving for this infraction. The second occurrence will result in a penalty.
7. If the defensive team fails to legally clear the puck and resumes play on the attack, the play will immediately be blown dead and the puck awarded to the other team.
8. If an uncontrolled puck crosses the blue line into the neutral zone, control of the puck will be awarded to the first team to touch the puck. The referee will award the puck and start count on the 5-second free time.
9. A team which leaves the neutral zone and then re enters it to delay play will be warned by the referee and then on subsequent infractions will lose possession of the puck.
10. The puck may not be shot on net from the neutral zone (outside the blue line).
11. When the goalie freezes the puck resulting in a stoppage in play, possession will be awarded to the defensive team in the neutral zone.
12. Play will be stopped on a penalty. In the case of a penalty, the puck will be awarded in the neutral zone to the non-offending team. Every subsequent penalty charged to the same team, in that period, will result in the penalized player having to rotate out of the play. Their place will be taken by one of their bench players. A team will forfeit any game in which they commit eight penalties.
13. No body checking is allowed. Any body checking will result in a penalty.
14. Zero tolerance will be strictly enforced. Any player ejected for fighting, vulgarity, etc. will result in the entire team being disqualified from the game.
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This reminds me of a practice item we run for fun & the kids love it...

[WillWork4Hockey]

I agree wholeheartedly that the "off-season" needs to include a lot of skills development. However, after 3+ months of skills..i.e. STP, CODP, OS, NDP, this camp, that camp, etc.....as a parent, I am ready to watch a little hockey! I think the girls are too. I'd like a little taste of if all the money I spent this summer will translate into an improved game on the ice from my kids. If a fall league is used for fun, to get the "game" piece back b-4 the "real" season starts, and doesn't work just skill development, I'm ok with that.

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[Northland]

Here are the teams in a fall league that starts in September.

Shattuck U16
OS Extreme
Ice Cats U16
Walser White U16
St. Croix Saints

[ghshockeyfan]

Here are the teams in a fall league that starts in September.

Shattuck U16
OS Extreme
Ice Cats U16
Walser White U16
St. Croix Saints

This is a partial list as there is some crossover play with the 19 level for some teams in this group.