To watch Ford at the plate, is very depressing
Time after time, another memory worth repressing
Having Rondell back, would be great to see
But only if he's not swinging, like Terry Tiffee
If small ball is fine, better pitching we'll need
The Twins need Radke, but he's gone to seed
Lets get some runs, Cuz Silva will start
We'll need some poop, not just the fart
Six games out, is only three pair
There's still some time, to go on a tear
Don't wait for full health, lets do it sooner
Lets start today, the finale's a nooner
Twins 29-29, All Square & Ready To Go On A Tear
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Packer asks where did the magic go,
It hasn't gone anywhere, as it is yet to show.
Win one then lose one seems to be their game,
This can't last forever, as nothing stays the same.
Neut says there's time to still go on a tear,
And right he will be until the State Fair.
But before we get to that food on a stick,
We're down four to the Jays and my stomach feels sick.
They hit homeruns and score in a flash,
We get basehits as Carl sits on his cash.
We're coming to bat so I have to go,
With Burnett throwing this will be a tough row to hoe.
It hasn't gone anywhere, as it is yet to show.
Win one then lose one seems to be their game,
This can't last forever, as nothing stays the same.
Neut says there's time to still go on a tear,
And right he will be until the State Fair.
But before we get to that food on a stick,
We're down four to the Jays and my stomach feels sick.
They hit homeruns and score in a flash,
We get basehits as Carl sits on his cash.
We're coming to bat so I have to go,
With Burnett throwing this will be a tough row to hoe.
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SI AGREES. SIGN HUNTER!
AL Central: A three-team race
By Joe Lemire
The Tigers roared through interleague play, winning eight of their last nine to take first place in the American League Central.
The Indians struggled mightily against the National League, losing a series to always woeful Washington and to suddenly woeful Atlanta.
The White Sox have lost 22 of 28, with general manager Kenny Williams promising that "change is going to happen," insinuating that a fire sale is imminent.
And the Royals still have that vote for a seventh-inning stretch song.
All kidding about Kansas City aside -- it does boast both Arthur Bryant's and Gates barbecue, after all -- it's the Twins, plodding along in third place with a 5-5 record in their last 10, who are the division's most interesting team.
Minnesota has certainly not been devoid of headlines. Reigning MVP first baseman Justin Morneau violently collided with Marlins catcher Miguel Olivo on Saturday. Morneau suffered a bruised lung, spat out blood and spent three days in a Florida hospital. Don't worry, though, he reportedly could play by Thursday.
Manager Ron Gardenhire offered catcher Joe Mauer a reprieve from playing behind the plate in the hot Florida sun to fill in for Morneau at first. Mauer's fantastic response? "Uhhhh. Uh, I'd rather catch." So he did. And then hit two home runs.
The timing is a little peculiar, but Mauer even gained ink in the New York Times this week, just a perspective piece of how Mauer could have played quarterback at Florida State and could be entering his second season of the NFL right now.
Then there's the not-so-little matter of Johan Santana. The familiar refrain this spring of "What's wrong with Johan" was sung all month. A traditionally slow starter to the season, he's 20-16 in his career in April and May but, entering this season, was a blistering 16-4 with a 2.76 ERA in June. Whispers of problems grew louder when he lost his first two starts of the month and received a no decision in his third, even though he yielded a very respectable seven earned runs in 20 innings during that stretch. The problem, you see, is that he wasn't dominating.
His last two starts, however, squelched that crazy talk. Santana needed just 92 pitches and one strikeout to toss a complete-game shutout over the Mets and then pitched another gem (6 IP, 1 ER, 8 K) against Florida. He also pounded a pair of extra-base hits in those wins.
Here's the bottom line: As noted Minnesota blogger Aaron Gleeman pointed out yesterday at the end of this post, the Twins were 38-35 record through 73 games -- the exact same record they were at the same juncture of last season. The difference is the play at the top: Minnesota is now only 6.5 games behind division leader Detroit, rather than the 11 games they trailed a season ago. The Twins lost last night to fall to 38-36 but remain only 6.5 back.
Because of that, the Twins need to think long and hard about Torii Hunter. Though I understand that "on pace" are famous last words, Minnesota's center fielder is on pace for the best offensive season of his career, with a .306 BA, .353 OBP, 15 HR and 57 RBIs and still seven games until the season’s midpoint.
In his contract year and likely to play elsewhere after the season, Hunter could command a huge premium at the trading deadline. And while the Twins have done well in the past trading more established players for young talent – most famously, the preposterous 2003 trade of A.J. Pierzynski to the Giants for Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano and Boof Bonser -- they'd be best served holding onto Hunter. As the Star-Tribune's Joe Christiansen argues, this is the time to get miserly owner Carl Pohlad to dip into his considerable savings and splurge on an extension for Hunter.
After all, Santana is dominating again and Minnesota is within striking distance of the top with half a season to play -- the Twins are right where they want to be.
AL Central: A three-team race
By Joe Lemire
The Tigers roared through interleague play, winning eight of their last nine to take first place in the American League Central.
The Indians struggled mightily against the National League, losing a series to always woeful Washington and to suddenly woeful Atlanta.
The White Sox have lost 22 of 28, with general manager Kenny Williams promising that "change is going to happen," insinuating that a fire sale is imminent.
And the Royals still have that vote for a seventh-inning stretch song.
All kidding about Kansas City aside -- it does boast both Arthur Bryant's and Gates barbecue, after all -- it's the Twins, plodding along in third place with a 5-5 record in their last 10, who are the division's most interesting team.
Minnesota has certainly not been devoid of headlines. Reigning MVP first baseman Justin Morneau violently collided with Marlins catcher Miguel Olivo on Saturday. Morneau suffered a bruised lung, spat out blood and spent three days in a Florida hospital. Don't worry, though, he reportedly could play by Thursday.
Manager Ron Gardenhire offered catcher Joe Mauer a reprieve from playing behind the plate in the hot Florida sun to fill in for Morneau at first. Mauer's fantastic response? "Uhhhh. Uh, I'd rather catch." So he did. And then hit two home runs.
The timing is a little peculiar, but Mauer even gained ink in the New York Times this week, just a perspective piece of how Mauer could have played quarterback at Florida State and could be entering his second season of the NFL right now.
Then there's the not-so-little matter of Johan Santana. The familiar refrain this spring of "What's wrong with Johan" was sung all month. A traditionally slow starter to the season, he's 20-16 in his career in April and May but, entering this season, was a blistering 16-4 with a 2.76 ERA in June. Whispers of problems grew louder when he lost his first two starts of the month and received a no decision in his third, even though he yielded a very respectable seven earned runs in 20 innings during that stretch. The problem, you see, is that he wasn't dominating.
His last two starts, however, squelched that crazy talk. Santana needed just 92 pitches and one strikeout to toss a complete-game shutout over the Mets and then pitched another gem (6 IP, 1 ER, 8 K) against Florida. He also pounded a pair of extra-base hits in those wins.
Here's the bottom line: As noted Minnesota blogger Aaron Gleeman pointed out yesterday at the end of this post, the Twins were 38-35 record through 73 games -- the exact same record they were at the same juncture of last season. The difference is the play at the top: Minnesota is now only 6.5 games behind division leader Detroit, rather than the 11 games they trailed a season ago. The Twins lost last night to fall to 38-36 but remain only 6.5 back.
Because of that, the Twins need to think long and hard about Torii Hunter. Though I understand that "on pace" are famous last words, Minnesota's center fielder is on pace for the best offensive season of his career, with a .306 BA, .353 OBP, 15 HR and 57 RBIs and still seven games until the season’s midpoint.
In his contract year and likely to play elsewhere after the season, Hunter could command a huge premium at the trading deadline. And while the Twins have done well in the past trading more established players for young talent – most famously, the preposterous 2003 trade of A.J. Pierzynski to the Giants for Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano and Boof Bonser -- they'd be best served holding onto Hunter. As the Star-Tribune's Joe Christiansen argues, this is the time to get miserly owner Carl Pohlad to dip into his considerable savings and splurge on an extension for Hunter.
After all, Santana is dominating again and Minnesota is within striking distance of the top with half a season to play -- the Twins are right where they want to be.
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Re-sign Hunter, don't be dunce,
Don't make me ask you more than once.
Without him, this team would be done,
Give him the dough to be our newest favorite son.
His glove is still great and his bat has come of age,
Don't take it from me, go hear it from a sage.
Stop messing around and extend him today,
Don't give another team a chance to overpay.
Don't make me ask you more than once.
Without him, this team would be done,
Give him the dough to be our newest favorite son.
His glove is still great and his bat has come of age,
Don't take it from me, go hear it from a sage.
Stop messing around and extend him today,
Don't give another team a chance to overpay.
We used sign Hunter as a subliminal gag
We dont want to whine and sound like a nag
But without him in center this team has no chance
Sign him and a hitter, lets go to the dance
If they want to save money they'll get none of mine
If Hunter is gone, their seats aren't worth a dime
He is the face of the franchise, sorry big Joe
Keep him and us as fans, its only a little dough
We dont want to whine and sound like a nag
But without him in center this team has no chance
Sign him and a hitter, lets go to the dance
If they want to save money they'll get none of mine
If Hunter is gone, their seats aren't worth a dime
He is the face of the franchise, sorry big Joe
Keep him and us as fans, its only a little dough
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Irishmans Shanty
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Thanks to Cuddyer and Co., the Twins have finally returned to five over, their high water mark for this season. Sweeps are rare, especially on the road against quality teams. With 83 games left a win will mean nothing and a loss will mean the same, however it would be nice to see them reach a new plateau and continue to build through July.
It's too early to watch the standings but not too early to know how many .500 they are over.
It's too early to watch the standings but not too early to know how many .500 they are over.
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After the completion of tonight's game the Twins will be halfway home, 81 down, 81 to go. As of today the Twins are +4. I feel the Twins need to get to +22 to reach the post-season. If they lose tonight, they would need to go 50-31 down the stretch to get to 92 wins. Can they do it? Yes, but three things will need to unfold for it to happen.
1) They need to win a whole lot more at home, 22-20 is unacceptable, they need 2 of 3 and few sweeps from here on out.
2) Continue to play well on the road, right now they are +2, get that to +7 by the end of the year.
3) Beat their competition, I'm forgetting CLE for now, the competition is DET (9 games remain), SEA (6), NY (4), OAK (4). All wins are needed but beating these teams head to head guarantees a loss for the Wild Card contenders.
This weekend was a good start, in the standings and between the ears. Now it is off to NY for 4, to CHI for 4, and 4 big ones at home with Oakland coming out of the break. If they can win 9 of those it will mean they've won 17 of 24 and the Tear will be on.
1) They need to win a whole lot more at home, 22-20 is unacceptable, they need 2 of 3 and few sweeps from here on out.
2) Continue to play well on the road, right now they are +2, get that to +7 by the end of the year.
3) Beat their competition, I'm forgetting CLE for now, the competition is DET (9 games remain), SEA (6), NY (4), OAK (4). All wins are needed but beating these teams head to head guarantees a loss for the Wild Card contenders.
This weekend was a good start, in the standings and between the ears. Now it is off to NY for 4, to CHI for 4, and 4 big ones at home with Oakland coming out of the break. If they can win 9 of those it will mean they've won 17 of 24 and the Tear will be on.
Chicago for 4... doubleheader on Friday. Which adds even more to the "between the ears" part of the equation - 9 games in 8 days. Suck it up fellas, there's some rest for most of you in a week, no let up until then.Irishmans Shanty wrote:This weekend was a good start, in the standings and between the ears. Now it is off to NY for 4, to CHI for 3, and 4 big ones at home with Oakland coming out of the break.
Whoops, already beat me to it with your correction... both of our points still stand though!Govs93 wrote:Chicago for 4... doubleheader on Friday. Which adds even more to the "between the ears" part of the equation - 9 games in 8 days. Suck it up fellas, there's some rest for most of you in a week, no let up until then.Irishmans Shanty wrote:This weekend was a good start, in the standings and between the ears. Now it is off to NY for 4, to CHI for 3, and 4 big ones at home with Oakland coming out of the break.
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Nobody in my AL Wild Card mix won last night.... well, except for the team that the Twins can inflict personal damage on should they decide not to be overwealmed by an underwealming team playing in an overwealming stadium for a franchise with an overwealming history.
Come on, hit the Boofin ball and play with some confidence and moxy against NY, everyone seems to do it.
Come on, hit the Boofin ball and play with some confidence and moxy against NY, everyone seems to do it.
Yikes, 1 run in the past 18 innings, if you go back to Saturday, it's 1 run in 21 innings and that 1 run was a gimme by the Yankees as they conceded the run for the out. The Twins have no one hitting over .300 after Mauer dropped to .299 after his 0 for 2 evening.
Nick Punto is hitting .205, where the heck is Glenn Williams? Tight old Carl won't bring him up because of 40 man roster restrictions, but Geez Louise how much longer can the Twins keep putting his feeble bat out there? Cirillo can't play defense and with little pop his .265 average is nearly worthless, dump him and clear room on the 40 man for Williams. He's not the answer but at least he's an attempt at something.
While I'm ranting; it's time for Boof to go to the pen, the Twins bullpen will get killed if they have to bail him out all the time. He hasn't had a quality start since May 29th and only had 4 in 17 starts. His June ERA was 6.91 and it shows no signs of improvement 1 start into July. When he hits the wall he really hits the wall. Rincon didn't have enough time to get warm and it showed. Give Garza a shot or possibly see if Ortiz has it figured out. Have Boof run some laps, he's out of shape and looks more like he should be in a softball league than the Major leagues.
Nick Punto is hitting .205, where the heck is Glenn Williams? Tight old Carl won't bring him up because of 40 man roster restrictions, but Geez Louise how much longer can the Twins keep putting his feeble bat out there? Cirillo can't play defense and with little pop his .265 average is nearly worthless, dump him and clear room on the 40 man for Williams. He's not the answer but at least he's an attempt at something.
While I'm ranting; it's time for Boof to go to the pen, the Twins bullpen will get killed if they have to bail him out all the time. He hasn't had a quality start since May 29th and only had 4 in 17 starts. His June ERA was 6.91 and it shows no signs of improvement 1 start into July. When he hits the wall he really hits the wall. Rincon didn't have enough time to get warm and it showed. Give Garza a shot or possibly see if Ortiz has it figured out. Have Boof run some laps, he's out of shape and looks more like he should be in a softball league than the Major leagues.
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I hear ya Goldy.
It is hard to tell if the Twins are on the brink of a strong finish- or if they are going in the tank.
They are either a good team who can go in and take 2 of 3 from Detroit, or a subpar team who can make the Yankees look like the Yankees of old.
I still love the Twins- but this is gonna have to be a HUGE second half of the season.
Now the Yankees are gonna think they can play.
Some things just never change.
It is hard to tell if the Twins are on the brink of a strong finish- or if they are going in the tank.
They are either a good team who can go in and take 2 of 3 from Detroit, or a subpar team who can make the Yankees look like the Yankees of old.
I still love the Twins- but this is gonna have to be a HUGE second half of the season.
Now the Yankees are gonna think they can play.
Some things just never change.
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Perhaps its fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution -- but from annihilation.
We're fighting for our right to live, to exist.
And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the Twins declared in one voice:
"We will not go quietly into the night!
We will not vanish without a fight!
We're going to live on!
We're going to survive!"
Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
NOW HIT THE BOOFIN' BALL!!!
We're fighting for our right to live, to exist.
And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the Twins declared in one voice:
"We will not go quietly into the night!
We will not vanish without a fight!
We're going to live on!
We're going to survive!"
Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
NOW HIT THE BOOFIN' BALL!!!
Hard to go on a TEAR when you are 22-20 at home. Whats up with that?
The road record is good but the home record is awful for a contender.
7.5 back of Cleveland and 5.5 out of the wild card.
I think we are starting to get to a fork in the road where they ether have to start winning every series for a while and go out and win 15 of 20 or forget about it.
Playing .500 ball is fine for a stretch but now the boys need to get hot or they will find themselves too far behind.
Lets go.
The road record is good but the home record is awful for a contender.
7.5 back of Cleveland and 5.5 out of the wild card.
I think we are starting to get to a fork in the road where they ether have to start winning every series for a while and go out and win 15 of 20 or forget about it.
Playing .500 ball is fine for a stretch but now the boys need to get hot or they will find themselves too far behind.
Lets go.
Here's my 2 part plan to get the Twins over the hump:
Trade Morneau to the Yankees for Cabrerra, Wang and some prospects. Upside - Cabrerra is better than anyone the Twins have trotted out to LF the past few seasons, Wang is a legit number 2 starter with the Twins but can't be with the names New York has. Combined Cabrerra and Wang make just a tic under 1 million, Morneau makes 4.5 million. Morneau is coming up on another contract year and stands to get a hefty raise, the Yankees are desperate for 1B help and will overpay for that help. Drawbacks - It leaves the Twins with a gaping hole at 1B and lessens the power of a team with little power anyhow.
Trade 1 of the group of Garza, Baker, Slowey, along with Bonser or Silva to Cincinnati for Alex Gonzalez (3.5 million) and Scott Hatteberg (1.5). Hatteberg is 38 and fills the immediate void at first without saddleing the Twins with a huge contract. His numbers are decent .302 with 7 HR's and strikes out very rarely. Gonzalez has a less than stellar average at .258 but has good power 13 HR's and 40 RBI, play him at 3rd or SS and move Barlett to 3rd and relieve Punto of his duties. The Reds pitching is next to last in the NL, the team is going no where and they're probably sellers.
This plan does cost the Twins a lot in Morneau but is close to revenue neutral while substantially upgrading the Twins at LF, SS-3B, and in starting pitching. Hatteberg and Gonzalez combined are putting up stats equal to or better than Morneau at the same price and gives the Twins 2 good solid bats instead of 1.
It gives the Twins a potential line up of 1)Castillo 2) Mauer 3) Cuddy 4) Gonzalez 5) Hunter 6) Hatteberg 7) Cabrerra
Redman 9) Bartlett. A starting rotation of 1) Santana 2) Wang 3-5) some combination of Slowey, Silva, Bonser, Garza, and Baker. Both the line up and starting piching would be improved over what the Twins are doing now while being revenue neutral thereby allowing the Twins to potentailly still be buyers come the trading deadline.
Trade Morneau to the Yankees for Cabrerra, Wang and some prospects. Upside - Cabrerra is better than anyone the Twins have trotted out to LF the past few seasons, Wang is a legit number 2 starter with the Twins but can't be with the names New York has. Combined Cabrerra and Wang make just a tic under 1 million, Morneau makes 4.5 million. Morneau is coming up on another contract year and stands to get a hefty raise, the Yankees are desperate for 1B help and will overpay for that help. Drawbacks - It leaves the Twins with a gaping hole at 1B and lessens the power of a team with little power anyhow.
Trade 1 of the group of Garza, Baker, Slowey, along with Bonser or Silva to Cincinnati for Alex Gonzalez (3.5 million) and Scott Hatteberg (1.5). Hatteberg is 38 and fills the immediate void at first without saddleing the Twins with a huge contract. His numbers are decent .302 with 7 HR's and strikes out very rarely. Gonzalez has a less than stellar average at .258 but has good power 13 HR's and 40 RBI, play him at 3rd or SS and move Barlett to 3rd and relieve Punto of his duties. The Reds pitching is next to last in the NL, the team is going no where and they're probably sellers.
This plan does cost the Twins a lot in Morneau but is close to revenue neutral while substantially upgrading the Twins at LF, SS-3B, and in starting pitching. Hatteberg and Gonzalez combined are putting up stats equal to or better than Morneau at the same price and gives the Twins 2 good solid bats instead of 1.
It gives the Twins a potential line up of 1)Castillo 2) Mauer 3) Cuddy 4) Gonzalez 5) Hunter 6) Hatteberg 7) Cabrerra
Redman 9) Bartlett. A starting rotation of 1) Santana 2) Wang 3-5) some combination of Slowey, Silva, Bonser, Garza, and Baker. Both the line up and starting piching would be improved over what the Twins are doing now while being revenue neutral thereby allowing the Twins to potentailly still be buyers come the trading deadline.are you serious?
ok why would you want to lose the MVP? Answer me that. he'll hit 35 homers a year and drive in 100+ rbi where cabera will hit 20 at most. and wang is good but we dont need pitching that bad. we got santana silva is doing good with an era in the mid 4s and boof will come around. and also why would u take hatteaberg or how ever you spell it. you said hes 38. thats exactly why you wouldnt take him. he'll play 3 more years and be done. that not what the twins do. they develop young guys in the minors and bring them up liek bartlett garza etc.
ok why would you want to lose the MVP? Answer me that. he'll hit 35 homers a year and drive in 100+ rbi where cabera will hit 20 at most. and wang is good but we dont need pitching that bad. we got santana silva is doing good with an era in the mid 4s and boof will come around. and also why would u take hatteaberg or how ever you spell it. you said hes 38. thats exactly why you wouldnt take him. he'll play 3 more years and be done. that not what the twins do. they develop young guys in the minors and bring them up liek bartlett garza etc.
What Goldy is proposing is that the Twins sacrifice the talent of Morneau to get some depth and there is merit to that thought. As the team stands now they've made it through half the season and are a few games over .500. They have gaping holes at third base and left field and a thin lineup and they need a jump start, like Liriano gave them last year.
The real question is whether the Twins want to make a move this year. My thought is that they may be in a better position next year with Liriano back and the young arms a year older. It might be better for the Twins to stand pat this year and make a move next year.
The real question is whether the Twins want to make a move this year. My thought is that they may be in a better position next year with Liriano back and the young arms a year older. It might be better for the Twins to stand pat this year and make a move next year.
I think the series that starts today (where the hell is the thread bob?!?!) is going to go a long way toward determining whether the Twins or going to buy or sell. If they go out and get pounded while the Tigers and Indians do well, we may start counting the hours until Torii gets on a plane and heads to the Cubs (or something of the like).
Odds are, it won't be a hasty decision, but if they drop 3 out of 4 again before the break, you can probably count on that series against Detroit from 7/17 - 7/19 to be the final step before deciding to pull the plug or not.
Odds are, it won't be a hasty decision, but if they drop 3 out of 4 again before the break, you can probably count on that series against Detroit from 7/17 - 7/19 to be the final step before deciding to pull the plug or not.
I agree, but what makes you think that the Twins will buy? They never have. Don Baylor was the last name player they brought in and the reality was he did nothing for them aside from a crucial at bat in the post season. He hit .286 with no HR's and 6 RBI in 20 games, his SLG was an apalling .306 They have to get depth somewhere. The Twins have no postion players worth a salt in AAA, the cupboard is already bare. The only way to improve might be to trade away some talent in return for depth.packerboy wrote:The team doesnt have the depth to make a trade.
They need to buy.
There was a story in the New York Post on the 4th quoting Santana's agent as saying they expect Santana to get 25 million per season on his next contract, the Twins won't pay him that . Hunter is probably gone after this season Santana after next season. This is the time to make a push, the window is closing fast. The Twins could lose 100 games the next 2 seasons and no one will care because of the new park.
Fact: The Twins have 1 guy signed into the 2010 season when the new ballpark opens. The Pohlad family knows that the new park will sell out for at least 2 seasons even if the product the Twins trot out on the field couldn't beat the Saints. My opinion: Carl will bank his money, pay this team next to nothing over the next 4+ seasons then try to sell the Twins at a huge profit by 2012, the stadium will be his legacy not the pathetic product that will be put on the field.
agreed. the twins need guys liek reyes and bartlett and punto (big time) and especially rincon to step it up in the 2nd half. the twins are a very good team with guys like mauer morneau santana hunter castillo cuddyer etc. but the role players need to step it up. getting 2 out hits with guys in scoring position will be a huge factor. punto needs to hit about 270 in the second half to help. when he makes plays liek he did in game 4 agaisnt the yankes u can afford to hit a little worse but 200 is brutal. also slowey needs to limit the homeruns! hes averaging over one homer per start.