Wait Until Lent

AngusYoung · Post by **AngusYoung** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:08 pm

Isn't this the cafe? Thought so, any topic is fair game as this thread CLEARLY shows. BIAFP has asked several times where these "phantom" communities are and I pointed out to him that if you check closely, and with rose-colored glasses, you will find them.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:20 pm

Oh well why didnt you say so. Cretin Derham Hall is just a little south and east of Centennial but further south of North Metro.

But its no where near the towns of Cloquet/ Esko / Carlton nor Brainerd/ Pillager/Pierz.

I do know however that at least when you play CDH, you are playing against kids who all go to the same school.

Does that help? I sure hope so.

hockeyfamily · Post by **hockeyfamily** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:20 pm

I read this board about once a week and don't usually post on it, but while reading it today I received 4 calls in a row. My youngest son's private Catholic school has put together a couple of showcase teams for the 3rd and 4th graders. Each team was just about filled with kids from the school the day it was announced. Well word must have spread around the local association and I just had 4 parents call asking if I could get their kid on my son's Catholic team. After talking to the parents I thought to myself maybe I should ask BIAFP's permission for local association boys to play on the Catholic team. I don't know if they'll go to Catholic high school or not. BIAFP you seem to know what is best for everyone elses kids. What should I do?

Packerboy- Thanks for the lent thread. The whole family has enjoyed it!

BIAFP · Post by **BIAFP** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:21 pm

Packerboy,

First of all "The Don" is no friend of mine and I do not agree with a lot of things he says or does.

Second, you have to realize that things are much different in outstate than they are in the cities. Kids in Roseau don't really have a lot of options as to where they will go to High School so they really grow up representing a community and take an enormous amount of pride in that. Yes they are very fortunate to grow up playing in city and school district owned arenas without paying for ice time directly. That is a contribution those taxpayers are willing to make for "their" youth.

BIAFP · Post by **BIAFP** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:29 pm

[quote="hockeyfamily"]I read this board about once a week and don't usually post on it, but while reading it today I received 4 calls in a row. My youngest son's private Catholic school has put together a couple of showcase teams for the 3rd and 4th graders. Each team was just about filled with kids from the school the day it was announced. Well word must have spread around the local association and I just had 4 parents call asking if I could get their kid on my son's Catholic team. After talking to the parents I thought to myself maybe I should ask BIAFP's permission for local association boys to play on the Catholic team. I don't know if they'll go to Catholic high school or not. BIAFP you seem to know what is best for everyone elses kids. What should I do?

Get personal financial statements from the parents to see if they have the right financial status before allowing them into the "elite group"

I went to a Catholic grade school as well, my community just didn't have a Catholic High School

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:33 pm

I realize things are different outstate. Things are different in the cities. Catholic schools are different than Private schools, which are diffrent than Public schools , which are different than Coop schools, which are different than Open schools.

Stop imposing your type of school on me and other Catholics.

Stop imposing your bigotry on my kids.

Stop your disrespect and disparaging the skill, hard work and success of others because thay are structered differently than you. They beat you because they were better that time and for no other reason.

I dont think the people of Roseau would feel the satisfaction they must feel today if they had the loser attitude the phobics on this board display.

BIAFP · Post by **BIAFP** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:46 pm

Because someone supports Northern Minnesota High School Hockey does not make them a phobic or bigot, These small communities do not have the luxury of being large enough to have a Catholic High School. Public school is the only option if you live in Roseau, Warroad, I. Falls, Hibbing , Eveleth, Brainerd, Virginia or Grand Rapids. Not having options of a private education does not make them any less Christian. And yes little Roseau High School with a enrollment of 225 kids should be very proud.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:16 pm

hockeyfamily, glad you enjoy it but join in more.

BIAFP, Be as big a northern hockey fan as you want. But when children's accomplishments on or off the playing surface are publically degraded because thay dont go to what somebody else thinks is the right kind of school, packerboy will be there.

BIAFP · Post by **BIAFP** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:27 pm

I can hear droves of posters running for shelter already

hockeyfamily · Post by **hockeyfamily** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:29 pm

[quote]I went to a Catholic grade school as well, my community just didn't have a Catholic High School [/quote]

BIAFP I think I finally see where you are coming from. You have such bitterness towards private schools now because you didn't have a CHOICE in which high school you attended. I'm sorry about that! All kids should have a CHOICE in which school they attend.
You should try to find a way to let go of all the anger you have towards kids who make the CHOICE to attend the school they feel is the best fit for them be it public, private, Catholic or OE.

BIAFP · Post by **BIAFP** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:44 pm

hockeyfamily wrote:
I went to a Catholic grade school as well, my community just didn't have a Catholic High School
BIAFP I think I finally see where you are coming from. You have such bitterness towards private schools now because you didn't have a CHOICE in which high school you attended. I'm sorry about that! All kids should have a CHOICE in which school they attend.
You should try to find a way to let go of all the anger you have towards kids who make the CHOICE to attend the school they feel is the best fit for them be it public, private, Catholic or OE.

I have absolutely no bitterness towards Catholic Schools or the kids that are fortunate enough to attend them whatsoever, never have and never will.

And welcome to the "bored" hockeyfamily!

Can't Never Tried · Post by **Can't Never Tried** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:24 pm

Well I had tons a fun on this thread...I mean where else could you have seen a two headed turtle.....

As for Catholic/public it was proven this year that it really doesn't matter anyway so what's the problem...?

I am a public school supporter but not to the extent to limit someone elses freedom to choose what's best for them...that's what this country is all about, I wouldn't want someone telling me I had to go to a Private school either.
I get to say I'm a religious person who believes in community, and PB gets to believe you can create your own community of people with like values that want God as the corner stone of the school. (IMO a good thing.)"To each his own"

The thing I dislike the most about this new rule is that if you are in a situation in which it becomes unfair for the student, where the coach, or AD has the ability to destroy their HS hockey years thru discrimination , you should be able to leave unpenalized...and I believe that is exactly what the appeals process is for.

I kinda wonder if the MSHSL gurus are scratching there heads after this tourney thinking what was all the fuss about.

Just keeping this thread alive

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:50 pm

Well CNT, Thoreau once said "any fool can make a rule and any fool will mind it. "

The Roseau win points out the fact that much of what we have been dealing with is phobia.

But the fear of a child transferring schools is just too much for some to overcome.

We will see how it all shakes out.

BIAFP · Post by **BIAFP** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:02 pm

And just to clarify...............the transfer rule says nothing about kids not being able to transfer as often as they would like. They can transfer to any and all schools they choose, even five times per year. It is truly a great option for students

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:25 pm

BIAFP wrote:And just to clarify...............the transfer rule says nothing about kids not being able to transfer as often as they would like. They can transfer to any and all schools they choose, even five times per year. It is truly a great option for students

$\:D/$

Well stated BIAFP

the only bigotry I read was spewed by packerboy.
He has done, in my eyes, more harm for the catholic faith than he has done good. I'm glad that he is strong in his catholic beliefs and that he and not I have to live with them.

Ankles Pierre, Jr. · Post by **Ankles Pierre, Jr.** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:00 pm

BIAFP wrote:I have absolutely no bitterness towards Catholic Schools or the kids that are fortunate enough to attend them whatsoever, never have and never will.

BIAFP actually wrote:TIME AND PLACE PEE WEE?

Keep talkin trash Pee Wee Pierre.......you have no idea who you are messing with little man

See you tonight.....look for a 6'3'' guy dressed in XXXL Orange Sweatshirt that reads Pioneer EXTERMINATOR... Maybe we can step out between periods and play a little catch....

Ankles Pierre, Jr. wrote:BIAFP's Friday night no-show at the Coliseum should prove just WHO is the XXXL-sized SISSY!
Too far to drive for a LIGHT workout....

I have absolutely no bitterness towards Catholic Schools or the kids that are fortunate enough to attend them whatsoever, never have and never will.

Fear of Ankles Pierre converts yet another Pagan!

BIAFP · Post by **BIAFP** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:55 am

tomASS wrote:
BIAFP wrote:And just to clarify...............the transfer rule says nothing about kids not being able to transfer as often as they would like. They can transfer to any and all schools they choose, even five times per year. It is truly a great option for students
$\:D/$

Well stated BIAFP

the only bigotry I read was spewed by packerboy.
He has done, in my eyes, more harm for the catholic faith than he has done good. I'm glad that he is strong in his catholic beliefs and that he and not I have to live with them.

Be careful not to disagree with "The World According to Packerboy" or he will call you names to tear you down. He is always right and everyone else is wrong, just ask him

TTpuckster · Post by **TTpuckster** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:31 am

Hey PB,

Gettin' kinda nasty in here.

Maybe you should take my advice and close this one up and start a new one called "Wait until Next Year".
The MO of all teams that didn't make it to the big dance.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:40 am

No BIAFP, not everybody else is wrong.

Only those blinded by their bigotry.

There are many here on the board and elsewhere who can cope with the idea that not all schools have to be structered the same to have good athletic competition between them.

Others, because of their phobia, struggle with that... as we can see.

Ankles Pierre, Jr. · Post by **Ankles Pierre, Jr.** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:05 am

BIAFP wrote:It was so refreshing to hear both Championshiip coaches say how proud they were to win with "their own kids", it was about the communities that embraced them, they represented the same community from mites through high school. Congratulations to two "Home Grown" Champions!

Star Tribune writer (whose own family benefited from OE and yet wants to limit others) wrote:"To me it's real simple," said Oliver [himself a transplant from CANADA!] "Players need to be loyal to their school, to their community and to their program."

It is amazing how well bigotry and hypocrisy compliment each other!

In fairness to Packerboy, he has never asserted that "He is always right"
(only about Ankles Pierre do wise and reverent posters make such claims)!

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:26 pm

They do go together well.

This country was built by people who left the tyranny of Eruopean dictators who would not allow them to practice their religion of choice.

So too does the Catholic hockey player of today seek to escape the tryanny of the secular humanist Kwanzaa crowd who ban religion in the schools.

For this the children and their families are maligned and persecuted. I say thats un American.

I say God bless America.

Can't Never Tried · Post by **Can't Never Tried** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:51 pm

This country was built by people who left the tyranny of Eruopean dictators who would not allow them to practice their religion of choice.

I think the real reason was oppressive taxation.... but yeah the religion issue was a part of it as well.
Oh yeah they wanted to open public schools too!!!

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:59 pm

Has the Statue of Liberty been lying all these years?

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore; Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:12 pm

No, she wouldnt lie. She is from France.

Ankles Pierre, Jr. · Post by **Ankles Pierre, Jr.** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:31 pm

Can't Never Tried wrote:I think the real reason was oppressive taxation.... but yeah the religion issue was a part of it as well.
Oh yeah they wanted to open public schools too!!!

You cannot get any more oppressive taxation than our public school system...
half an education at three times the cost!

Anyone who would stand in the way of OE or vouchers,
does not give a damn about public school kids.

Every public school kid should have the same opportunity to go to a Catholic school!

L' Ankles Pierre would never lie, either!