Section 4A 2007-8

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:04 am

Who will win Section 4A 2007-8?

Henry Sibley
Mahtomedi
Minnehaha Academy
Simley
South St. Paul
St. Paul Saints
St. Paul United
Totino-Grace

NE14HKY · Post by **NE14HKY** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:22 pm

huh. did Brian get to vote 5 times? LOL

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:06 pm

NE14HKY wrote:huh. did Brian get to vote 5 times? LOL

looks that way doesn't it!?!? That's probably all my kids voting... I've been informed that they have not only found but actually read this now regularly which can be good or bad depending how you look at things... I have had some come in in person to debate/discuss items on here so that is kind of funny...

hockeyhuni0611 · Post by **hockeyhuni0611** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:20 pm

looks that way doesn't it!?!? That's probably all my kids voting... I've been informed that they have not only found but actually read this now regularly which can be good or bad depending how you look at things... I have had some come in in person to debate/discuss items on here so that is kind of funny...[/quote]

Who told you that? haha

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:30 pm

hockeyhuni0611 wrote:
ghshockeyfan wrote:looks that way doesn't it!?!? That's probably all my kids voting... I've been informed that they have not only found but actually read this now regularly which can be good or bad depending how you look at things... I have had some come in in person to debate/discuss items on here so that is kind of funny...
Who told you that? haha

nothernewguy · Post by **nothernewguy** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:02 am

Boy, I see a lot of parity in this section here. After graduation of some very good players this year I think there may be 4 or so teams really fighting it out in Sections in 07-08

keepitreal · Post by **keepitreal** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:17 am

nothernewguy wrote:Boy, I see a lot of parity in this section here. After graduation of some very good players this year I think there may be 4 or so teams really fighting it out in Sections in 07-08

I agree, this section will be a dogfight. Graduation of one or two key players in class A has a huge effect on a team's fortunes because they rarely have the depth underneath as do the AA schools. Simley has a great young group of players that will be a force to be dealt with in coming years, but will need to overcome the graduation of their all-world goaltender. Sibley, SSP, and Mahtomedi have solid teams and will all be there at the end next year. Haven't seen enough of the others to comment.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:31 pm

Parity indeed. Same is true in the Classic Sub Conf. where half of these teams are members...

Bensonmum · Post by **Bensonmum** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:45 pm

Has Sibley just finished their last of 4 years' experiment with Class AA? I'm not sure I agree with the choice to drop to A. They were relatively competitive in the CSub conference, they split the two games I saw them play this year (both against AA opponents) and their enrollment is 1500+ students. Is 1500 students really eligible for Class A? Obviously I know nothing about the program, but isn't there an enrollment size that seperates A from AA? I can't believe the bar is set as high as 1500.

hockeya1a · Post by **hockeya1a** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:59 pm

Bensonmum wrote:Has Sibley just finished their last of 4 years' experiment with Class AA? I'm not sure I agree with the choice to drop to A. They were relatively competitive in the CSub conference, they split the two games I saw them play this year (both against AA opponents) and their enrollment is 1500+ students. Is 1500 students really eligible for Class A? Obviously I know nothing about the program, but isn't there an enrollment size that seperates A from AA? I can't believe the bar is set as high as 1500.

Does anybody know how they decide these things Sibley and Simley have
1500 and 1200 kids in their schools and they are A and Newcomer to AA Shakopee has about 1100 in their school.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:19 pm

hockeya1a wrote:
Bensonmum wrote:Has Sibley just finished their last of 4 years' experiment with Class AA? I'm not sure I agree with the choice to drop to A. They were relatively competitive in the CSub conference, they split the two games I saw them play this year (both against AA opponents) and their enrollment is 1500+ students. Is 1500 students really eligible for Class A? Obviously I know nothing about the program, but isn't there an enrollment size that seperates A from AA? I can't believe the bar is set as high as 1500.
Does anybody know how they decide these things Sibley and Simley have
1500 and 1200 kids in their schools and they are A and Newcomer to AA Shakopee has about 1100 in their school.

I don't believe that Sibley opted up before, but they may have???

I think that they may have been able to take a deduciton based ont eh new assisted lunch rule maybe???

As to the numbers, remember that they have to be corrected for assisted lunches, and are now counted 9-12 vs. 10-12...

hockeya1a · Post by **hockeya1a** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:27 pm

[
Does anybody know how they decide these things Sibley and Simley have
1500 and 1200 kids in their schools and they are A and Newcomer to AA Shakopee has about 1100 in their school.[/quote]

I don't believe that Sibley opted up before, but they may have???

I think that they may have been able to take a deduciton based ont eh new assisted lunch rule maybe???

As to the numbers, remember that they have to be corrected for assisted lunches, and are now counted 9-12 vs. 10-12...[/quote]

Here are some of those numbers supplied by the website that was posted

Enrolment # Reduced / Free New Adjusted #
Henry Sibley High School 1548 217 1331
Simley High School 1215 164 1051
Shakopee High School 1128 164 964

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:36 pm

hockeya1a wrote:
ghshockeyfan wrote:
hockeya1a wrote: Does anybody know how they decide these things Sibley and Simley have
1500 and 1200 kids in their schools and they are A and Newcomer to AA Shakopee has about 1100 in their school.
I don't believe that Sibley opted up before, but they may have???

I think that they may have been able to take a deduciton based ont eh new assisted lunch rule maybe???

As to the numbers, remember that they have to be corrected for assisted lunches, and are now counted 9-12 vs. 10-12...

Here are some of those numbers supplied by the website that was posted

Enrolment # Reduced / Free New Adjusted #
Henry Sibley High School 1548 217 1331
Simley High School 1215 164 1051
Shakopee High School 1128 164 964

Did Shak opt up?!?!?

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:44 pm

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/method07-09.htm

Hockey / Boys & Girls
Boys:
Largest 64 = Class AA
Remainder = Class A
Girls:
Largest 64 = Class AA
Remainder = Class A

I would think that Shak must have opted up and Sibley must be the largest A school?

hockeya1a · Post by **hockeya1a** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:45 pm

ghshockeyfan wrote:[

Did Shak opt up?!?!?

I have no clue,
just an Observation.
cant imagine small program.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:47 pm

hockeya1a wrote:
ghshockeyfan wrote:[

Did Shak opt up?!?!?
I have no clue,
just an Observation.
cant imagine small program.

Are they a co-op with another much smaller school at all???

hockeya1a · Post by **hockeya1a** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:53 pm

ghshockeyfan wrote:
hockeya1a wrote:
ghshockeyfan wrote:[

Did Shak opt up?!?!?
I have no clue,
just an Observation.
cant imagine small program.
Are they a co-op with another much smaller school at all???

No,
Co-op as far as I know

At the youth U12 they are combined with PL so they could have an A and B team

shootthepucknow · Post by **shootthepucknow** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:54 pm

From the MSHSL Website New School Enrollment Page
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/enrollments07.asp
Henry Sibley 1413
Shakopee 1435
Farmington 1436

1435 is the bottom of Class AA as it says on the link below
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/2007-08enrollclass.asp

So that means Shakopee (no-coop) is in AA and that puts Sibley out. Maybe with the new enrollment classifications it helped and hurt both schools?

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:55 pm

shootthepucknow wrote:From the MSHSL Website

Henry Sibley 1413
Shakopee 1435
Farmington 1436

1435 is the bottom of Class AA as it says on the link below
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/2007-08enrollclass.asp

So that means Shakopee (no-coop) is in AA and that puts Sibley out. Maybe with the new enrollment classifications it helped and hurt both schools?

That is what I was looking for... THANKS!

hockeya1a · Post by **hockeya1a** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:05 pm

shootthepucknow wrote:From the MSHSL Website New School Enrollment Page
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/enrollments07.asp
Henry Sibley 1413
Shakopee 1435
Farmington 1436

1435 is the bottom of Class AA as it says on the link below
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/2007-08enrollclass.asp

So that means Shakopee (no-coop) is in AA and that puts Sibley out. Maybe with the new enrollment classifications it helped and hurt both schools?

must be the prediction with the 9th graders in it.
It will be a good challange for them!

rwb1351 · Post by **rwb1351** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:56 pm

i don't understand why this section is so heavily loaded with Classic Suburban teams.