Bemidji to move from AA to A.

[Green and White Fan]

You can quit with the she crap. Many on the board may think you are humerous, many others feel you wreck every intelligent thread on here. I have no problem with Bemidji staying in "A". As far as Roseau's success in class A, who cares. Moorhead has had about the same amount of success as Warroad in the big school tourney.

[slapshooter]

Right on gatzke!

( 1st she says{G&WFan that is})~~>Elliot, some good posts and I respect alot of what you say. ( then she says) One thing, please don't bring up the idiotic statement that Roseau went AA because they didn't want to have to play Warroad, ( then she says)~~> Anyone that knows a shred about high school hockey knows that Roseau's program and tradition has dictated what class ( how'd roseau do in A?) ( then she goes on to say)~~>Warroad never won a big school state championship and probably stays in A, so they don't have to compete with Roseau to go to state. (then she lays on the bomb) Bemidji has had very limited success in AA and maybe staying in A and having success will jumpstart the town and the program.

The same kind of "success" that Roseau had in class 8A?

Whatever yu say Green and White Fn!

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[elliott70]

The day to elect to opt up has come and gone.
Bemidji will be A, unless they make a special appeal.

[slapshooter]

You can quit with the she crap. Many on the board may think you are humerous, many others feel you wreck every intelligent thread on here. I have no problem with Bemidji staying in "A". As far as Roseau's success in class A, who cares. Moorhead has had about the same amount of success as Warroad in the big school tourney.

How many?
Thought you were a female that's all!

Sure could've fooled me!

I'm married to ne y'know!

She gets a little "snippy" too! <~~

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[beaver16]

I think Elliott is correct in an earlier mention that Bemidji (Boys sports) does not have an identity, whether it is baseball, hockey, football etc. Sucess brings identity! I think it is a worth a try for the Lumberjacks to go A. The last time Bemidji was at the state tournamet was 21 years ago.

[slapshooter]

I think Elliott is correct in an earlier mention that Bemidji (Boys sports) does not have an identity, whether it is baseball, hockey, football etc. Sucess brings identity! I think it is a worth a try for the Lumberjacks to go A. The last time Bemidji was at the state tournamet was 21 years ago.

Long as they stay in section 8, that's all I care about!

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[TTpuckster]

The day to elect to opt up has come and gone.
Bemidji will be A, unless they make a special appeal.

Personally Elliot,

I welcome Bemidji to 8A.
Just makes the section more competitive, which means to me that EGF, TRF, and the rest of the gang will have to step it up another notch. Warroad, in my mind, is already there.

[Green and White Fan]

D16dad, the 11-4 record is for all boys youth hockey, starting with squirt B up through bantam A. Good luck to Bemidji Bantams at VFW state.

[riverman]

i suppose there is no way bagley will make it now that bemidji is in the same league

[elliott70]

Bagley is doing much better, but with the low #s it makes it very hard (no bantams ths year). But at pee-wees I think they have 16 or so kids.
Mite levels are as high as they have ever been.

Not that they will win section 8, but at least play competitively with some of the low to middle level teams.

And, after all, playing the game is what it is about. At eth end only one team advances from the section, the rest are losers (in the sense only one can be champion).

[2nd string]

Just courious slapshooter, when are you going to discuss some hockey, all you ever do is paste stuff from other post and bash them, I sure after reading this you will copy it and paste it and make some type of comment about it, You must find yourself extremly funny.

[slapshooter]

WRONG again!




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[2nd string]

ah yes there it is slapshooters wit! such good humor! Well if you have forgotten the subject it was about bemidji moving to class a, too bad I wish they would stay in aa I believe they could compete at the aa level. They have the resources.

[Green and White Fan]

elliot70, just to keep everything factual, I believe Bemidji actually lost in the semi-finals of the Region in 2001, not the finals. I am sure you can remember the horrible drive home from St. Cloud, as it was pouring rain when the game finished and then turned to snow. Took about 8 hours to get back to Roseau, via Bemidji. I am pretty sure that was 2001, but I have been wrong before!

[State Champ 97]

Bagley is doing much better, but with the low #s it makes it very hard (no bantams ths year). But at pee-wees I think they have 16 or so kids.
Mite levels are as high as they have ever been.

Not that they will win section 8, but at least play competitively with some of the low to middle level teams.

And, after all, playing the game is what it is about. At eth end only one team advances from the section, the rest are losers (in the sense only one can be champion).

Bagley always has numbers problems. They will get worse before they get better. That is the #1 problem.

The other two biggest problems are, one, they had a new coach every year for a while. They had some good people coaching there but were never able to build any type of continuty. Now they have one that is committed to the long term success of the program and not just the varsity team. He wants to be there and bulid that program up. That should help.
Two, the "middle level teams in section 8 won't schedule them because of the history of low numbered, weak teams. The only section 8 teams they played this year and in most years are Red Lake Falls, Park Rapids, and Kittson Central. They used to play LOW in the regular season but that has not happened for a while now either despite the fact that LOW and Bagley are in the same (Northwest) conference.
Crookston, LOW, Detroit Lakes, have flat out told their coach no, we will not play you.
I know the coach for Bagley and I am originally from there. He told me he understands but he still doesn't think it is right.

[State Champ 97]

Oh yeah if the players in Bemidji want to play A and they are under the enrollment number let them. Getting to state won't be easy. It is their team and their life. If that is what they want why should anyone else have a problem with it.

[schwang17]

Oh yeah if the players in Bemidji want to play A and they are under the enrollment number let them. Getting to state won't be easy. It is their team and their life. If that is what they want why should anyone else have a problem with it.

Bemidji is good enough, and has the #'s to compete at the AA level(Elliott points out all their recent successes at the Youth levels vs. AA programs), they should be there. When has anybody ever let the kids decide? Are you sure they're the ones who should have the final say? I can just see in 3-4 years Bemidji will want to make the jump back to AA again. I guess moving teams back and forth all the time really irks me. Especially when your Youth level teams are just as good or better than most AA programs right now. Bemidji wants to play A hockey, fine, just don't ever jump back to AA and force the Section to have to move others around again to replace you once you leave.

[elliott70]

sch-17
Apparently you do not understand the system. this happens every two years. At that time any single A school has the option to play AA. If every single A opted up we would have a one class system.

School populations change. The rule is to take thetop 64 plus opt ups and make a AA league. The rest play single A. This happens every two years. Every two years schools are realigned - some move to AA or A, some move from one sectin to another.

Your complaint will have no effect on this system. In two years Bemidji school population might be such that they are a AA team. Or they may be a single A team, but like every other A team they will have the right to play AA.

That is the system.

[2nd string]

I understand what you are saying, I think what everyone else is saying that we wish bemidji would stay aa, better competition makes better team. you might argu that but this is what I believe, just hope the teams you play this year in aa won't drop you from your schedule for the next two years, sometimes people look at it all wrong and say, why play them they are only a single a team

[schwang17]

sch-17
Apparently you do not understand the system. this happens every two years. At that time any single A school has the option to play AA. If every single A opted up we would have a one class system.

School populations change. The rule is to take thetop 64 plus opt ups and make a AA league. The rest play single A. This happens every two years. Every two years schools are realigned - some move to AA or A, some move from one sectin to another.

Your complaint will have no effect on this system. In two years Bemidji school population might be such that they are a AA team. Or they may be a single A team, but like every other A team they will have the right to play AA.

That is the system.

I understand that Elliott(with 2 T's). The problem is, letting kids decide it I don't think is the best road to go down. You note all of the successes they're having at the Youth levels, why don't they take that into consideration on this issue? If they're just going to go down to A for a couple years, what's the point of even going down in the first place? Just to say we have a better chance of winning something for a couple years?

[elliott70]

I am not trying to argue the point with anyone. Just trying to support the kids that will be playing for the next couple of years. Looking for the positive.

And no, the AA schools they play will probably not drop them.

Roseau and Moorhead have to continue if they all remain in the Mariucci Conference. Grand Rapids won't drop them.
Apollo will be single A so I cant imagine them not playing them.
Monti and River Lakes may drop them but they can replace them with Little Falls, Hibbing, Hermantown or a host of other quality A programs.
In reality there schedule will change little may be for hte better.

[2nd string]

I believe hibbing hermantown would be good addition, good luck with the move hope to see your program flurish, I hav to agree with shwang17 letting the kids make the decision, is questionable, but I guess they are the ones who have to play the games, does this mean adding teams like crookston egf trf and dl to the schedule. or are they on your schedule already?

[slapshooter]

Do yourself a favor and do a little reading 2nd string, so you can engage other posters from an informed position.

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[State Champ 97]

I believe hibbing hermantown would be good addition, good luck with the move hope to see your program flurish, I hav to agree with shwang17 letting the kids make the decision, is questionable, but I guess they are the ones who have to play the games, does this mean adding teams like crookston egf trf and dl to the schedule. or are they on your schedule already?

Here was Bemidji's schedule this year.
Schedule
11/25/2006 Lake of the Woods/ind/Rainy R 5 - 2 W
11/28/2006 East Grand Forks 5 - 3 W
11/30/2006 Eastview 5 - 4 W
12/1/2006 Monticello-Annandale-Maple Lak 3 - 0 W
12/7/2006 Moorhead 0 - 12 L
12/9/2006 Saint Cloud Apollo 5 - 4 W
12/12/2006 Warroad 1 - 4 L
12/14/2006 Thief River Falls H.S. 0 - 3 L
12/16/2006 Saint Cloud Tech 5 - 2 W
12/19/2006 International Falls H.S. 1 - 5 L
12/21/2006 Roseau 2 - 3 L
12/29/2006 Coon Rapids 5 - 5 T
1/4/2007 Crookston Pirates 4 - 2 W
1/6/2007 River Lakes Stars 4 - 1 W
1/13/2007 Alexandria 3 - 0 W
1/19/2007 Roseau 0 - 6 L
1/23/2007 Grand Rapids 1 - 5 L
1/26/2007 Fergus Falls 3 - 4 L
1/27/2007 Alexandria 3 - 2 W
1/30/2007 Moorhead 1 - 5 L
2/1/2007 Brainerd/Pillager/Pierz 1 - 2 L
2/6/2007 Thief River Falls H.S. 1 - 8 L
2/9/2007 Warroad 2 - 5 L
2/13/2007 Detroit Lakes 6 - 8 L
2/15/2007 Greenway Raiders 6 - 3 W

I wouldn't think it would change too much. Most of the teams are in the area or Mariucci Conference.

[gatzke]

same when the rams moved up in '98. Their schedule didn't change hardly at all, except now they got a AA school in their cities trip, added the St. Cloud trip and dropped the Duluth trip (which doesn't make much sense to me they dropped a game with East and Cloquet)