Section 1A 2006-7

[RSI]

We'll probably hear back from her around the end of the month, say 1/27.

[petomwendo]

austin held back. i know for a fact that at least 6 or 7 of those goals were accidental. the girls would shoot for the goalie's pads and she would move, letting it in. in the last half of the game, austin switched their offense to defense and defense to offense. it was a clean game, and the east coach complimented austin on the class they showed, or tried to show. don't insult coach bray. he does not condone unsportsmanlike behavior and emphasizes class above all else. He did everything he could think of to lessen austin's advantage. He split the first line up and didn't give his top players many shifts, the back-up goalie was put in, etc. I talked to one of the austin players and she was actually upset at the outcome of the game, that the score had run that high. the team was not show-boating or flexing its muscles in any sense.

Betty 99's right. i remember faribault beating east 16-0. did anyone say anything about that game?

[Twinnesota]

austin held back. i know for a fact that at least 6 or 7 of those goals were accidental. the girls would shoot for the goalie's pads and she would move, letting it in. in the last half of the game, austin switched their offense to defense and defense to offense. it was a clean game, and the east coach complimented austin on the class they showed, or tried to show. don't insult coach bray. he does not condone unsportsmanlike behavior and emphasizes class above all else. He did everything he could think of to lessen austin's advantage. He split the first line up and didn't give his top players many shifts, the back-up goalie was put in, etc. I talked to one of the austin players and she was actually upset at the outcome of the game, that the score had run that high. the team was not show-boating or flexing its muscles in any sense.

Betty 99's right. i remember faribault beating east 16-0. did anyone say anything about that game?

The only thing I can figure out is that the losing goalie(s) got so frustrated they just "let the puck go in"...Austin must be so good right now that they are just unbeatable. It was a bit of a shock to see that score though...
Sorry if I went too far with the "TD" post, petom...
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[Bensonmum]

I was also way too harsh. It's just that I have big hopes for the future of Girls' HS hockey in Minnesota like everyone else, and my biggest pet peeve is the unsportsmanlike behavior shown by some programs. When I watched the best Class A team in the state put on a great show against a weaker opponent without rubbing it in, it just made me even more sensitive about those teams that won't show restraint. I'm glad to hear that the Austin coaches and players understood the situation and tried ways of 'softening' the experience for their opponent. That gives me a lot of hope, and I apologize to them and their fans.

[petomwendo]

thanks for that. i'm sorry if i sounded really defensive and came on too strong.

hey, at the end of the day, we play for the love of the game. and we watch, coach, and ref for the same reason. Honestly, I didn't like the score either, but it happened. I hope that as time passes the girls hockey programs grow stronger and the competition gets tighter.

[RSI]

austin held back. i know for a fact that at least 6 or 7 of those goals were accidental. the girls would shoot for the goalie's pads

He split the first line up and didn't give his top players many shifts

Just to make sure I understand you correctly.
1.) It's 9 or 10 to 2 and your team is still shooting at the net getting those "accidental" goals?
2. Although the were split up and not getting "many" shifts, Austin's best players were still playing?

Take guess which team leads the Big 9 AND Section 1A in...
Double digit wins.
Austin 3
Mayo 1
Faribo 1
West 1
AL 0

in the last half of the game, austin switched their offense to defense and defense to offense.

According to the Austin roster, 13 of the 16 goals were scored by Austin forwards.

What goes around, comes around. Given the state of Austin's youth program, it won't be too long before Austin is on the other end of all those poundings. Enjoy.

[falcons89]

Congrats Albert Lea on your win. The only thing to remember is that sections are in St. Peter not Albert Lea. Your extra player ( the refs ) won't help you there.

I have decided that ,once again after reading this forum, THAT ALBERT LEA WILL WIN IT ALL. The tigers best team is now showing up to all of their games. They are the big favorite. Forget Austin, you can't beat a hockey team 3 times.

To the Mankato East issue:
What good possibly comes out of playing these games for either team or players?
I think it hurts you to play these games and then play a good team afterwards.

By the way I was impressed that 2 of Austin's players showed some restraint. Taylor Jenkins had 1 G and 5 A, while Kristen Faber had 1 goal and 3 A. These players could of piled it on.

Austin's future: Look at there backup goalie's stats.

[Twinnesota]

Congrats Albert Lea on your win. The only thing to remember is that sections are in St. Peter not Albert Lea. Your extra player ( the refs ) won't help you there.

When AL played Owatonna IN Owatonna (with their refs), Owatonna got tired in the third period and started hooking and tripping. AL had 5 on 3 for the last 4 minutes, caught up and won. When AL played Faribault in AL, faribault got tired in the third, etc....similar thing.

I have decided that ,once again after reading this forum, THAT ALBERT LEA WILL WIN IT ALL. The tigers best team is now showing up to all of their games. They are the big favorite. Forget Austin, you can't beat a hockey team 3 times.

Never said that AL would beat Austin. Only trying to point out that the 2-4 seeds are the same caliber. AL's team only "showed up" in reality against New Ulm...

To the Mankato East issue:
What good possibly comes out of playing these games for either team or players?
I think it hurts you to play these games and then play a good team afterwards.

So, the teams that cannot compete should not get to play, then? Good teams must play teams at all levels...not so good teams get better by playing good teams, etc...

By the way I was impressed that 2 of Austin's players showed some restraint. Taylor Jenkins had 1 G and 5 A, while Kristen Faber had 1 goal and 3 A. These players could of piled it on.

They could have dumped the puck and let East try to penetrate the Austin zone, letting their defense practice, do you not agree?

Austin's future: Look at there backup goalie's stats.

Misleading, considering the opportunities that goalie has had to play...

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[hocsocstud]

You can't accidently score 6 goals, but I guess I'm not going to argue that point. Many teams all over the state are racking up the goals on weak teams and they have to remember that when these teams vote for the seedings in the section tournament they are going to remember this team just throttled them and didn't let up.

I don't know if Austin will be on the other end of this in the future but I do know that they were on the other end of it in 12- under. You would think they would remember how embarrasing that was.

[Twinnesota]

Albert Lea is now 12-7-1
AL 3 - JM 0
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[petomwendo]

i guess we should enjoy those poundings. after all, it's happened to us before. we used to be pretty used to it. albert lea beat austin's 12-and-under several years ago 22-0...

coach bray did what he could concerning shots. he told his players to make five passes before they even took a shot on goal. if austin would have given the puck to east just to take it away over and over again, it would have been an insult to east. it feels horrible to lose that bad, but it feels even worse when the team you're playing starts toying with you. austin played as classy as they could.

i still haven't heard anything about faribault beating east 16-0... i wonder why...

do you want me to apologize for the game? is that it? i'm sorry. you have every right to beat the crap out of us in a couple years. just keep it clean. keep it fun.

i repeat what i said before. we (should) play for the love of the game. if it's still all about competition at the end of the day, don't play, don't watch, and don't coach. it's an insult to the game.

[golfreak]

I know in AL after they secure running time, coach Falk DOESN'T let the girls shoot. Just get it over the red line and dump it in. What's so insulting about that? I know as a player that getting hammered is much more insulting than having the puck being dumped in on me. Coach Bray showed absolutely no class and this should NEVER happen in hockey. What more is there to prove after you get running time?

[petomwendo]

would you feel better if we played them again and let them beat us? ok, fine. go for it. i said i was sorry. and no one here seems to be concerned with the love of the game.


get over it.
how about we hammer faribault for awhile? oh wait, you guys are from albert lea, I forgot. can't ever let austin go.

get over it. seriously.

[Bensonmum]

petom wrote:

get over it. seriously.

I agree. As a neutral observer I take petom's word that the Austin coaches/players are sensitive to lop-sided victories. And even if it didn't work out, we have to take it in good faith that when a team takes steps to lessen an embarrassing margin then we should give them credit and the benefit of the doubt.
One positive I see while reading this thread is the underlying bad feelings between AL and Austin--it seems as though a true rivalry is in place. And all serious leagues, sections and sports need rivalries to develop with a little bad blood thrown in. I like it. It reminds me of Harding-Johnson, Roseau-Warroad, HM-White Bear, Cretin-StThomas, Edina-everyone. There wouldn't be bad blood without passion and love for the game.

[Twinnesota]

would you feel better if we played them again and let them beat us? ok, fine. go for it. i said i was sorry. and no one here seems to be concerned with the love of the game.


get over it.
how about we hammer faribault for awhile? oh wait, you guys are from albert lea, I forgot. can't ever let austin go.

get over it. seriously.

I think we all love the game...and we wish the Packers the best.
After all, they are just young ladies like the rest of the teams.

And we all admit that there are different philosophies about the number of goals that a team should score during a game.

Lets face it, Austin is trying to prepare their team for the state tournament, playing their third line as much as possible and developing as many role players as possible.

And after all, if you were on a third line and got a chance to play more, wouldn't you want to score goals? Think about it...

Maybe we are all just a little too jealous of Austin this year.

Faribault scored 16 goals against a team, but did it early in the season. Maybe that's more blatant, and outright nasty???? Yes.....it is.

In addition to loving the game, it is about competition, and I for one hope AL gets the chance to play Austin in the section finals and wins. It is possible for even Austin to have a brain fart and lose, you know...

If Austin wins, so be it, and I again wish them the best and hope they get out of the first round at state. That might be tough.

But whoever gets to go to state, I would sincerely hope that their fellow section teams and especially their closest neighbors support them.

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[RSI]

UPCOMING GAMES

1/23
Faribo @ New Ulm
East @ West
Owatonna @ Albert Lea

1/25
Mayo @ Albert Lea
Faribo @ Austin
West @ JM

1/27
Century @ Faribo
Winona @ West
New Ulm @ Austin

Should be some good games this week, any thoughts?
-New Ulm plays a couple games against a couple of the top Section 1A teams. Personally I think New Ulm is a little overrated, but we'll see.
-Faribo visits Austin on Thursday. What happens to the seedings if Faribo gets the "W"??
-AL has a couple tough Big 9 games at home.
-West plays a couple pesky teams in JM and Winona. Don't get caught looking ahead
-Austin has a big week with Faribo then New Ulm. Both games are at Riverside, unfortunately I don't see Austin dropping either game.

[hockeybuff]

Faribault and Austin have both shown little class when it comes to playing weaker teams. Just take a look at the MSHL stats and see what games the hotdogs have scored most of their goals. They aren't many pucks going in the net against the top teams.

Who's a better player: someone who can score a goal to two and get a couple assists against a good team (equal or higher caliber than their own team) or a player who can score 5-6 goals against a weaker team such as Waseca, ME, Century?

What does it prove to be able to score 5 or more goals against a much weaker team - other than self satisfaction and increasing your numbers! Why not put the energy into helping a player who hasn't scored do so! That would be a better choice, this is a team sport!

[petomwendo]

What does it prove to be able to score 5 or more goals against a much weaker team - other than self satisfaction and increasing your numbers! Why not put the energy into helping a player who hasn't scored do so! That would be a better choice, this is a team sport!

I know for a fact that the girls weren't proud of their win. Again, I'm sorry. If they didn't show class, austin will just have to work on that. I know they never intended for the score to get that out of hand and they tried to show class.

They were trying to help their younger girls score in the last period of the game. there were a few that had never scored before and they were trying to get them their first goals. that's all it was, and i don't agree with that when the score is that high. honestly, i think they should have stopped at 9 or 10. but that's just not the way it happened. the girls feel bad, but there's no way we can change it now.

[petomwendo]

i'd like to see mayo fall to AL. an upset would be amazing. i hope they don't get too beat up from the owatonna game on tuesday; the huskies can be pretty rough.

[Twinnesota]

i'd like to see mayo fall to AL. an upset would be amazing. i hope they don't get too beat up from the owatonna game on tuesday; the huskies can be pretty rough.

I think Mayo would need to show up overconfident...to get upset by AL.

Owatonna could be tough, but got into penalty trouble last time AL played them. It should be an exciting game.

And.........if I were on Austin's third line, I would want to score my first or second career goal...you bet !!

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[RSI]

i'd like to see mayo fall to AL. an upset would be amazing.

For Albert Lea's sake right?

I heard Mayo had a bit of a struggle with JM a week or so ago, now I know why. That JM team is pretty good, they're young and they're best days are ahead of them.

[rubberpickle]

RSI may i ask what you have against the Austin team? i know Austin and AL have a rivarly that goes back many years but is it necessary to cut down the Austin girls every chance you get? they're just kids...just like the AL girls
a few people on this forum seem pro-Austin but rarely if at all do i see them talking about how bad the AL team is, how bad their coach is, how bad they want to see them beat etc.
before you reply think about how your daughter or any other AL player would feel if things you are saying were said about them-- maybe that would give them the motivation to crush the other team but maybe not

[petomwendo]

by the way, twinnesota, thanks for your post on the 21st.

[RSI]

RSI may i ask what you have against the Austin team? i know Austin and AL have a rivarly that goes back many years but is it necessary to cut down the Austin girls every chance you get? they're just kids...just like the AL girls
a few people on this forum seem pro-Austin but rarely if at all do i see them talking about how bad the AL team is, how bad their coach is, how bad they want to see them beat etc.
before you reply think about how your daughter or any other AL player would feel if things you are saying were said about them-- maybe that would give them the motivation to crush the other team but maybe not

RSI may i ask what you have against the Austin team?

Nothing more than the rivalry so no need to take it SO personal. That's what these are for. In fact I think Austin has a fine group of upperclassman. Don't know too much about the younger girls.

cut down the Austin girls every chance you get?

That is false and a complete exaggeration.
-I have said from the beginning that Austin is the best team in 1A this year and that they are the team to beat.
-I've stated that Austin's team is loaded with Seniors and should be very tough to beat this year and I'm not sure about they're future success.
-I've stated a number of time that Austin will get the #1 seed.
-I predicted Austin would beat Blaine because I thought they would.
-I predicted Austin would beat New Ulm (postponed game). Why? Because I've seen both teams play and I thought Austin was the better team.
-I have NEVER cut down the Austin girls like you stated. In fact, I have probably had more "negative" things to say about the AL team.

think about how your daughter or any other AL player would feel if things you are saying were said about them-- maybe that would give them the motivation to crush the other team but maybe not

-I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say? It's my fault that Austin leads the Big 9 and Section 1A in double digit blow out wins, I'm their motivation???

Get off your high horse and stop lecturing me on how mean spirited my posts are relating to Austin, that statement is completely inaccurate. I state the facts as I see them, I'm realistic and I try to stay positive and supportive about girls hockey in this area.

[Twinnesota]

Owatonna POUNDED AL 4-0...it was not even a game.
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