Hey, how 'bout doze Gophers

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:52 pm

I know its a little parochial but isnt Trestman a consensus type candidate?

Hometown boy; nice resume; wouldnt be cheap but certainly not a huge financial hit?

Is there a down side to him?

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:00 pm

I just got a chance to read Souhans column in the Red Star.

He makes the point that the U has a chance to really put itself in the fore front for the first time on a long time if it makes the right moves.

He thinks the Vikimgs are floundering and that nothing about that is going to chnge real soon leaving the Gophers with a chance to regain lost fans.

I agree with the part about the Vikings but he may be overstating the oportunity a bit.

Will our beloved Purple ever be abandoned by the faithfull for the perky Rodent?

Knowlzee · Post by **Knowlzee** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:03 pm

The phrase "turning a profit" should never be said in the same breath as anything to do with education, especially the facilities. A stadium has a slight user fee (tickets sales), which helps us out, but we pay for it. We fund education, period. Education is the single largest State Budget item, I believe. It's not only for books in the elementary schools.

Rationalize all the reasons for the stadium to make you feel better, but lets be honest,....the best reason to build a football stadium is because "we deserve it",......only because it sounds better than,.....because "we want it".

IS, the right coach may get all 4 of us football stars,......or not.

PB, they may be able to "recoup the principal" sooner on the Law school and the Coffman Union, with tickets sales.

Build it,....."we deserve it".

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:04 pm

What exactly are Trestman's qualifications? I've heard his name a ton, but what/where does he coach? Head coach? I know he's from St. Louis Park and all that.

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:17 pm

I read that Souhan column too. He made some solid points, and rightfully noted the poor decision making by the Vikings brass. If the Gophs do things the right way with the whole stadium/coach issues and the Vikes continue to make personnel blunders and have a coach with such a vacant personality, I think they can close the gap. I don't know if they can ever surpass the purple, but with success and a newfound commitment to the program, I think they can be close to on par.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:35 pm

Trestman ha sben a NFL asisitant for a number of years. I thnk he has been an offensive coordinator. That all I know.

grindiangrad-80 · Post by **grindiangrad-80** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:51 pm

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/s ... 05aaa.html

Marc Trestman

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:42 am

Oh good, he has his degree.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:01 pm

That was a good one RSI.

A very subtle dig.

But thats why we have to question whether this thing will ever change unless thw attitude in the administaration changes.

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:49 pm

Bo Pelini, LSU's defensive coordinator, said he would be interested in the coaching vacancy, although the Gophers have yet to contact him. He would be a good hire, has Big 10 ties and annually puts out great defenses, something the Gophers have sorely lacked recently.

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:40 am

Thanks PB.
As you probably guessed, my choice for Head Coach is Tice. I just think it would be just a good fit. He's well connected to the local coaches and players from his football camp, he has Head Coaching experience, NFL playing experience, he might not answer the phone, he's likeable, he's enthusiastic. There's a certain doofy charm to the guy, BUT since he doesn't have his degree he won't get consideration. It's really too bad, he's a great fit.

Knowlzee · Post by **Knowlzee** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:03 pm

How about if a "tutor" helps Mike with a few school papers, to "help" him attain his Degree.

And with Mike Tice's experience, he would know better than to take recruits to the strip club,.....just rent a boat.

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:35 pm

And you know Tice would work hard to get to a big name bowl game, there probably isn't much of a market for Sun Bowl tickets...

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:23 pm

I dont think so.

The media likes him which is a plus but he realy didnt impress me.

He looked like he was in over his head. His team looked poorly coached.

Plus he left here on a bad note.

If we want to go "back" to someone who was here but in a different role, then go Denny Green. At least he had some success.

But I say forget Green, forget Tice. Start new. Get a guy who is on the way up and fresh.

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:11 pm

It's a matter of perception, Tice is/was perceived the out of control goofy doofus while Chilly is perceived as the boss and in control.

Perception says Tice's teams were ripe with discipline issues, turnovers, penalties and a general sense of ineptitude.

Perception says that Chilly's team was disciplined, efficient and downright professional.

The argument could be made that Chilly's team had as many, if not more, issues with discipline, turnovers, penalties and a general sense of ineptitude as Tice.

Perception is like The Force, in the wrong hands its dangerous....

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:20 pm

Are we just perceiving that Tice got caught scalping Super Bowl tickets? If your stupid enough to get caught doing that, hows he going to be "successful" at recruiting?

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:37 pm

True, recruiting is ALL about integrity.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:53 pm

Agreed RSI, but the way people percieve you is for the most part controllable.

In addition, I think peole are sharp enough to look past the surface when a guy has been around awhile. Tice did not look nor act like he had it down and a lot of his onfield decisions bore that out. His team looked poorly coached

As far as Chilly goes, he isnt the standard by which I judge Tice. He has a different surface to be sure but we look past that too. His team also looks poorly coached.

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:42 am

OVERHEARD

) Markuson, on the Gophers football coaching vacancy: "This is about people and perception."

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:49 am

From Pioneer Press...

Who should be the Gophers football coach?

Tony Dungy
1604 votes (31%)
Frank Solich
260 votes (5%)
Paul Chryst
166 votes (3%)
Marc Trestman
452 votes (9%)
Mike Tice
941 votes (18%)
Lane Kiffin
1106 votes (22%)
Larry Coker
415 votes (8%)
Chris Petersen
180 votes (4%)

5124 people have voted so far

Nice to see Tony Dungy getting so many votes, unfortuantely that will never happen. Who is Lane Kiffin? Monte's kid?

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:33 am

Yea, Lane Kiffin is Monte's kid. He was the QB for Bloomington Jefferson in the early 90's, and now is the O-coordinator at USC. He seems like a pretty good candidate.

A little disappointed that no Pelini was on that poll, I really hope he hasn't slipped off our radar.

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:10 pm

Looks like a wild-card candidate might be Paul Johnson, the current coach at Navy. He has a pretty good track record and is not deterred by unfavorable conditions. He looks like a legit candidate, but I am still giving my steadfast support to the Kiffin/Pelini bandwagon.

Blue Breeze · Post by **Blue Breeze** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:41 pm

Lane Kiffin reportedly has been offered the job, according to Gopher Illustrated. If he accepts, the announcement could be made this weekend.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:59 pm

It makes sense. Decent resume and local roots.

Hasnt been fired yet.

BUT, remember some of the comments we made about whether the UofM was commited and able to do what it takes.

I dont know if the buyout situation with Mason and Monson didnt financialy affect the decision on who to go after (no big name).

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:03 pm

If this is going down there is one columnist at the Red Star who needs to get some better sources within the U athletic department.

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Hey, how 'bout doze Gophers

"turning a profit"?

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