Wait Until Lent

[SEMinnHockeyNut]

The proposed changes to give "boundaries" to private schools is an attempt to make the transfer policy equitable with public schools. If you can't transfer to another public school without penalty, you shouldn't be able to transfer to a private and become immediately eligible

Again, the attendance boundaries only apply to those people transfering AFTER they enroll in 9th grade. Outside of that particular, private schools do NOT have attendance boundaries.

[SEMinnHockeyNut]

Why is it jumping ship? My Kids have attended private Catholic school from preschool on. The reason my kids played in the local youth association surely wasn't out of loyalty, but because they were forced to.
If STA, CDH or any other private school was allowed to operate their own youth program we'd "jump ship" in a second as would many, many others. You can't force people to be loyal.

Create your own youth hockey association and you solve your own problem if you are that concerned about being forced to play youth hockey with public school kids. Again, I am not talking about your kids 'jumping ship' as they planned on going to STA or CDH from the beginning. I am talking about people who transfer AFTER 9th grade - including those 'recruited' to other public schools. Please read my entire post. Thanks and peace be with you.

[Ankles Pierre, Jr.]

First of all Jesus had more important things to do on this earth, than play hockey,....

BLASPHEMY!

[hockeyfamily]

Minnesota Hockey is the statewide governing body of amateur hockey in Minnesota and an affiliate of USA Hockey. Member associations are not affiliated with any school, public or private. If you choose not to join this organization, fine. Set up your own hockey organization. Make your own rules. Certify your own Refs. Play other teams within your hockey organization. Whose stopping you?

I believe a couple years back when STA tried this D8 voted it down and wouldn't allow it. I'm not saying private schools should have or need their own youth programs. My point is you can't force people to be loyal to their local youth association just because they are forced to play there.
It's unfair to say kids are jumping ship when they chose to attend a high school that isn't fed from the youth association.

The proposal also establishes attendance areas for private schools, coinciding with the attendance areas of the public school districts in which private schools are located. For athletes to be immediately eligible upon transferring to a private school, they must live in that attendance area. That part of the proposal has brought objections from private schools.

There is not a private HS Catholic or otherwise in our public school district. Does the MSHSL get to make up a boundary for my kids?

[Ankles Pierre, Jr.]

If Dave Stead and H. Nut really wanted equity between public and private schools, they would instead propose vouchers.

Bonus: kids could go to the best schools of their choice regardless of income or neighborhood.

[Neutron 14]

I believe a couple years back when STA tried this D8 voted it down and wouldn't allow it. I'm not saying private schools should have or need their own youth programs. My point is you can't force people to be loyal to their local youth association just because they are forced to play there.
It's unfair to say kids are jumping ship when they chose to attend a high school that isn't fed from the youth association.

Youth hockey associations are not associated with any high school in particular. Everone can play. St. Clouds youth hockey association "feeds" three high schools. If STA wanted to have their own association that was exclusive to only STA kids, of course D8 and Minnesota Hockey would say no. Imagine if a public school said it didn't want any private schoolers. My how people would howl.

There is not a private HS Catholic or otherwise in our public school district. Does the MSHSL get to make up a boundary for my kids?

The MSHSL doesn't create school district boundaries. Your existing public school district is the boundary.

[Neutron 14]

Now if all thats clear, lets give this thread back to packerboy and his original intent.

Which was umm... err... Hey PB!!! What were we doing?

Fishing for Dulutherans?

[Ankles Pierre, Jr.]

That's the point, Neutron: PRIVATE schools do not have territorial boundaries, nor should they ever.

The MSHSL is attempting to artificially CREATE school district boundaries for PRIVATE schools. If you want the PRIVATE schools to be limited to a certain tax district, then the PRIVATE schools also should receive their revenue from those same tax districts.

Centennial's dry years are making your arguments look desperate, friend.

BTW, what were you going to get me for CHRISTMAS before you turned to the dark side? Another Catholic School State Champion from Section 3 would be nice (or a new pair of hockey skates that don’t bend so easily at the ankles).

[Neutron 14]

THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING...

There still won't be any territorial boundaries for people enrolling in private schools. That will not change. Privates will still be able to attract the best of the best. (Notice I didn't use the R word). Even those built on a hill.

Desperate? I'm very proud of them actually. The down turn of Centennial this year has been long forseen. It happens when you play your own kids. But their growing...

[packerboy]

A lot of bone head decisions are made when people try to apply princilples esatablished for one system to another.

Public schools are set up with districts that have boundries. It makes a lot of sense and works well for a lot of people

Private schools are not now nor have they ever been set up that way for reasons that should be obvious. So to apply or create boundries as it realtes to private schools for this or any other issues is well, bone headed.

We are involved in High Schoolhockey. It isnt town hockey. It isnt community hockey. The kids play for their school. Ther are very few schools that represent one town or community anymore. In the metro it is Centennial and Roseville Area and Stillwater Area and on and on.

So peopel who say "stay and play for your hometown" have their heads in the 1950s as well as another well known place.

But it brings up an intersting point. Would Jesus play for Nazareth or Bethlehem ?

SEMinn, your attempt to twist out of your "Jesus wouldnt go to Catholic school"post was feeble at best.

Neut, enlightenment will occur but first you gotta get their attention.

[SEMinnHockeyNut]

He would play for Nazareth. They have much cooler uniforms, more transfers and a top notch coach!

[elliott70]

The Pandora's box was opened when private schools were brought into the play-off system back in 1975 and again when open enrollment was created with no cap on extracurricular (especially sports).

How do you stuff everything back in the box and close the lid?

You don't!

I do not cheer (well, yes I do) for the private schools nor do I for the kids that transfer via open enrollment (well, yes, I do).

Do I prefer kids staying at the home school of their youth (their own neigborhood so to speak) and let the parochial schools only attract those who wish to wear a collar someday? Well, sure. I am stuck in the 50's.

But we all know that will not happen.

So what would Jesus do???

When I last checked my birth certificate, neither mother or father were named G O D, so I will just continue in prayer that the Rams or Spuds kick the crap out of Hill-Murray. But I am happy that those parochial (trying to be political correct, which is not really me) kids get the opportunity.



And SEMN and all of us, remember Jesus laughed and joked also. Especially when spending time with children.

[SEMinnHockeyNut]

He would play for Nazareth. They have much cooler uniforms, more transfers and a top notch coach!

Well I thought this was somewhat funny!

P.S. Pandora was part of a pagan religion, so be careful what you reference on this thread!

[elliott70]

Yes, paganism.

Dec 25 as the Mass of Christ, Roman leaders trying to appease the pagans with having a feast on the day after winter solstice, to match the pagan's feast.

Perhaps March 1 would be closer to the appropriate date.

But it is the celebration that is important so if the pagan's joined the Christians and eventually understood what He taught, perhaps that is what He intended.

[Ankles Pierre, Jr.]

AP has had enough of all you posters trying to be "nice" and "funny." People come to a hockey board to watch the fights!

Also, AP is fed up with people telling these innocent young Catholic transfers to make up their minds about where they will attend school by the ninth grade.

We all know why kids transfer to Catholic schools, where as hockey players it is easier to get noticed. That's right, we've heard it so many times before that Catholic transfers want to get noticed... by pretty girls... and we all know the prettiest girls go to Catholic school. So, requiring kids to make up their minds by ninth grade is nonsense... for many of these kids the hormones are not completely out of control until age fifteen or sixteen... that’s why we wait until then to start using the car.

SEMinnHockeyNut is an exception; he didn't go to Catholic school but married himself a Catholic school girl anyway. Maybe she was working as a volunteer one day and looked upon him with pity as he stood in line at the Catholic Charities... I don't know, but the point is we should not force good Catholic boys to have to date ugly girls.

When Neutron14 reachs his 15th birthday he too will understand.

P. S. Neutron14, give me a hint about my CHRISTMAS present (I'd be happy with your old comic books or NHL player cards when you grow out of them).

[Irishmans Shanty]

WHY do you keep refering to them as Catholics........ when half the team is probs not even Catholic.... they are probs Protestant..... Furne on HM for example...

As our nation sat poised to fight the civil war a reporter asked President Lincoln if God were on the North's side. The witty Lincoln replied, "That would be great if he were, but we really need Kentucky."

[Neutron 14]

Excellent IS!

AP, you well know Neutron 14 is not my age, but simply a cheap imitation of Neutrons 1-13.

Catholic girls may or may not be the prettiest. But back in my day they were the most willing!




, time to lighten up and have fun!

[SEMinnHockeyNut]

Catholic girls may or may not be the prettiest. But back in my day they were the most willing!

Why do you think I married one?

[packerboy]

CDH wins 8-1

BSM 12-3

HM 4-2

AHA was idle

A good weekend for the Catholics with STA and Holy Family also recording wins.

I dont know how I could have missed this before but who would Jesus play for except Holy Family? I mean, He is already a member.

Neut you asked what the original pupose of the thread was and my answer is: To discuss High School hockeyand have fun. Do that any way you want. All the way to the Lenten season when we meet in St Paul under the shadow of The Cathedral.

[Ankles Pierre, Jr.]

Caped Crusader,

While you were out fighting crime last night, the Teen Wonder has left you and the batcave under the influence of the loons from Arkham Asylum and the Legion of Doom!

Some of the Superfriends have even used that toll free number calling for his head!

Of course, I would never support something so extreme, but it's time the boy turned in his tights.

Sincerely,
Kal-EL

[Can't Never Tried]

I find it odd that the people of any of the schools (Catholic or what ever) Would be asking the WWJD question. (Or WWJP)

If hockey in MN mattered to him he would suited up for Sleepy Eye.

He would surround himself with the lowest of the low.

No offense intended to Sleepy Eye

[packerboy]

You are right CNT and there wouldn't be a money changer in town who would feel safe.

The Catholics are preparng to defend their Schwans sweep of '05. Only problem is they neglected to put a Catholic team in the Bronze division.

I am sure collaborators such as Neut would dismiss this as just circumstance but millitant freedom fighters such as packerboy and AP(n/k/a Kal-El) know better.

Just wait until Lent.

[Ankles Pierre, Jr.]

Neut and H. Nut think that being a "good Catholic" is sitting back, eating popcorn, while Dave Stead feeds the Freedom-Loving Catholics to the lions!

No offense to Sleppy Eye, but it's not a Catholic school. Jesus would concentrate first on rebuilding the hockey program at St. Agnes!

And just great, PB, you just gave Lois and Lex my secret identity!

[packerboy]

I am sure they are both wishing people 'happy holidays' this time of year so that no one will be offended by mentioning the birth of Christ.

I like the 'good Catholic", "bad Catholic ' attack though. A similar strategy was used quite effectively by the Boswich campaign a while back.

But the ultra liberal brian washing they have been subjected to by the pagan infidels has been formidable and caused them to be indoctrinated into a mind set that is easy to recruit against......er, I mean that people are starting to reject in big numbers

500 applications at CDH for 300 spots every year. I guess we over recruited .

Anyway, up this week for our boys in preparing for the Schwans cup:

CDH vs Forest lake

HM vs SSP

BSM vs TG in an all Catholic affair

AHA vs Chaska

[elliott70]

There you go attacking the Pagans again.