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Here's the link to the final 54 rosters

Not the best indicator for future state section difficulty but the following sections had these % of players cut from their rosters:

Section 1 - 67%
Section 2 - 56%
Section 3 - 83%
Section 4 - 61%
Section 5 - 78%
Section 6 - 56%
Section 7 - 83%
Section 8 - 50%

By this calculation Section 8 has the deepest pool of talent followed by Section 6 and 2.

Section 1 would be higher if you take the Shattuck players out. The talk is that the Shattuck players already have a spot on the final 54. You have to wonder how many spots are even available and what the process is? If the players are being evaluated why aren't they given some form of evaluation on what they need to work on.

little9BigRed wrote:Section 1 would be higher if you take the Shattuck players out. The talk is that the Shattuck players already have a spot on the final 54. You have to wonder how many spots are even available and what the process is? If the players are being evaluated why aren't they given some form of evaluation on what they need to work on.

There are spots taken, all the way to the national camp, before the first puck is dropped.

Good point about a record of the player's evaluation.

not all the Shattuck players moved on

Mailman wrote:

little9BigRed wrote:Section 1 would be higher if you take the Shattuck players out. The talk is that the Shattuck players already have a spot on the final 54. You have to wonder how many spots are even available and what the process is? If the players are being evaluated why aren't they given some form of evaluation on what they need to work on.

There are spots taken, all the way to the national camp, before the first puck is dropped.

Good point about a record of the player's evaluation.

They all did from section 1, they always have. I'm not aware of any from other sections that didn't make it.

little9BigRed wrote:Section 1 would be higher if you take the Shattuck players out. The talk is that the Shattuck players already have a spot on the final 54. You have to wonder how many spots are even available and what the process is? If the players are being evaluated why aren't they given some form of evaluation on what they need to work on.

Eval on your player: Thanks for the $$! Why don't they just send out the rosters and forget the try outs? Everyone knows it's pre selection anyways

urban iceman wrote:Eval on your player: Thanks for the $$! Why don't they just send out the rosters and forget the try outs? Everyone knows it's pre selection anyways

Save your money and buy your kid a new stick - words can't describe how bad this thing stinks. In prior years they sent out a 10 word "eval" of your kid's strengths and weaknesses, barely legible - well worth the money.

Below is how the goalies finished statistically this past weekend. I attended as a observer and thought that stats were very indicative of the play. I am shocked by a few of these selections of players who REALLY struggled this past weekend... Curious to see how this plays out because one of the goalies who struggled was a national camp participant last year, will he be one of the automatic bids sent to the national festival? I feel bad for 2 of the goalies not listed in this group who I though did a fantastic job last weekend. One of them being on the Championship team. Only time will tell. Overall I do feel that this group of goalies is one of the better ones seen in the past few years. Very good size and athleticism throughout.

# Name Team GP MIN W L T SOG SV GA GAA SV % SO
57 Robert Goor 17s-5 3 72:00 2 0 0 33 32 1 0.67 .970 0
66 Jake Kielly 17s-6 3 72:00 1 0 0 47 45 2 1.33 .957 0
57 Gabriel Heifort 17s-8 3 77:00 1 1 1 69 63 6 3.74 .913 0
54 Alex Murray 17s-7 3 72:00 0 0 0 49 44 5 3.33 .898 0
64 Dyllan Lubbesmeyer 17s-2 3 72:00 0 1 0 51 45 6 4.00 .882 0
49 Paul Hummel 17s-1 3 72:00 1 1 0 49 43 6 4.00 .878 0
65 Sam Dalton 17s-6 3 72:00 1 1 0 48 42 6 4.00 .875 0
66 Erik Anderson 17s-2 3 72:00 2 0 0 55 48 7 4.67 .873 0
46 Jonathon Burkel 17s-1 3 72:00 0 1 0 46 40 6 4.00 .870 0
62 Gabe Splichal 17s-4 3 77:00 0 0 1 36 31 5 3.12 .861 0
55 Calvin Mckenney 17s-5 3 72:00 1 0 0 28 24 4 2.67 .857 0
50 Chase Perry 17s-7 3 72:00 1 2 0 55 47 8 5.33 .855 0
59 Jacob Dittmer 17s-8 3 72:00 0 0 0 48 40 8 5.33 .833 0
48 Andrew Lindgren 17s-3 3 72:00 0 0 0 47 39 8 5.33 .830 0
45 George McLeod 17s-3 3 72:00 0 3 0 30 24 6 4.00 .800 0
64 Chase Gorman 17s-4 3 72:00 1 1 0 44 35 9 6.00 .795 0

Looking at HP 16's Final 54 below is who made to National Camp as a 15 year old.

Here was who made it last year:
Reebok MN Hockey High Performance 15 boys National Camp Selections

Forwards
Rem Pitlick
Max Zimmer
Alec Baer
Chase Jungels
Koby Bender
Jonah Bischoff
Tanner Tweten
Will Garin
Mark Kaske
Matthew Freytag
Lawrence Jungwirth
Christiano Versich
Casey Dornbach
Dylan McDonald (Alternate)
Tyler Bump (Alternate)
Derek Hammer (Alternate)

Defensemen
Ben Newhouse
Jordan Klehr
Toby Sengvongxay
Jack Ahcan
Nick Heid
Jacob Olson
Tye Ausmus
Jason Krych (Alternate)
Collin Saccoman (Alternate)
Ryan Zuhlsdorf (Alternate)

Goaltenders
Vaughan Ahrens
Conor Klaers
Jacob Berger (Alternate)
Evan Robert (Alternate)

Only 2 kids who did not make 54 from this list
Baer who left for the WHL
Also, Olson of Hill Murray. Did he not tryout this year?

Otherwise all the other boys return looking to get back to New York!

Stars67 wrote:Below is how the goalies finished statistically this past weekend. I attended as a observer and thought that stats were very indicative of the play. I am shocked by a few of these selections of players who REALLY struggled this past weekend... Curious to see how this plays out because one of the goalies who struggled was a national camp participant last year, will he be one of the automatic bids sent to the national festival? I feel bad for 2 of the goalies not listed in this group who I though did a fantastic job last weekend. One of them being on the Championship team. Only time will tell. Overall I do feel that this group of goalies is one of the better ones seen in the past few years. Very good size and athleticism throughout.

# Name Team GP MIN W L T SOG SV GA GAA SV % SO
57 Robert Goor 17s-5 3 72:00 2 0 0 33 32 1 0.67 .970 0
66 Jake Kielly 17s-6 3 72:00 1 0 0 47 45 2 1.33 .957 0
57 Gabriel Heifort 17s-8 3 77:00 1 1 1 69 63 6 3.74 .913 0
54 Alex Murray 17s-7 3 72:00 0 0 0 49 44 5 3.33 .898 0
64 Dyllan Lubbesmeyer 17s-2 3 72:00 0 1 0 51 45 6 4.00 .882 0
49 Paul Hummel 17s-1 3 72:00 1 1 0 49 43 6 4.00 .878 0
65 Sam Dalton 17s-6 3 72:00 1 1 0 48 42 6 4.00 .875 0
66 Erik Anderson 17s-2 3 72:00 2 0 0 55 48 7 4.67 .873 0
46 Jonathon Burkel 17s-1 3 72:00 0 1 0 46 40 6 4.00 .870 0
62 Gabe Splichal 17s-4 3 77:00 0 0 1 36 31 5 3.12 .861 0
55 Calvin Mckenney 17s-5 3 72:00 1 0 0 28 24 4 2.67 .857 0
50 Chase Perry 17s-7 3 72:00 1 2 0 55 47 8 5.33 .855 0
59 Jacob Dittmer 17s-8 3 72:00 0 0 0 48 40 8 5.33 .833 0
48 Andrew Lindgren 17s-3 3 72:00 0 0 0 47 39 8 5.33 .830 0
45 George McLeod 17s-3 3 72:00 0 3 0 30 24 6 4.00 .800 0
64 Chase Gorman 17s-4 3 72:00 1 1 0 44 35 9 6.00 .795 0

Yes, here are the 16's:


47 Evan Robert 16s-1 3 96:00 3 0 0 33 32 1 0.50 .970 1
69 Jacob Berger 16s-6 3 96:00 1 1 0 29 28 1 0.50 .966 0
50 Pierce Wilson 16s-1 3 48:00 0 0 0 40 37 3 3.00 .925 0
50 Zach Driscoll 16s-3 3 72:00 0 3 0 86 79 7 4.67 .919 0
58 Grant Tharaldson 16s-8 3 75:24 1 1 0 55 50 5 3.18 .909 0
67 Jens Vaughan Ahrens 16s-6 3 48:00 1 0 0 35 31 4 4.00 .886 0
64 Conor Klaers 16s-2 3 48:00 0 0 0 34 30 4 4.00 .882 0
56 Will Swanson 16s-4 3 48:00 0 0 0 35 30 5 5.00 .857 0
59 Aaron Furlalno 16s-4 3 99:24 1 2 0 40 34 6 2.90 .850 0
60 Alexander Burke 16s-8 3 72:00 1 0 0 59 50 9 6.00 .847 0
52 Isiah Dilley 16s-7 3 72:00 0 1 0 52 44 8 5.33 .846 0
53 Zachary St. John 16s-5 3 96:00 0 2 0 62 52 10 5.00 .839 0
63 Holton Stricklen 16s-2 3 96:00 2 1 0 42 35 7 3.50 .833 0
51 Darion Hanson 16s-7 3 72:00 1 1 0 60 48 12 8.00 .800 0
49 Jared Manzella 16s-3 3 72:00 0 0 0 52 40 12 8.00 .769 0
60 Jonathan Albers 16s-5 3 48:00 1 0 0 22 16 6 6.00 .727 0

Agree both 17s and 16s had a good crop of goalies this year - I saw that championship game for the 16's....Lakeville goalie Pierce Wilson was stellar in completing the shutout win for Section 1, then got skipped over completely after finishing 3rd for save % for the weekend. Who knows how this stuff works!!

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:Looking at HP 16's Final 54 below is who made to National Camp as a 15 year old.

Here was who made it last year:
Reebok MN Hockey High Performance 15 boys National Camp Selections

Forwards
Rem Pitlick
Max Zimmer
Alec Baer
Chase Jungels
Koby Bender
Jonah Bischoff
Tanner Tweten
Will Garin
Mark Kaske
Matthew Freytag
Lawrence Jungwirth
Christiano Versich
Casey Dornbach
Dylan McDonald (Alternate)
Tyler Bump (Alternate)
Derek Hammer (Alternate)

Defensemen
Ben Newhouse
Jordan Klehr
Toby Sengvongxay
Jack Ahcan
Nick Heid
Jacob Olson
Tye Ausmus
Jason Krych (Alternate)
Collin Saccoman (Alternate)
Ryan Zuhlsdorf (Alternate)

Goaltenders
Vaughan Ahrens
Conor Klaers
Jacob Berger (Alternate)
Evan Robert (Alternate)

Only 2 kids who did not make 54 from this list
Baer who left for the WHL
Also, Olson of Hill Murray. Did he not tryout this year?

Otherwise all the other boys return looking to get back to New York!

Olson did try out.

Wilson got cheated.[ No I don't know his folks.]

Mailman wrote:

little9BigRed wrote:Section 1 would be higher if you take the Shattuck players out. The talk is that the Shattuck players already have a spot on the final 54. You have to wonder how many spots are even available and what the process is? If the players are being evaluated why aren't they given some form of evaluation on what they need to work on.

There are spots taken, all the way to the national camp, before the first puck is dropped.

Good point about a record of the player's evaluation.

Agree spots are already taken, also how does a player make it when he was -7 in one game?! and missed all the penalty shots that his coach told him to take (6 penalty shots for the weekend). I thought whoever got tripped or slashed, that player would take the penalty shot. NO my kid didn't make it because he 's not good enough not a problem, but at least give it to a kid that deserves to go.

how does a player make it when he was -7 in one game?! and missed all the penalty shots that his coach told him to take (6 penalty shots for the weekend).

Now that is some funny stuff. As the saying goes, you just can't make this stuff up. -7 in one game? He has to be cut or the process is a joke.

All prior years the player that created penalty took penalty shot. If this is now the coaches discretion that is an issue/problem.

As far a goalie selection personally would not base on save %. Yes that would be a factor but goalie overall skill would be top rating - position, movement, recovery after save, puck handling, etc.

Was there really a player with a -7 in one game who made the cut?(hockey8543) If so, who?
If Wilson was cheated (oldgoalie85) who is on the list that should not be there?
Are there players who make it to NY that are not involved in the tryout process? (Anyone)

Wilson was cheated in the process but did you really think they were going to leave Klaers or Ahrens out of the mix? Come on! They could have stayed home in bed and moved on. They were last year's 15 choice and were moving on no matter what. This will continue to Nationals too even if Robert, Berger, and Driscoll stand on their heads. Politics are politics boys.

pioneers wrote:

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:Looking at HP 16's Final 54 below is who made to National Camp as a 15 year old.

Here was who made it last year:
Reebok MN Hockey High Performance 15 boys National Camp Selections

Forwards
Rem Pitlick
Max Zimmer
Alec Baer
Chase Jungels
Koby Bender
Jonah Bischoff
Tanner Tweten
Will Garin
Mark Kaske
Matthew Freytag
Lawrence Jungwirth
Christiano Versich
Casey Dornbach
Dylan McDonald (Alternate)
Tyler Bump (Alternate)
Derek Hammer (Alternate)

Defensemen
Ben Newhouse
Jordan Klehr
Toby Sengvongxay
Jack Ahcan
Nick Heid
Jacob Olson
Tye Ausmus
Jason Krych (Alternate)
Collin Saccoman (Alternate)
Ryan Zuhlsdorf (Alternate)

Goaltenders
Vaughan Ahrens
Conor Klaers
Jacob Berger (Alternate)
Evan Robert (Alternate)

Only 2 kids who did not make 54 from this list
Baer who left for the WHL
Also, Olson of Hill Murray. Did he not tryout this year?

Otherwise all the other boys return looking to get back to New York!

Olson did try out.

So did Tyler Bump (SSM), I believe, and I did not see his name on the Final 54 list?

OneMoreYear wrote:

pioneers wrote:

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:Looking at HP 16's Final 54 below is who made to National Camp as a 15 year old.

Here was who made it last year:
Reebok MN Hockey High Performance 15 boys National Camp Selections

Forwards
Rem Pitlick
Max Zimmer
Alec Baer
Chase Jungels
Koby Bender
Jonah Bischoff
Tanner Tweten
Will Garin
Mark Kaske
Matthew Freytag
Lawrence Jungwirth
Christiano Versich
Casey Dornbach
Dylan McDonald (Alternate)
Tyler Bump (Alternate)
Derek Hammer (Alternate)

Defensemen
Ben Newhouse
Jordan Klehr
Toby Sengvongxay
Jack Ahcan
Nick Heid
Jacob Olson
Tye Ausmus
Jason Krych (Alternate)
Collin Saccoman (Alternate)
Ryan Zuhlsdorf (Alternate)

Goaltenders
Vaughan Ahrens
Conor Klaers
Jacob Berger (Alternate)
Evan Robert (Alternate)

Only 2 kids who did not make 54 from this list
Baer who left for the WHL
Also, Olson of Hill Murray. Did he not tryout this year?

Otherwise all the other boys return looking to get back to New York!

Olson did try out.

So did Tyler Bump (SSM), I believe, and I did not see his name on the Final 54 list?

Good pick up three boys from national list last dont make final 54 this year....

Who makes the final cut this year?

Maybe the evaluators should only see jersey #'s

Evan Robert was the best goalie I saw all weekend. 16 or 17! He was square to every shot and made every save look very easy. I look to see big things from him as he moves forward. Very impressive to see a 'tendy from SSM with this kind of talent and tenacity.

Robert did look really sharp in the championship game and obviously had a great tourney with those numbers(though I didn't see the other two section 1 games) The Robert/Wilson combo looked to be the best tandem in 16's.

Stars67 wrote:Evan Robert was the best goalie I saw all weekend. 16 or 17! He was square to every shot and made every save look very easy. I look to see big things from him as he moves forward. Very impressive to see a 'tendy from SSM with this kind of talent and tenacity.

you can't play at SSM if you aren't talented

But he couldn't talk his way in to see a Mt. St Charles practice