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Who makes this list and how is it determined?

An All-state team at PeeWee? Really?! Give me a break!

the_juiceman wrote:An All-state team at PeeWee? Really?! Give me a break!

Why not, can you answer that? Some of these players are one year away from playing High School.

I was just curious to who puts this list together.

without looking im guessing this is going to be pretty metro-ish...1 maaaaybe 2 outstate.

just not many good kids outside metro.

Eagle86 wrote:See Link:

http://minnesotahockeyreport.com/2012/0 ... tate-team/

Who makes this list and how is it determined?

This looks like alot of the same names Fred has been talking about all year.

Congrats to all the players whose name appears on the All State PeeWee A list...certainly a nice honor to be mentioned among the State's best.

I suspect there are other top level players whose name did not appear on the list (too).

What will be interesting to see (this spring and summer) and next winter season...is how playing a season of essentially "no check" hockey affected the development of the top PeeWee players.

Five (who will be) impact players next season at the Bantam A level are: Kevin Fellows (PL), Sam Huff (OMG), Ben Meyer (Crow River), Matt Valure (Hermantown) & Jack Kelly (OMG).

the_juiceman wrote:An All-state team at PeeWee? Really?! Give me a break!

Agreed.

What's the problem? It's better than just having dads do the hyping. They'd be on a list, getting drafted, and moving away from home in Canada.

hockey59 wrote:Congrats to all the players whose name appears on the All State PeeWee A list...certainly a nice honor to be mentioned among the State's best.

I suspect there are other top level players whose name did not appear on the list (too).

What will be interesting to see (this spring and summer) and next winter season...is how playing a season of essentially "no check" hockey affected the development of the top PeeWee players.

Five (who will be) impact players next season at the Bantam A level are: Kevin Fellows (PL), Sam Huff (OMG), Ben Meyer (Crow River), Matt Valure (Hermantown) & Jack Kelly (OMG).

I would say all of them will be high impact players in Bantams next year. I believe only one player on the list will be a Pee Wee next year.

I'm still looking for an answer from my original questions. How is this list made and who makes it??

I'd say the first three listed were probably the best this year and had the biggest impact...I would also say Kelly is up there two with those three but the ones that stood out to me the most this year are the three at the top of the lost. Also I'm wondering if the list is in order??

HOCKEYlover1919 wrote:I'd say the first three listed were probably the best this year and had the biggest impact...I would also say Kelly is up there two with those three but the ones that stood out to me the most this year are the three at the top of the lost. Also I'm wondering if the list is in order??

Seriously, now we want the order?

While we wait for that, let’s check in on the Granite Falls Mite Jamboree All State Team!! Keep your eye on the kid who had three shutouts by laying down across the goal mouth. SSM is on hold as we speak.

Give me a break………….I'll assume the list of individuals was put together by the same author who couldn't stop writing about Centennial last month. Funny, the Cougars don't make it to state and the only list they're on is an endangered list. The best part about Pee Wee hockey is “change.” Some where in MN there is a Pee Wee in only his third year of competitive hockey. In 7 years he will be playing for the Gophers along side a former Pee Wee B1.

Prior Lake won in Alex because they have the best and most balanced TEAM. No question they have a few individuals at the head of the class, but that alone does not win a title. There were several teams at State that thought they could win it with 2 studs, but we all know how that ended (a never ending thread centered around a large goalie comes to mind).

By publishing such a list, our job of coaching the philosophy of “team” becomes near impossible. For now, let the Grandparents handle the recognition of the 12-13 year olds.

I would say it is now officially undisputable. Fredrick61 has lost his marbles.

Not that many people would question the list contains some good Pee-Wee hockey players. But how incredibly stupid to have one senile old man compile a list of 12-13 year olds.

Fred likes to talk about what is wrong in the world of youth hockey. Well Fred, your commentary adnausem and creation of a list naming names of 12-13 year olds moves yourself to the top of the most perposterous idiots list!

NCs wrote:

HOCKEYlover1919 wrote:I'd say the first three listed were probably the best this year and had the biggest impact...I would also say Kelly is up there two with those three but the ones that stood out to me the most this year are the three at the top of the lost. Also I'm wondering if the list is in order??

Seriously, now we want the order?

While we wait for that, let’s check in on the Granite Falls Mite Jamboree All State Team!! Keep your eye on the kid who had three shutouts by laying down across the goal mouth. SSM is on hold as we speak.

Give me a break………….I'll assume the list of individuals was put together by the same author who couldn't stop writing about Centennial last month. Funny, the Cougars don't make it to state and the only list they're on is an endangered list. The best part about Pee Wee hockey is “change.” Some where in MN there is a Pee Wee in only his third year of competitive hockey. In 7 years he will be playing for the Gophers along side a former Pee Wee B1.

Prior Lake won in Alex because they have the best and most balanced TEAM. No question they have a few individuals at the head of the class, but that alone does not win a title. There were several teams at State that thought they could win it with 2 studs, but we all know how that ended (a never ending thread centered around a large goalie comes to mind).

By publishing such a list, our job of coaching the philosophy of “team” becomes near impossible. For now, let the Grandparents handle the recognition of the 12-13 year olds.

Saw that mite kid, lifted his leg once to rob a kid of a goal... amazing

Centennial lost to the eventual runner up and third place team in state ... nothing to be ashamed of and I don't think that was unwarranted coverage last month. They were a good team, just like you said was needed to win state. Agree to much emphasis on single kid carrying a team to state ... it would take a TEAM because there were many good TEAMS.

If you don't agree with this or care then don't read or post. I for one don't see any harm in this list. Maybe I'll watch for them at Bantam's next year.

BadgerBob82 wrote:I would say it is now officially undisputable. Fredrick61 has lost his marbles.

Not that many people would question the list contains some good Pee-Wee hockey players. But how incredibly stupid to have one senile old man compile a list of 12-13 year olds.

Fred likes to talk about what is wrong in the world of youth hockey. Well Fred, your commentary adnausem and creation of a list naming names of 12-13 year olds moves yourself to the top of the most perposterous idiots list!

Many enjoy Fred's commentary. You issues with Fred are spilling over into everything else or are you mad because you fell to number 2 ?

BadgerBob82 wrote:I would say it is now officially undisputable. Fredrick61 has lost his marbles.

Not that many people would question the list contains some good Pee-Wee hockey players. But how incredibly stupid to have one senile old man compile a list of 12-13 year olds.

Fred likes to talk about what is wrong in the world of youth hockey. Well Fred, your commentary adnausem and creation of a list naming names of 12-13 year olds moves yourself to the top of the most perposterous idiots list!

What a cheap shot that was, as you sit behind your keyboard. At least Fred doesn`t hide himself as some anonymous poster, everyone knows who he is. Fred thank you for all the time you put in to the Peewee A level, much appreciated.

2112: Maybe you can enlighten us as to who Fredrick61 really is then? Speaking of anonymous posters, is 2112 your real name?

Fred does a great job reporting scores and recounts games nicely. When he editorializes and stirs the pot, I do have an issue with Fred and will call him out each time.

I would think having a blogger like Fredrick61 publishing a list of 12-13 year old names is just plain wrong?

Let's just say had he logged on to this site, and posted his list of names, it would have been deleted as names of 12-13 year old kids are not to be used.

BadgerBob82 wrote:2112: Maybe you can enlighten us as to who Fredrick61 really is then? Speaking of anonymous posters, is 2112 your real name?

Fred does a great job reporting scores and recounts games nicely. When he editorializes and stirs the pot, I do have an issue with Fred and will call him out each time.

I would think having a blogger like Fredrick61 publishing a list of 12-13 year old names is just plain wrong?

Let's just say had he logged on to this site, and posted his list of names, it would have been deleted as names of 12-13 year old kids are not to be used.

Bob i don`t think you need to attack him for his list, he didn`t post it on this site, it was linked here. The list was done in a positive manner. No reason for you to call him out, he does alot of positive things for Minnesota Hockey. He does make mistakes but some people take things too personal, relax its just a game to be enjoyed. Fred is the guy with the cowboy hat, sorry i thought that was a given.

We need to clear this up. Fredrick61 did not make the list of Peewee "A" players. Fredrick61 no longer writes for our site, he has decided to take his views to another site. That said MHR is expanding for next season and will have multiple writers in various areas of the state to cover more than the metro area.

MHR STAFF

Fred goes to more peewee games than probably all of us put together. I like Fred. Keep up the good work.

Fred is the guy in the BLACK cowboy hat.

All we need now is honorable mention list

Eagle86 wrote:

hockey59 wrote:Congrats to all the players whose name appears on the All State PeeWee A list...certainly a nice honor to be mentioned among the State's best.

I suspect there are other top level players whose name did not appear on the list (too).

What will be interesting to see (this spring and summer) and next winter season...is how playing a season of essentially "no check" hockey affected the development of the top PeeWee players.

Five (who will be) impact players next season at the Bantam A level are: Kevin Fellows (PL), Sam Huff (OMG), Ben Meyer (Crow River), Matt Valure (Hermantown) & Jack Kelly (OMG).

I would say all of them will be high impact players in Bantams next year. I believe only one player on the list will be a Pee Wee next year.

I'm still looking for an answer from my original questions. How is this list made and who makes it??

Minnesota’s Peewee “A” All-State Team

#8 KEVIN FELLOWS (F)– PRIOR LAKE

#6 SAM HUFF (F)– OSSEO/MAPLE GROVE

#15 HENRY ENEBAK (F) – LAKEVILLE SOUTH

#27 BEN MEYER (F)– CROW RIVER

#17 GRANT MISHMASH (F) – EDINA

#14 AUSTIN PRATT (F)– LAKEVILLE SOUTH

#6 NATE HORN (F) – ELK RIVER

#3 JACK KELLY (D)– OSSEO/MAPLE GROVE

#15 SCOTT REEDY (F) – PRIOR LAKE

#4 MATT VALURE (F) – HERMANTOWN

#5 JOSH ESS (D) – LAKEVILLE SOUTH

#31 DAYTON RASMUSSEN (G) – EDEN PRAIRE

#31 BEN MEYERS (G) – ELK RIVER

#18 NOLAN SULLIVAN (F) – EDEN PRAIRE

#42 TODD SCOTT (G) – STMA

#9 JAKE PARISEAN (F) – ROCHESTER RED

#9 MATT STANTON (F) – STILLWATER

#13 COLTON MURPHY (D) – WAYZATA BLUE

#10 REED SMITH (F/D) – LAKEVILLE SOUTH

Above is the MHR list. I'm sure all are very talented players. Based on observations (from last summer), the five players noted earlier won't have any problem adjusting to the increased level of physical play at the Bantam A level (can't speak for the rest because I haven't watched them play as much as those noted).

Even in past years (when checking was allowed in PeeWee's)...my assessment has been (that) the adjustment from a physical standpoint from PeeWee A to Bantam A is a slightly bigger adjustment than from Bantam A to HS Varsity.

Got a feeling that adjustment gap will only be wider going forward...based on the USA mandated rule changes at the PeeWee level.

interesting that there were many more forwards than D picked.

hockey59 wrote:

Eagle86 wrote:

hockey59 wrote:Congrats to all the players whose name appears on the All State PeeWee A list...certainly a nice honor to be mentioned among the State's best.

I suspect there are other top level players whose name did not appear on the list (too).

What will be interesting to see (this spring and summer) and next winter season...is how playing a season of essentially "no check" hockey affected the development of the top PeeWee players.

Five (who will be) impact players next season at the Bantam A level are: Kevin Fellows (PL), Sam Huff (OMG), Ben Meyer (Crow River), Matt Valure (Hermantown) & Jack Kelly (OMG).

I would say all of them will be high impact players in Bantams next year. I believe only one player on the list will be a Pee Wee next year.

I'm still looking for an answer from my original questions. How is this list made and who makes it??

Minnesota’s Peewee “A” All-State Team

#8 KEVIN FELLOWS (F)– PRIOR LAKE

#6 SAM HUFF (F)– OSSEO/MAPLE GROVE

#15 HENRY ENEBAK (F) – LAKEVILLE SOUTH

#27 BEN MEYER (F)– CROW RIVER

#17 GRANT MISHMASH (F) – EDINA

#14 AUSTIN PRATT (F)– LAKEVILLE SOUTH

#6 NATE HORN (F) – ELK RIVER

#3 JACK KELLY (D)– OSSEO/MAPLE GROVE

#15 SCOTT REEDY (F) – PRIOR LAKE

#4 MATT VALURE (F) – HERMANTOWN

#5 JOSH ESS (D) – LAKEVILLE SOUTH

#31 DAYTON RASMUSSEN (G) – EDEN PRAIRE

#31 BEN MEYERS (G) – ELK RIVER

#18 NOLAN SULLIVAN (F) – EDEN PRAIRE

#42 TODD SCOTT (G) – STMA

#9 JAKE PARISEAN (F) – ROCHESTER RED

#9 MATT STANTON (F) – STILLWATER

#13 COLTON MURPHY (D) – WAYZATA BLUE

#10 REED SMITH (F/D) – LAKEVILLE SOUTH

Above is the MHR list. I'm sure all are very talented players. Based on observations (from last summer), the five players noted earlier won't have any problem adjusting to the increased level of physical play at the Bantam A level (can't speak for the rest because I haven't watched them play as much as those noted).

Even in past years (when checking was allowed in PeeWee's)...my assessment has been (that) the adjustment from a physical standpoint from PeeWee A to Bantam A is a slightly bigger adjustment than from Bantam A to HS Varsity.

Got a feeling that adjustment gap will only be wider going forward...based on the USA mandated rule changes at the PeeWee level.

I'm just a little uncomfortable with a list like this at the Peewee A level. There are some very obvious names on this list that everyone knows about. The problem is, there are some names on the list that are not even the 2nd or 3rd best players on their teams. The top kids on their teams are not mentioned. I suppose if they had a great game one night and the top player has a down night it is possible??? I love the the 2nd and 3rd ranked players on these teams but the list can be a little off if you ask me. Maybe you should ask all coaches who their top three players are at mid-season next year and then go watch these top players yourself. The list is just not needed at peewee's.

This list is just plain silly. only 12 Associations represented out of what 70 or 80? and only two from outside the greater metro? What's the point? just let the kids be kids. It sends the completely wrong message about youth hockey.