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Machine tournament Schedule
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:25 pm
by EnjoyTheShow
My understanding is that the machine teams have been very practice focused in the past. This year they have 7 tournaments this year. One of which is the Warrior Cup. I can't figure out why a top level invite team would play in that tournament. Not a knock on that tournament at all, just not a good fit for that team.
Tournaments are:
Nike Bauer Chicago
Independent
Subway Winnipeg
Las Vegas AAA
Easton Cup
Caribou CUP
STARS AND STRIPES
Thoughts?
Re: Machine tournament Schedule
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:34 pm
by muckandgrind
EnjoyTheShow wrote:My understanding is that the machine teams have been very practice focused in the past. This year they have 7 tournaments this year. One of which is the Warrior Cup. I can't figure out why a top level invite team would play in that tournament. Not a knock on that tournament at all, just not a good fit for that team.
Tournaments are:
Nike Bauer Chicago
Independent
Subway Winnipeg
Las Vegas AAA
Easton Cup
Caribou CUP
STARS AND STRIPES
Thoughts?
Just a guess, but maybe they scheduled tournaments like the Warrior Cup to give their practice players a chance to participate in some games.
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:53 pm
by TheJet
Thoughts? Yes - So glad I'm not a part of it. The costs associated with these type of trips would not be worthy of the benefit. My son will have 5 tournaments, all local - hooray!
Re: Machine tournament Schedule
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:47 pm
by High Off The Glass
EnjoyTheShow wrote:My understanding is that the machine teams have been very practice focused in the past. This year they have 7 tournaments this year. One of which is the Warrior Cup. I can't figure out why a top level invite team would play in that tournament. Not a knock on that tournament at all, just not a good fit for that team.
Tournaments are:
Nike Bauer Chicago
Independent
Subway Winnipeg
Las Vegas AAA
Easton Cup
Caribou CUP
STARS AND STRIPES
Thoughts?
Pulled out of the Meltdown to go to Chicago (didn't want to play Blades). Las Vegas is a weeklong tournament (Bernie in Sin City, now I've seen it all). It's a very expensive summer for the boy's in orange. At least the Stars and Stripes tournament is FREE
Re: Machine tournament Schedule
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:04 pm
by HockeyDad41
High Off The Glass wrote:EnjoyTheShow wrote:My understanding is that the machine teams have been very practice focused in the past. This year they have 7 tournaments this year. One of which is the Warrior Cup. I can't figure out why a top level invite team would play in that tournament. Not a knock on that tournament at all, just not a good fit for that team.
Tournaments are:
Nike Bauer Chicago
Independent
Subway Winnipeg
Las Vegas AAA
Easton Cup
Caribou CUP
STARS AND STRIPES
Thoughts?
Pulled out of the Meltdown to go to Chicago
(didn't want to play Blades). Las Vegas is a weeklong tournament (Bernie in Sin City, now I've seen it all). It's a very expensive summer for the boy's in orange. At least the Stars and Stripes tournament is FREE
So are you saying that Bernie or someone from the Machine teams saw that the Blades were in the Meltdown and they pulled out because they were too scared to play them?
You're right though I bet the expense is really up there. That's a lot of traveling.
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:47 pm
by old goalie85
I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't want to play one of the other " true AAA teams" .. I mean that is the goal. Isn't it???
Re: Machine tournament Schedule
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:51 pm
by Wildcathcky
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Pulled out of the Meltdown to go to Chicago (didn't want to play Blades). Las Vegas is a weeklong tournament (Bernie in Sin City, now I've seen it all). It's a very expensive summer for the boy's in orange. At least the Stars and Stripes tournament is FREE[/quote]
I doubt that the 99 Machine is dodging the 99 Blades by not playing in the Meltdown. Those two teams seem to have a pretty healthy respect for each other and like to compete against each other. They probably just wanted to go to Chicago for a good tournament.
Re: Machine tournament Schedule
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:56 pm
by council member retired
[quote="Wildcathcky"][/quote]
Pulled out of the Meltdown to go to Chicago (didn't want to play Blades). Las Vegas is a weeklong tournament (Bernie in Sin City, now I've seen it all). It's a very expensive summer for the boy's in orange. At least the Stars and Stripes tournament is FREE[/quote]
I doubt that the 99 Machine is dodging the 99 Blades by not playing in the Meltdown. Those two teams seem to have a pretty healthy respect for each other and like to compete against each other. They probably just wanted to go to Chicago for a good tournament.[/quote]
A nice piece of pie and a Cubs game
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:46 pm
by puttingonthefoil
Kinda funny how "The Alliance" was to draw the outsiders into the Orange fold. At least that's the original intentions. Now that hasn't worked out.
So the "rest" of the AAA teams start the Warrior Cup & Caribou Cup. These two tournies have done a great job with the "outcasts".
Now the 99 Machine is in the Warrior Cup???? Alot of pride & ego here folks & we all know what pride leads to!
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:43 am
by HockeyDad41
2010 Warrior Cup AAA Tournament
2010 Teams Commited
•Minnesota Legacy
•Manitoba Mustangs
•Minnesota Magicians
•CMH Kodiaks (Colorado)
•Northern Storm
•Lake Superior Stars
•Northern Wings
•Minnesota Edge
•Reebok Nationals
•Jr. Beavers
•Minnesota Rockets
•Breakaway Hockey
•Jr. North Stars
•Team Warrior
•South Metro Grizzlies
•Total Hockey
Don't see the Machine on this list from the website.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:52 am
by InigoMontoya
It wasn't in the original list of 7.
Re: Machine tournament Schedule
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:18 am
by takeitwide
HockeyDad41 wrote:High Off The Glass wrote:EnjoyTheShow wrote:My understanding is that the machine teams have been very practice focused in the past. This year they have 7 tournaments this year. One of which is the Warrior Cup. I can't figure out why a top level invite team would play in that tournament. Not a knock on that tournament at all, just not a good fit for that team.
Tournaments are:
Nike Bauer Chicago
Independent
Subway Winnipeg
Las Vegas AAA
Easton Cup
Caribou CUP
STARS AND STRIPES
Thoughts?
Pulled out of the Meltdown to go to Chicago
(didn't want to play Blades). Las Vegas is a weeklong tournament (Bernie in Sin City, now I've seen it all). It's a very expensive summer for the boy's in orange. At least the Stars and Stripes tournament is FREE
So are you saying that Bernie or someone from the Machine teams saw that the Blades were in the Meltdown and they pulled out because they were too scared to play them?
You're right though I bet the expense is really up there. That's a lot of traveling.
Just imagin between his Fire and Machine teams what some of the families have shelled they must really believe BM when he tells them that 1 in 6 of his players go onto D1 hockey what a joke. As for not wanting to play the Blades who knows more likly just like Chicago better or it because the Blades elected to not defend there title in the Star's and Stripes which BM has posted that they won in his brochure.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:24 pm
by observer
That's too many tournaments. And, 3 out of towners. No thanks.
Seems like we have a lot of teams making trips to Chicago to play their top teams but I don't see the Chicago teams traveling to Minnesota with anywhere near the same frequency. I know Chicago also hosts some tourneys that are considered among the best. Just say no to Chicago and maybe we can get them to travel here. Maybe it's because they've already spent $20,000 on their season, with several trips, and most of our teams and families haven't spent anywhere near that.
Re: Machine tournament Schedule
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:11 pm
by buttend
EnjoyTheShow wrote:My understanding is that the machine teams have been very practice focused in the past. This year they have 7 tournaments this year. One of which is the Warrior Cup. I can't figure out why a top level invite team would play in that tournament. Not a knock on that tournament at all, just not a good fit for that team.
Tournaments are:
Nike Bauer Chicago
Independent
Subway Winnipeg
Las Vegas AAA
Easton Cup
Caribou CUP
STARS AND STRIPES
Thoughts?
Each Machine team has different events. I doubt a single team is playing in every one of these tournaments. One of the Machine teams is playing in 5 tournaments, they are.....
Chi-Town Schuffle
Stars and Stripes
Subway AAA
Las Vagas
Caribou Cup
Re: Machine tournament Schedule
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:29 pm
by buttend
EnjoyTheShow wrote:My understanding is that the machine teams have been very practice focused in the past. This year they have 7 tournaments this year. One of which is the Warrior Cup. I can't figure out why a top level invite team would play in that tournament. Not a knock on that tournament at all, just not a good fit for that team.
Tournaments are:
Nike Bauer Chicago
Independent
Subway Winnipeg
Las Vegas AAA
Easton Cup
Caribou CUP
STARS AND STRIPES
Thoughts?
Blades Tournaments 2010
Mn Meltdown ( Mpls)
Brick ( Edmonton)
Showdown in Motown ( Detroit)
Prospects (Toronto)
Subway AAA ( Winnepeg)
Cougar Classic ( Chicago)
Lake Superior Stars ( Duluth)
Caribou Classic ( Mpls)
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:04 pm
by observer
Ouch.
I think, as the earlier poster suggested, anytime you mention an off season tourney schedule you should specify which team. As an example, The Brick, and the accompanying schedule, must be for the 2000 Blades.
All sounds very cool, and fun, just expensive.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:04 pm
by puttingonthefoil
As far as I know the 99 Machine is in the Warrior tourney.
Here it is, right from their webpage:
,“The Machine” quickly became one of the top '96 teams in North America. They have made it to the championship game of every '96 tournament they have ever played in both in the US and Canada. They have won every tournament but one.
I don't know if "lying" is the right word but this is NOT the truth. See if the 96 team even got into the final game in Winnipeg & Calgary last summer....NOPE!
Honesty???
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:41 pm
by northwoods oldtimer
“The Machine” quickly became one of the top '96 teams in North America. They have made it to the championship game of every '96 tournament they have ever played in both in the US and Canada. They have won every tournament but one.
Probably call it "blending the truth"!

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:36 am
by play4fun
puttingonthefoil wrote:As far as I know the 99 Machine is in the Warrior tourney.
Here it is, right from their webpage:
,“The Machine” quickly became one of the top '96 teams in North America. They have made it to the championship game of every '96 tournament they have ever played in both in the US and Canada. They have won every tournament but one.
I don't know if "lying" is the right word but this is NOT the truth. See if the 96 team even got into the final game in Winnipeg & Calgary last summer....NOPE!
Honesty???
Probably more an issue of needing to update the site. You left off the rest of the quote.
[With the same development strategy and focus as with 88s,“The Machine” quickly became one of the top '96 teams in North America. They have made it to the championship game of every '96 tournament they have ever played in both in the US and Canada. They have won every tournament but one. It wasn’t long and we were approached by many families about getting that same kind of training for their players. Since then, we have added Machine teams at most all levels and in 2006 started a second AAA club using this same training model.
Now in 2008 we have added two more AAA clubs bringing the total to 4 AAA clubs.]
I'm guessing that the 96 record cited was through 2007, based on the "now in 2008" language.
Not a big deal.
