Which New Prague shouldn't be that high and definitely not in front of Faribault if there not gonna even have a higher seed then themGopherHockey wrote:Not sure what rankings you are using, but New Prague is ranked 13th one spot ahead of Faribault and one spot behind Lourdes according to FollowThePuck.com.tnt wrote:the teams are not better this year, in years past many more top rated teams in section 1A, how can you possibly say that there are better teams this year when only Lourdes and Falcons are in the top 20, that makes no sense at all
Who will win 1A??
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You clearly do not understand what we are saying. The TEAM PLAY is better. As in TEAM WORK. Like I said before, this section took a huge hit with the class of 09 leaving...NP's Lapic, and Adams, Lourdes Voigt, Funk, etc....What we are saying is that even with those star INDIVIDUAL players, the teams are coming together as teams and are not relying on individual players....so yes the TEAM PLAY is up this year, from what i have seen...too me there is no one line that is leaps and bouds better than another...yes obviously there are better players but there is not the gap there was last year.tnt wrote:the teams are not better this year, in years past many more top rated teams in section 1A, how can you possibly say that there are better teams this year when only Lourdes and Falcons are in the top 20, that makes no sense at all
Faribault beat Rochester Mayo 8-0 tonight and Sean Lipinski had a hat trick.. He has been on fire of late...
I think the Falcons or the Eagles are good #1 picks but I think when it gets to tourney time a hot goalie and a couple of timely goals and any of 4 to 6 teams can win this section.. I think they can do well at state too! i always do.
Lets go Section 1
Teams that I think can win
Faribault Lourdes Red Wing New Prague Mankato West...
Depends on who get the goaltending.
Lourdes and Faribault have the most talent but the others have enough to get it done if they get the bounces.
I am very fired up for a great tourney..
Lets get it on!!
Regarding talented players from last season Cole Peterson, Andrew Bruggeman are not playing but I know they could be and these guys are having good seasons in the NAHL Pete Spratte, Blake Schammel, Bryan Mitchell, Tyler Bruggeman is playing great goal in St. Louis too!!
Those guys could really play and still are playing good hockey... George Noesen is at SJU also.
Now it is a new groups chance to make the plays and make the difference good luck to all the boys.
I think the Falcons or the Eagles are good #1 picks but I think when it gets to tourney time a hot goalie and a couple of timely goals and any of 4 to 6 teams can win this section.. I think they can do well at state too! i always do.
Lets go Section 1
Teams that I think can win
Faribault Lourdes Red Wing New Prague Mankato West...
Depends on who get the goaltending.
Lourdes and Faribault have the most talent but the others have enough to get it done if they get the bounces.
I am very fired up for a great tourney..
Lets get it on!!
Regarding talented players from last season Cole Peterson, Andrew Bruggeman are not playing but I know they could be and these guys are having good seasons in the NAHL Pete Spratte, Blake Schammel, Bryan Mitchell, Tyler Bruggeman is playing great goal in St. Louis too!!
Those guys could really play and still are playing good hockey... George Noesen is at SJU also.
Now it is a new groups chance to make the plays and make the difference good luck to all the boys.
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1 Lourdes
2-3 Faribault/ New Prague
4 AL
5 West
6 Red Wing
7 Northfield
8 East
9-12 LeCrescent, Austin, Waseca, LS-SP
thats what im thinking...Faribault's loss to AL and Lourdes will hurt them..teams that NP beat and Loss/Tied..as long as NP doesn't slip up on their two game stand this weekend I see them having a legitimate arguement for the 2 seed..
2-3 Faribault/ New Prague
4 AL
5 West
6 Red Wing
7 Northfield
8 East
9-12 LeCrescent, Austin, Waseca, LS-SP
thats what im thinking...Faribault's loss to AL and Lourdes will hurt them..teams that NP beat and Loss/Tied..as long as NP doesn't slip up on their two game stand this weekend I see them having a legitimate arguement for the 2 seed..
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They lost to Faribault...?Rushin11 wrote:1 Lourdes
2-3 Faribault/ New Prague
4 AL
5 West
6 Red Wing
7 Northfield
8 East
9-12 LeCrescent, Austin, Waseca, LS-SP
thats what im thinking...Faribault's loss to AL and Lourdes will hurt them..teams that NP beat and Loss/Tied..as long as NP doesn't slip up on their two game stand this weekend I see them having a legitimate arguement for the 2 seed..
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New Prague could win both of their games this weekend by 10 goals apiece and still will not get higher than a 3 seed. They are the one lock for seed in the top 6. Lourdes and Faribault is a coin flip for who will get the #1. AL, RW and MW all have legit arguments for a 4 seed. That leaves NP the no doubt team in the 3 seed.
looking at the MSHSL website the brackets posted for the Section 1A boys hockey tournament are different from last year in that there are 12 teams in this years section tournament compared to 11 in last years section tournament, and that this year the 5th seed does not have a first round bye like last year but must play the 12th seed in the first round, so to find out who the 12th team in this section is I went to the website Follow The Puck.Com and at the bottom of the teams listed for section 1A they have St. Peter/ Le Sueur-Henderson/Montgomery-Lonsdale/Le Center listed as the 12th team come playoff time, can anyone confirm this ???, and if this is true why is it that no one has really been aware of this, and also where do you guys think they will fit in in the seeding process, although I dont think it will matter much as I am sure they will be a bottom 3 seed, and more than likely play one game of hockey and then start thinking about which spring sport they are going to go out for this year, thanks
Yes New Prague lost to Faribault early in the season. But, Faribault lost to AL and Mound Westonka, both teams that NP beat. NP also tied Lourdes another team that beat Faribault...I wouldn't say NP is a lock at the 3 seed. They do have enough "evidence" so to speak to argue for a 2 seed. But you are correct that they probably will be the 3 seed. This just adds to the confusion that is section 1a.4AAhockeystud wrote:They lost to Faribault...?Rushin11 wrote:1 Lourdes
2-3 Faribault/ New Prague
4 AL
5 West
6 Red Wing
7 Northfield
8 East
9-12 LeCrescent, Austin, Waseca, LS-SP
thats what im thinking...Faribault's loss to AL and Lourdes will hurt them..teams that NP beat and Loss/Tied..as long as NP doesn't slip up on their two game stand this weekend I see them having a legitimate arguement for the 2 seed..
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Section 1A teams that have been ranked this yeartnt wrote:I have seen all these teams in this section play this year, and I can tell you that this section has the least amount of overall talent in it than it has had in the past 5 years, and this years top one or two seeded teams weather it be Lourdes or Faribault would not have even been seeded in the top five of this section say in the last three years, come playoff time, and I am not saying this to be a jerk, its just a the plain simple truth, there are not (overall) the same amount of quality skaters (goal scorers) or net minders as in years past, in the past three years Section 1A had 5 sometimes 6 teams rated by Lets Play Hockey in the top 20 in the state, its not even close this year, and it shows, the quality of play is way down thus the quality level of the teams are way down, this being said does not mean it wont be a good and fun section tournament to watch, it should be very competitive, just not quite the level of talent of teams as in the past three to five previous seasons
Lourdes majority of year
Faribault all year long
Northfield beginning of season
Red Wing middle of season
New Prague last of season
I don't know if AL ever was
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How do you consider those two stars? They have 5 points between the two of them. Mason has 18. Either you are Brent Jones or you need to go take your meds.Rushin11 wrote:Its almost time for seeding...will that happen Sunday?
On another note, New Prague plays a decent Shako team tonight, they will be looking for junior stars Brent Jones and Curt Brezina to step up and play big, they are an important part of the team. Cole Mason is also a factor but not as much as Jones.
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Rushin11 wrote:Rushin11 - You've taken a perfectly good thread and turned it into your own personal couch trip. Keep the 2nd grade personal attacks off the forum or keep them limited to your own threads.GopherHockey wrote:Rushin11 wrote:Jones is a beast...nuff said..watch him tonight...beat he gets a hatty![]()
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my bet is Jones with a hatty, assists to brezina on two and Andy Kes on one
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#1-2 Lourdes/Faribault
Faribault is not a team you want to play right now, they have scored 5 or more goals in each of their last 5 games. Their offense is clicking right now and it won't stop as they face LSP today.
Lourdes has been playing well all season. When they came to Mankato personally I saw they have a lot of team speed. Definitely can play well against top line competition showed it against Breck and STA. With the win over Faribault and knowing how heavy head-to-head counts I give the edge to Lourdes for the #1 seed.
#3 New Prague
Stated before, only other team in the section with an over .500 record. Plays good competition in the Missota conference. Losses mainly to AHA has beaten Red Wing and Northfield and that tie with Lourdes. I think New Prague is overlooked with names like Lourdes and Faribault. Joe Morris is a very good tender and if he gets hot, I could easily see New Prague come out and upset the other top two seeds.
#4,5,6 Albert Lea/Mankato West/Red Wing
This is where things get blurry. Albert Lea has loss 2 of the last three games (win over Austin 9-1). They got blown out by Mankato West (6-2) and lost to Mayo (7-5). They lack goaltending and it needs to improve for Albert Lea. They have arguably the best coach in the section with Roy Nystrom and I expect him to get his boys ready for a section run. Earlier in the season they have won important games over Red Wing, Faribault, Northfield and Mankato West (3-2 ot). That is Albert Lea's argument for the 4th seed.
For Mankato West, in the beginning of the season you would have never guessed they would be in the talk for the 4th seed. As of late the Scarlets have seem to finally know what it takes to win games. The Tuesday night game vs. Lourdes showed how far they have really come. Goalie Kaufman has shown he can be a factor, when he is on. Coming into sections, West has a good combination of experience along with young players who will need step up. If they get more production from their 3rd line, they will be a huge threat to any of the teams in the section.
The Wingers have played through their tough schedule with some success with one win under .500. Maybe one of the hardest teams to seed because the only teams they play in the section are the ones from their conference (New Prague, Northfield) with the exception of Albert Lea. With a loss to both Albert Lea, and New Prague and a win over Northfield. You could almost say that they own the #6 seed. Their goaltending is poor with a .844 sv%.
#7 Northfield
Losses to New Prague, Mankato West, Red Wing but an early season win over Lourdes is what is on the resume for Northfield. Though the win over Lourdes way early in the season will be a factor, they haven't played with near enough consistency losing to three other section teams later in the season. I believe the three losses will cover up the win over Lourdes in which it probably should.
#8 Mankato East
At some point in their season they have likely blown out 3 of the 4 bottom teams, once maybe twice. They have a great first line. You could make an argument for a lower seed because of their upsetting loss to Austin (5-4). Great three players with Ries, Billiar and Willaert.
#9-12
LSP, Wascea, Lacrescent, Austin
In no particular order, if I were to rank them I would have to go with Wascea at 9, Austin at 10, LaCrescent at 11 and LH-SP at 12.
Faribault is not a team you want to play right now, they have scored 5 or more goals in each of their last 5 games. Their offense is clicking right now and it won't stop as they face LSP today.
Lourdes has been playing well all season. When they came to Mankato personally I saw they have a lot of team speed. Definitely can play well against top line competition showed it against Breck and STA. With the win over Faribault and knowing how heavy head-to-head counts I give the edge to Lourdes for the #1 seed.
#3 New Prague
Stated before, only other team in the section with an over .500 record. Plays good competition in the Missota conference. Losses mainly to AHA has beaten Red Wing and Northfield and that tie with Lourdes. I think New Prague is overlooked with names like Lourdes and Faribault. Joe Morris is a very good tender and if he gets hot, I could easily see New Prague come out and upset the other top two seeds.
#4,5,6 Albert Lea/Mankato West/Red Wing
This is where things get blurry. Albert Lea has loss 2 of the last three games (win over Austin 9-1). They got blown out by Mankato West (6-2) and lost to Mayo (7-5). They lack goaltending and it needs to improve for Albert Lea. They have arguably the best coach in the section with Roy Nystrom and I expect him to get his boys ready for a section run. Earlier in the season they have won important games over Red Wing, Faribault, Northfield and Mankato West (3-2 ot). That is Albert Lea's argument for the 4th seed.
For Mankato West, in the beginning of the season you would have never guessed they would be in the talk for the 4th seed. As of late the Scarlets have seem to finally know what it takes to win games. The Tuesday night game vs. Lourdes showed how far they have really come. Goalie Kaufman has shown he can be a factor, when he is on. Coming into sections, West has a good combination of experience along with young players who will need step up. If they get more production from their 3rd line, they will be a huge threat to any of the teams in the section.
The Wingers have played through their tough schedule with some success with one win under .500. Maybe one of the hardest teams to seed because the only teams they play in the section are the ones from their conference (New Prague, Northfield) with the exception of Albert Lea. With a loss to both Albert Lea, and New Prague and a win over Northfield. You could almost say that they own the #6 seed. Their goaltending is poor with a .844 sv%.
#7 Northfield
Losses to New Prague, Mankato West, Red Wing but an early season win over Lourdes is what is on the resume for Northfield. Though the win over Lourdes way early in the season will be a factor, they haven't played with near enough consistency losing to three other section teams later in the season. I believe the three losses will cover up the win over Lourdes in which it probably should.
#8 Mankato East
At some point in their season they have likely blown out 3 of the 4 bottom teams, once maybe twice. They have a great first line. You could make an argument for a lower seed because of their upsetting loss to Austin (5-4). Great three players with Ries, Billiar and Willaert.
#9-12
LSP, Wascea, Lacrescent, Austin
In no particular order, if I were to rank them I would have to go with Wascea at 9, Austin at 10, LaCrescent at 11 and LH-SP at 12.
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couple of questions to consider when looking at your seedings. I agree for the most part, but two questions to consider seeding 4-5-6: what does red wing's win over south saint paul do for them? What does west's embarassing loss to owatonna do?scarlethockey33 wrote:#1-2 Lourdes/Faribault
Faribault is not a team you want to play right now, they have scored 5 or more goals in each of their last 5 games. Their offense is clicking right now and it won't stop as they face LSP today. Lourdes has been playing well all season. When they came to Mankato personally I saw they have a lot of team speed. Definitely can play well against top line competition showed it against Breck and STA. With the win over Faribault and knowing how heavy head-to-head counts I give the edge to Lourdes for the #1 seed.
#3 New Prague
Stated before, only other team in the section with an over .500 record. Plays good competition in the Missota conference. Losses mainly to AHA has beaten Red Wing and Northfield and that tie with Lourdes. I think New Prague is overlooked with names like Lourdes and Faribault. Joe Morris is a very good tender and if he gets hot, I could easily see New Prague come out and upset the other top two seeds.
#4,5,6 Albert Lea/Mankato West/Red Wing
This is where things get blurry. Albert Lea has loss 2 of the last three games (win over Austin 9-1). They got blown out by Mankato West (6-2) and lost to Mayo (7-5). They lack goaltending needs to improve for Albert Lea. They have arguably the best coach in the section with Roy Nystrom and I expect him to get his boys ready for a section run. Earlier in the season they have won important games over Red Wing, Faribault, Northfield and Mankato West (3-2 ot). That is Albert Lea's argument for the 4th seed.
For Mankato West, in the beginning of the season you would have never guessed they would be in the talk for the 4th seed. As of late the Scarlets have seem to finally know what it takes to win games. The Tuesday night game vs. Lourdes showed how far they have really come. Goalie Kaufman has shown he can be a factor, when he is on. Coming into sections, West has a good combination of experience along with young players who will need step up. If they get more production from their 3rd line, they will be a huge threat to any of the teams in the section.
The Wingers have played through their tough schedule with some success with one win under .500. Maybe one of the hardest teams to seed because the only teams they play in the section are the ones from their conference (New Prague, Northfield) with the exception of Albert Lea. With a loss to both Albert Lea, and New Prague and a win over Northfield. You could almost say that they own the #6 seed. Their goaltending is poor with a .844 sv%.
#7 Northfield
Losses to New Prague, Mankato West, Red Wing but an early season win over Lourdes is what is on the resume for Northfield. Though the win over Lourdes way early in the season will be a factor, they haven't played with near enough consistency losing to three other section teams later in the season. I believe the three losses will cover up the win over Lourdes in which it probably should.
#8 Mankato East
At some point in their season they have likely blown out 3 of the 4 bottom teams. Once maybe twice, they have a great first line. You could make an argument for a lower seed because of their upsetting loss to Austin (5-4). Great three players with Ries, Billiar and Willaert.
#9-11
LSP, Wascea, Lacrescent, Austin
In no particular order, if I were to rank them I would have to go with Wascea at 9, Austin at 10, LaCrescent at 11 and LH-SP at 12.
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I think the win for red wing will surely help them. I thought about making a comment about that game. Last year SSP was a great team, with a great tender in Adam Wilcox who was talked about alongside Gothberg at some points last year. Wilcox this year has came down to reality and has become somewhat "human".
It helps Red Wing come out of the regular season with some fire. In terms of seedings what help does it do? I think it shows what Red Wing is capable of, but you know what Red Wing has shown inconsistent play all season with an early win vs. Lourdes, to losing to New Prague, to losing to Shako but then beating a mentionable SSP team. Red Wing, personally confuses me if I were a seeder you have to put them somewhere in the middle, figure out where a.l. and west go and you fill red wing in the blank spot.
As for Mankato West's embarrassing loss to Owatonna, you know it came to a surprise to me as well. My explaination for that game is West got caught into a shootout type game and they had to play a high scoring game due to some unfortunate goals. That oddly got past Kaufman who had a very rough night. West needs to keep the game at a low score in order to play their type of game.
Should the lost be a worry for Mankato West? I don't think so, it was a bad game, goaltender had a bunch of pucks that just barely pass the line. Fatigue could've been a factor as well playing Albert Lea, Lourdes and Owatonna in a 4 day stretch. As for seedings they could drop 1 spot or even stay the same. I would be really surprised if that loss really got West to drop two spots.
It helps Red Wing come out of the regular season with some fire. In terms of seedings what help does it do? I think it shows what Red Wing is capable of, but you know what Red Wing has shown inconsistent play all season with an early win vs. Lourdes, to losing to New Prague, to losing to Shako but then beating a mentionable SSP team. Red Wing, personally confuses me if I were a seeder you have to put them somewhere in the middle, figure out where a.l. and west go and you fill red wing in the blank spot.
As for Mankato West's embarrassing loss to Owatonna, you know it came to a surprise to me as well. My explaination for that game is West got caught into a shootout type game and they had to play a high scoring game due to some unfortunate goals. That oddly got past Kaufman who had a very rough night. West needs to keep the game at a low score in order to play their type of game.
Should the lost be a worry for Mankato West? I don't think so, it was a bad game, goaltender had a bunch of pucks that just barely pass the line. Fatigue could've been a factor as well playing Albert Lea, Lourdes and Owatonna in a 4 day stretch. As for seedings they could drop 1 spot or even stay the same. I would be really surprised if that loss really got West to drop two spots.