elliott70 wrote:
Why not wait and pat him on the back after we see if he can make any substantial changes that help all the MH kids.
In the mean time, I am still reading and trying to digest.
I will print this stuff on or about 10am on 1/17/08 - thursday.
I will make copies for about 10 people serving on the steering committee.
Listening, acknowledging what you hear, and having clarity on the situation is half the battle mr flannel!
I am shopping at Bemidji Woolen Mills prior to the HS tourney so my son and I will show up in red and black plaid.....
elliott70 wrote:
In the mean time, I am still reading and trying to digest.
I will print this stuff on or about 10am on 1/17/08 - thursday.
I will make copies for about 10 people serving on the steering committee.
From this dumb thread?
Elliott, More Cow Bell told me that I was wrong for asking this question in the first place.
Granted, it is a small sample, but it is running 20-5 that people would 100% accept such a player. That means there's a 20% chance you'll run into someone that has a problem with it.
elliott70 wrote:
In the mean time, I am still reading and trying to digest.
I will print this stuff on or about 10am on 1/17/08 - thursday.
I will make copies for about 10 people serving on the steering committee.
From this dumb thread?
Elliott, More Cow Bell told me that I was wrong for asking this question in the first place.
Granted, it is a small sample, but it is running 20-5 that people would 100% accept such a player. That means there's a 20% chance you'll run into someone that has a problem with it.
O-Town Clown, I was wrong, your original question was just a little to close to the situation of somebody I know, and my first thought was you can't exclude a kid for trying something different and not allowing him to come back, but based upon a lot of the responses this very well could happen.appologies to O-Town.
watchdog wrote:the thread was started with a question and we have debated the answer. this forum is a good battlefield for the war on AAA hockey. first of all im all for AAA (in the summer) second of all you love hockey why would you support something that could destroy association hockey which is without a doubt the roots of hockey here in minnesota. you call for lee to ban tomass why? because he has a diffrent point of view on a very heated subject? hes not swearing or making any personal attacks. you talk about people being in it for themselves. i find that very interesting. to me its a very selfish and self serving move to abandon your association for a AAA hockey club.
BoogeyMan wrote:
Who abondoned their association for AAA hockey?
Boogey, take a look at any Fire roster. Abandoned is probably too strong of a word, but many kids are playing Fire hockey instead of for their hometown.
Cowbell - thanks. Seems like a very valid point to discuss. I'm glad you can see it.
Why would any "adult" hold any ill will over a kid or family that chose to play a season or two of Tier 1 hockey?
Do you people listen to yourselves?
statements like.."abandon their association", "ban the family forever", "hold hostility against them"....
these are frankly a joke...Minnesota Hockey is community based, played for the majority in community owned rinks that are funded by community tax payer dollars and an association manned by volunteers...sure, ban a child from playing hockey in your association because YOU don't like Tier 1. I think that kids parents who pay taxes to have the rink open that the team plays at will go just a little further to support having the child play hockey in his community based team than some disgruntled adult who can't fathom change. This is like Footloose not wanting the kids to dance....Elvis from the waist up on TV....banning the McRib (hey, when are those coming back)
allowing Tier 1 is one thing, catering to it is another, parents disowning a kid and family because they chose to try it is it's own beast and if you're one of them that's like this then shame on you for being so narrow minded. Worry about YOUR kid and don't judge others because they don't walk like you...
watchdog wrote:the thread was started with a question and we have debated the answer. this forum is a good battlefield for the war on AAA hockey. first of all im all for AAA (in the summer) second of all you love hockey why would you support something that could destroy association hockey which is without a doubt the roots of hockey here in minnesota. you call for lee to ban tomass why? because he has a diffrent point of view on a very heated subject? hes not swearing or making any personal attacks. you talk about people being in it for themselves. i find that very interesting. to me its a very selfish and self serving move to abandon your association for a AAA hockey club.
Dawg- As for banning tomASS? I was being sarcastic. He has pleaded for me to be banned at least a half dozen times. When it all comes down to it. Not one person has the correct formula. All kids develop at a different pace. Some kids love to play 24 hours a day. Some kids get burnt out. There is no way someone can tell me what's best for my kid if they don't know me.
Go Roseau! Are we going to get a repeat champion this year?
watchdog wrote:im not holding my breath on the repeat! its a very hard thing to do its fun to have a team that has a chance what else can you hope for.
I like the way he uses "We" as if he has any involvement
not in person yet - he's promised and has offered to buy me beers a few times through private messages and posts but has yet to keep his end of the bargain. I will credit it to him being a procrastinator, rather than being dishonest about his invitation.
watchdog wrote:im not holding my breath on the repeat! its a very hard thing to do its fun to have a team that has a chance what else can you hope for.
I like the way he uses "We" as if he has any involvement
We the State of Minnesota. Sorry that I didn't clarify.
not in person yet - he's promised and has offered to buy me beers a few times through private messages and posts but has yet to keep his end of the bargain. I will credit it to him being a procrastinator, rather than being dishonest about his invitation.
tomASS- I look forward to meeting you. If I remember right. I think you were going to teach me the basics of youth sports. Youth sports 101.
You wanted to justify placing your kids playing in an elite soccer program. But placing my son in Minnesota made is not acceptable.
not in person yet - he's promised and has offered to buy me beers a few times through private messages and posts but has yet to keep his end of the bargain. I will credit it to him being a procrastinator, rather than being dishonest about his invitation.
tomASS- I look forward to meeting you. If I remember right. I think you were going to teach me the basics of youth sports. Youth sports 101.
You wanted to justify placing your kids playing in an elite soccer program. But placing my son in Minnesota made is not acceptable.
No, you twist things again. You were unwilling to discover for yourself how the state youth soccer system is set up and why you can't compare it in the manner you ignorantly chose to do. So I was going to explain it in the simplest of terms for you to stop embarrassing yourself with statements lacking logic or understanding.
So you're saying your going to actually buy me a beer??? Or are you being dishonest with me?
Naw - ironrangehcy55 , no date. Someone did suggest to me that it could certainly be made into an association fund raising event though
tomASS wrote:
not in person yet - he's promised and has offered to buy me beers a few times through private messages and posts but has yet to keep his end of the bargain. I will credit it to him being a procrastinator, rather than being dishonest about his invitation.
tomASS- I look forward to meeting you. If I remember right. I think you were going to teach me the basics of youth sports. Youth sports 101.
You wanted to justify placing your kids playing in an elite soccer program. But placing my son in Minnesota made is not acceptable.
No, you twist things again. You were unwilling to discover for yourself how the state youth soccer system is set up and why you can't compare it in the manner you ignorantly chose to do. So I was going to explain it in the simplest of terms for you to stop embarrassing yourself with statements lacking logic or understanding.
So you're saying your going to actually buy me a beer??? Or are you being dishonest with me?
Naw - ironrangehcy55 , no date. Someone did suggest to me that it could certainly be made into an association fund raising event though
Perhaps I could offer my service as a moderator at this gathering -
two beer per person, minimum.
Hey, everyone's got their price.
watchdog wrote:the thread was started with a question and we have debated the answer. this forum is a good battlefield for the war on AAA hockey. first of all im all for AAA (in the summer) second of all you love hockey why would you support something that could destroy association hockey which is without a doubt the roots of hockey here in minnesota. you call for lee to ban tomass why? because he has a diffrent point of view on a very heated subject? hes not swearing or making any personal attacks. you talk about people being in it for themselves. i find that very interesting. to me its a very selfish and self serving move to abandon your association for a AAA hockey club.
Dawg- As for banning tomASS? I was being sarcastic. He has pleaded for me to be banned at least a half dozen times. When it all comes down to it. Not one person has the correct formula. All kids develop at a different pace. Some kids love to play 24 hours a day. Some kids get burnt out. There is no way someone can tell me what's best for my kid if they don't know me.
Go Roseau! Are we going to get a repeat champion this year?
Being missed here is that some times it is the parents of the players they do not want back in the association, not the player.
At times when they left it may have been due to other issues other than giving the skater a greater opportunity. Maybe they didn't like the coach, position skater playing, quality of the team, etc.
Either way it is unfortunate that the kids loose out or are put in a bad position by adults.
