who will win section 2a?

snaphock25 · Post by **snaphock25** » Fri Feb 07, 2003 2:30 pm

From the St. Cloud Times: Willmar 4, Sauk Rapids 1 WILLMAR ‹ Senior Matt Wocken tied the record for career points by a Sauk Rapids defenseman with 81 with his first-period goal, but the Storm (7-6-1 Central Lakes Conference, 12-9-1 overall) fell to the Cardinals at Willmar Civic Center. Wocken tied Scott Lochner for the record with the goal. Sauk Rapids 1 0 0 ‹ 1 Willmar 1 1 2 ‹ 4 First period: 1. W ‹ Wierschem (Roepke, Tone) 8:01 pp; 2. SR ‹ Matt Wocken (Ryan Peckskamp) 12:46 pp. Second period: 3. W ‹ Cleary (Grunder, Wahl) 5:42. Third period: 4. W ‹ Bredeson (Allinder, Wierschem) 3:46; 5. W ‹ Roepke (Kleist, Grunder) 7:59. Shots on goal: SR ‹ 10-11-4 ‹ 25; W ‹ 10-16-15 ‹ 41. Goaltenders: SR ‹ Joe Dagenais (37 saves); W ‹ Hanson (24). Well-- is this the downfall of the Storm?? 0-2 so far this week and a tough Detroit Lakes team still yet this week. I put in bold that Dagenais had 37 saves. Without Dagenais in net, I do not for see them making it anywere anymore. Was anyone at this game? By the looks of the box score, Sauk ran out of fire power and got beat up in the third. Hopefully the gas tanks over in Sauk Rapids still have some fuel left.

Beerpig · Post by **Beerpig** » Fri Feb 07, 2003 3:04 pm

Where is classAhockey, The hockeywriter, 2ahockeydude, etc. I miss the in depth analysis of the section and the discussion that follows. If you've gone elsewhere to discuss these things, I would like to join in. This is the best time of the year coming up. All the bragging in the world doesn't matter when the playoffs start!

AxelRose69 · Post by **AxelRose69** » Fri Feb 07, 2003 9:43 pm

Princeton Beat Marshall 3-2, I'll wait till Ptown gets home and he can go into more detail about the game. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/pimp.gif ALT=":hat">

Quest1Hockey · Post by **Quest1Hockey** » Fri Feb 07, 2003 11:35 pm

Any body know any details?

Thehockeyplaya · Post by **Thehockeyplaya** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 2:08 am

could you please e-mail me at schneid58@hotmail.com so I could talk to you?

ptown tigers · Post by **ptown tigers** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 2:10 am

It was a real good game. It was a totally different team then I saw tie Cathedrel, they moved the puck well and it was a back and forth game. Shots were i believe 19-16 in favor of Marshall. They scored on a Powerplay midway through the first period. The Adam Miron scored to tie it up in the 2nd, helped out by a nice forecheck in the corner by Jamie Duffner and a nice pass by Brandon Pangrel. Then they scored early in the third period for a 2-1 lead. Then a couple minutes later Joey Bacon scored on a shot that I believe was 5 hole, I am not sure. There was some confusion on the call though because it was during a delayed penalty, and as soon as the puck hit the goalie they blew the whistle but it squirted through. Marshall put up a big stink saying that the whistle was before the goal, (which may have been true, but I dont believe a shot counts as them touching the puck anyways). Then on a powerplay with under 2 minutes left Travis Schneider scored the game winning goal. All in all it was a very competitive game, but man that ride home sucked. Princeton Points Goals- Miron(Pangrel) Bacon(Englund, Schneider) Schneider(larson) I didnt keep track of who got Marshalls points, sorry no help there. Good Teams Would be Nothin without Good Water.....

4checker · Post by **4checker** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 8:41 am

Todd Clark and Jeff Jacobs with the Marshall Goals. Great effort from Marshall's third line, Serreyn, Neuse, Birath.Game went pretty much as expected. Tight, close checking. Marshall is piling up the one-goal losses in the last 2 years, something like 9 of their last 10 losses are by one goal. That really is the last piece of the puzzle to overcome. Nice to see 3 full lines play all night, with no real drop off. Looks to me like Princeton is getting it together. Strong on the puck and their skates, shut down the slot area. Well coached, they play hard and with a swagger Marshall doesn't quite have yet. Good analysis from ptown tiger. The long bus ride was sweeter with a win, I'm betting. Good for Marshall to play up to that level from here on out. They have a chance of going 0-3 before sections begin, but thats a good thing. They will need to be at the top of their game from here on out. Lets face it, Princeton would probably be #2 or #3 in 1A, and so would Virginia and Eveleth. Great time of the year to be pushed to the next level. The D and goaltending weaknesses Marshall was concerned about at the start of the year are improving. Thanks to Princeton for making the trip, we'll be up there next year. Good luck in 2A.

2ahockeydude · Post by **2ahockeydude** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 10:38 am

OK, some games today. (SCC v. Benson) Who else? Going into the last week, it could very well be a tough battle for seeding rights. Biggest game, in my opinion.. SCC V. Princeton. I don't know that the winner will be the one to win sections, but we'll know who's ready to play, and I believe that the teams will play each other looking for advantages in case they meet again during playoffs. Here's my Saturday morning rankings... (subject to change at any time) 1. Princeton 2. SCC / Sauk Rapids (SR missing some key players) 4. Mora 5. Sartell (strong start, not ready for playoffs the way they're playing now...) Not sure below that, but WOW, Now's the time guys, you gotta shut-up and play, or forget it and watch the winners play later.

classAhockey · Post by **classAhockey** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 11:52 am

First off today's games.... Detroit Lakes @ Sauk Rapids ( should be close, SR is missing a few key players which could hurt them come playoff time) Score: Sauk 4 Detroit Lakes 2 Proctor @ Pine City- It's do or die time for both of these teams, a win for either team could mean no play in game. Pine City really needs to get there act together if they want to even make playoffs. Score: Pine City 5 Proctor 4 very close game? (i will be there) SCC@ Morris/Benson- THis game really doesn't matter for the Crusaders, but could make more steps if they pick up another win. SCC 4 Morris/Benson 4 That's today's game good luck to all teams. Here are my Rankings as follows: 1. Princeton- still playing solid , need to get up on teams early and not look back, and that's what they do best. 2. Sauk Rapids- Even with Streit and Koepp out this team is still a good hockey team. THey need to find a few more guys to step it up and play with the big dogs come playoff time. Peskcamp and Wocken are going to be exhausted. 3. SCC- This team doesn't have the greatest team speed but they play well together and have alot of skills all the way around. Inexperience could cause them an upset come playoffs 4. Sartell- Were playing tremendous and then suffer huge losses to Little Falls?? and Apollo? makes me doubt them a little bit, but very good talent on this very young team. 5. Mora- Finally everyone is back together, could really surprise alot of people in the playoffs. THey need to keep there heads on and stay out of trouble both on and off the ice. Hjelle needs to pick up his game a little bit, has been tested alot lately and hasn't played to the ability that everyone knows he can. 6. Moose Lake/Proctor/Pine City- ANyone one of these teams could take this spot. Proctor beat moose lake, and moose lake beat pine city, so if Pine City beats proctor....well then you got a seed that's up in the air. Moose Lake- not alot of talent on this team but they play hard, goalie keeps them in it if he is hot, been playing well lately , i heard they need a few attitude adjustments before playoff time, or so i read. Proctor- A win over Pine City today pretty much would gurantee them the 6th spot in the playoffs. Very good first line, hard to shut down but don't have the greatest speed, we'll see how they fair against Pine City's top line. Pine City- Been playing sloppy hockey lately, with a loss to Moose Lake, and a 6-5 win over Becker/Big Lake. I know this team is alot better than this and could play with the rest if they are on there game. Huge game for them today, need a win desperately to get out of the play in game spot. We'll see how there first line compares up with Proctors. Denfeld- Just don't got this year. Bushey is a real good player but has nothign to work with. SHould be out early in the playoffs because of no goaltending. There is my prediction, what does everyone else got to say.

ptown tigers · Post by **ptown tigers** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 5:08 pm

Wow... Playoffs are almost upon us. The teams that were hot seem to be on a cold streak. Sauk is down as of late losing Streit and Koepp, with three tough games (DL,Brainard, and Hutchinson)left they could be going into playoffs on a cold streak. Sartell lost to two very beatable teams in Little Falls and Apollo, and with a game against Mora coming up they had better pick it up.speaking of Mora, they seem to be on the rise, Mora has it's full team back and seem to be firing on all cylanders, the game against Sartell should be a good one. Cathedrel has a tough week coming up with two important games against Princeton, and Chisago. Chisago is a non section game but will be important come the seeding meeting seeing as how they have played Mora, Pine, Princeton twice each. as for Princeton, we seem to be back on our game, but we have two important section Games left, one really important one against Cathedrel which could mean the difference of a 2nd or 3rd seed. Also we had better not over look moose, they can upset anyone if their goalie is hot. All and all should be a good week. As for the important games- Sauk- I pick them to go winless, they were a damn good three man team, but with the third man(streit) out they will be outgunned I think. Cathedrel- I have them losing in two very close physical games to princeton and Chisago. Sartell vs. Mora-I see them losing to Mora, Mora is full strength and Hjellie seems to come up big when its needed. Princeton-As I said before I see us beating Cathedrel in a real close physical game, and I think we will not over look moose and come out early and get a lead that Moose wont be able to make up. Good Teams Would be Nothin without Good Water.....

Ahockeyman · Post by **Ahockeyman** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 6:23 pm

Sauk Rapids lost 5-2 to Detroit Lakes. This teams needs to pick it up soon or they may be in trouble. With a couple big loses in the section lately, (sauk and sartell) I think that Princeton is likely to receive the 1 seed. I don't know what seed SCC will get but the top 5 are definetly up for grabs. It should be very interesting to see how things turn out. The games this week are crutial for seeding. some predictions: Mora over Sartell 4-1 ( Hjellie is a too good of a goalie and Sartell has been struggling lately) Princeton over SCC 5-2 ( Princeton is starting to get back into it and SCC can't keep up to them) It should be fun to watch and see who comes to play.

The hockeywriter · Post by **The hockeywriter** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 9:30 pm

Ok I am back sorry for the absence I think I was at a game every night this last week and I could fell my Age catching up to as I was to tiredf to come on and write I needed my sleep Tuesday I saw Sartell play Wednesday I saw Cretin (Relative on the team) Thursday went to watch Sauk and friday went to Marshall that was a haul I satyed up and my Sisters in the cities and watch my nephew todya win a huge game ( He play for Minnhaha Academy they beat Breck 2-1 Yeah WOW!!!!!!) So sorry but yes I am back never fear ok first I must adress somthing ok I hope P-Town Tigers your listening You need to take the comments form the cocky SCC team "I just cant wait till SCC beats up on Princeton in less than a week" I lefty space even you need to print this up and put it in every kids stall a good manager would this should be very good motivation you can do what you want but i wouold and plaese PRINCETON will you please destroy SCC I mean i liek there team but with there comments on here how can anyone like them. ok but here is my look at every team. PRINCETON- Went down and watched Marshall vs Princeton it was a real fun and exciting game to watch it had everything i playoff game would have huge crowd. shots were only liek 19-16 and Princeton played extremly well looked liek a state tourny team but it is only one night but they play liek that th rest of the way look out cause cause the Tigers could be back. SAUK RAPIDS- Went and watched them play Wilmar first off let my give crdit to Wilmar has a really strong club this year could reprsent 4A this year. But as for Sauk with those 2 guys down Wilmar really took advantage they were all over Pesckamp kid cant do it all alone and seemed to get reallt frustrated as the game went on. Wocken was strong but got tired. The game could have been a blow out Wilmar peppered Dagneies he was strong that is why I say wacth out for the Storm he gets hot and Pesckamp gets loose watch out but another tough lose today 5-2 to DL Storm need to wake up or else. SCC- I must give a real solid team create these guys are a very good team I just hate the kids that come on here and make stupid comments. But big win over Mora proves you are a real contender this year. I think the game against Princeton will be a preview cause they will meet again in the playoffs. But the crusadrs are playing strong and I know they have the team to beat anyone they are very good at slowing the game down and they play systems so well and there power playy they usally score when there on it the play solid hockey so you must watch out for the Crusaders. SARTELL- I hype these guys up a ton and then go watch them get killed 7-3 by Little Falls got beat in every aspect of the game. But I asked a parent why the lack luster play it seems 3 of there top players are out and of all things grades come on sabers hit those books then polay hockey and education is huge. But I still say this is the most dangerous team come playoff time. MORA- I said it already got evrybody bck and i thought watchout but then they loss to SCC. i dont know about this tema they confuse me alot I am still just going to say watch out cause if The good Mora shows up we could see them skating down at the excel. Proctor- I havent been following them much they will be one and done unless Quale is better if he isnt sorry no love for the Rails. Big game tongith with Pine I hope someone finds the outcome and tells us about it. MOOSE LAKE- i ripped on you guys and now i take it back they beat pine twice and a big win over Ely I think they are lock for 7 seed they have been up and down but it looks like thee up now and thats what you want heading into playoffs. And I must say Princetopn beware!!!!!! Denfeld- The only thing they got going for them is a win over Pine nothign else good to say about this team. Pine City- Needs to pick it up right now I liek the Dragoins I think htye got a good shot at knocking off one of the big dogs btu they need to play there game they need a win tongiht against Procotor get back on track. The game of the week is of Course Princeton vs SCC I think it weill be a good game I hope Ptoen tigers listens to me if not then i guess what you going to do but it will be a huge game and I will be there my in depth scouting report will be in on Monday night. I hope to get your comments form all of you tell me what you are all thinking thanks!!!!!!!

Beerpig · Post by **Beerpig** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 10:54 pm

Welcome back everyone! Good to hear all the playoff talk back on this thread! Seeding meeting is Wednesday. It's a shame the Sartell vs. Mora game is on Thursday. Nice set up game for the playoffs, but too late for seeding. It would have decided the #4/#5 dilemma outright. Moose Lake/Princeton is also after seeding though this game would be unlikely to change seeding unless there would be an upset. Here's what I think at this time. #1 Princeton - They play a heavy Section 2A schedule and haven't lost. Seem to be pulling it all together at the right time. They should be #1 with a win at SCC on Tuesday. If they lose may drop to #3 behind both Sauk and SCC #2 Sauk Rapids - I think that playing relatively few Section 2A games will hurt them come seeding time. They had a few quality wins early in the year and now a few tough losses lately. They play a tough schedule, but Princeton's performance within the section gets them the #1. Could move up to #1 if Princeton loses to SCC. #3 St. Cloud Cathedral - It's hard to handle some of the messages that come over the thread, but they have come up with the big wins when needed. Their schedule is not quite as tough, although a win over Princeton may move them to #2! #4 Sartell - Tough to really get a handle on this team. I've obviously seen them twice in Moose Lake. Looked very average in the first game. Second game showed some brilliance with 5 goals in 7 minutes, but then very average for the rest of the game. The fight over #4 and #5 will be big at the seeding meeting. Could go either way. When they're hot, they'll beat anyone. #5 Mora - Same story as Sartell. They lose guys, get them back. They have a loss and a tie vs PC. I don't think they have enough quality wins to pass up Sartell. If they get hot, you'll have to watch it. #6 Proctor - Kind of sitting in the best of the rest spot. They beat Moose Lake, PC, and Denfeld, but no wins vs. the top 5 in the section. #7 Moose Lake - Big win vs. PC for a sweep and a win vs. Ely (for a sweep) who beat Denfeld 2 days earlier. I (although biased) feel ML can move to #7 and avoid the play-in game. PC has a win and tie vs. Mora, but hasn't won any other section games including 2 losses head to head vs. ML and a loss vs. Denfeld #8 Denfeld - One section win vs. Pine City. Otherwise, it has been a dismal year. They play a pretty tough schedule so they have become accustomed to playing against a good brand of hockey. Shouldn't win a playoff game, but can't overlook them. #9 Pine City - Had a chance to move up as far as #6 with wins over Moose Lake and Proctor. Came up empty handed. This team is truly a mystery. They look like they should win some games, but they don't. In any case, it will be an interesting playoff. Any one of 4 or 5 teams have a legitimate shot and who knows who may upset who??

bemidji7 · Post by **bemidji7** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 12:34 am

How can you say sauk is so good, they lost to Detroit Lakes and they didnt look much better then RLF does. Granted they have injuries but so does everybody else. From what I saw Sauk doesnt deserve to go to state. And for the record I dont play for bemidji

ptown tigers · Post by **ptown tigers** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 1:39 am

I dont know how they played against DL, but I do know they are a threat, It will be tough for them. Sauk I will repeat what I said in an earlier post, sauk is the best three man team I have ever seen(4 if you count Diagnis). But now that their trio is down to two, i think they are gonna be hurting. Peskemp can not do it all. He needs more help in the offensive zone. Same thing happened last year acctually. Sauk was playing good then a key injury hurt them come playoffs time(peskemp punched a locker after a loss to FF, still played but wasnt the same) Good Teams Would be Nothin without Good Water.....

ptown tigers · Post by **ptown tigers** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 1:52 am

Sauk 2 DL 6 or 5(I have seen two different scores, not sure which one is right) Proctor 3- PC 2(OT) Cathedrel 5- Morris/Benson 2 Does anyone have any details about these games? I just found scores, no details. Also I cant seem to find the score for the Mora, STMA game on friday night? Does anyone know the score and details? Good Teams Would be Nothin without Good Water.....

OldSchoolBranches · Post by **OldSchoolBranches** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:27 am

In the SR game, Peckskamp had zero shots, they may have counted one. DL played the body on him and he couldnt do anything.

AxelRose69 · Post by **AxelRose69** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 10:48 am

Mora-6 STMA-3

2ahockeydude · Post by **2ahockeydude** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 1:04 pm

The SR game is a prime example of how a team's depth is going to play a vital role in their success (or lack thereof) come playoff time. There isn't a team in 2A that won't tie up Peckscamp and possibly take SR out in the first round. So, who has the deepest teams talent wise? I think that Princeton, SCC, and possibly Sartell (although they go the way of their goalies, if whoever's in net is not at 100%, the team will lose) has more than one line. NO BIASES ALLOWED... what teams are winning because their second and third lines are making things happen?? Looking for insight, not arguments... NO PLAYERS ALLOWED in this one..... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/wink.gif ALT=";)"> I LOVE this time of year.......the best hockey is going to happen in about 1 1/2 weeks....<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/pimp.gif ALT=":hat">

ptown tigers · Post by **ptown tigers** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 1:39 pm

Princeton's 2nd and 3rd line really are stepping it up as of late. The line of Miron, Pangrel, and Duffner got the first goal against Marshall, and The line of Bowen, Braun, and Fuller is really playing good hockey as of late. Neither line is going to score a ton of goals, but they will get a few and play really well in both the offensive and defensive zones. Good Teams Would be Nothin without Good Water.....

Beerpig · Post by **Beerpig** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 2:14 pm

Moose Lake is very young, but starting to believe in themselves. They only play 4 seniors regularly. Goalie, 2 forwards, 1 defenseman. The first two lines are interchangable, both able to score and/or shut down an opponents #1 line. The third line gets in enough shifts to spell the first two and don't give up that many goals. Not very deep or overly talented but balanced. If they stay within their systems, they will do nothing but continue to improve for the balance of this year and next. Right now about 25% of the scoring on this team is coming from the seniors and another 25% comes from the 3 freshman and 4 sophomores that get significant playing time.

Ahockeyman · Post by **Ahockeyman** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 3:11 pm

I think either Princeton or St Cloud have the most depth. Princeton's second line works well together, Adam Miron is a solid hockey player. Playing 3 lines will definatly be an advantage come playoff time. St Cloud has good scoring from all 3 lines but I don't think they play as well defensively. Their 3rd line is a good combination and their second line is ok too. The second and third lines of these teams will play a huge factor in their game on Tues. That may be where the game is won or lost.

Major · Post by **Major** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 3:14 pm

Why can't this post go away? This section will be two and out without a doubt!

ptown tigers · Post by **ptown tigers** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 3:19 pm

Why on earth would you post that. DONT LOOK AT THIS THREAD IF YOU DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY. It is clearly marked "Who is going to Win Section 2A" If you don't like 2A fine. That is your business. but seeing as how there are 370 somthing posts obviously people want to talk about it. So why dont you go away. Good Teams Would be Nothin without Good Water.....

Major · Post by **Major** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 3:24 pm

ptown- it is easy, all these teams are terrible, period!

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