District Tournaments---District 4

bugsy · Post by **bugsy** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:47 pm

I think the driving thing is a little overrated. C'mon were talking 13-15 year old kids. Not like people are driving 4-5 hours. I'd rather have the kids at home in there own bed rather than in a hotel where there could be lots of distractions

joshdog · Post by **joshdog** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:17 pm

Couldn't disagree more. Sitting in a car for any length of time and then trying to get ready for any highly athletic event in 1 hours time is tough. I have seen the negative effect's too many times to take chances at district time. I will say that playing the NU A bantam's is quite different then playing the Marshall or Waseca A PW's.

hockeykid14 · Post by **hockeykid14** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:35 pm

agreed...I hoping for an "upset", if you will of A.L. Beating NU, which should make all four teams from the east winners in the first round...I think A.L. deserves a win, and i sure wish that Owatonna could be there for districts as they would've finished in second or third in the west...

falkster09 · Post by **falkster09** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:08 pm

Are you saying that Owattonna isnt even going to be there?

joshdog · Post by **joshdog** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:33 pm

he's talking PW A Falkster

hockeykid14 · Post by **hockeykid14** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:03 am

in the PWA, yes, Owatonna will not be there... Should be fun tournaments on both Bantam A and PWA... Let's get some predictions going....<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

dasherdude · Post by **dasherdude** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:42 am

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the 4 teams from Bantam A going to Regions are: Mankato Albert Lea New Prague Owatonna In order of finish. I have Owatonna as the 4 just because of the unknown status of the player who was ejected last weekend. With so few players on their bench that 1 player could make a big difference.

PlayMaker12 · Post by **PlayMaker12** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:56 am

DashDude those are good predictions, but if AL doesn't come to play NU could come up with an upset. And Owatonna is gonna be hurting because of that matched penalty. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... Maker12</A> at: 2/8/06 11:01 am

dasherdude · Post by **dasherdude** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:01 pm

You could say that about every team...But you're right, this time of year every team better come to play. I don't anticipate AL having too much trouble with NU. I think AL swept NU during the regular season.

dasherdude · Post by **dasherdude** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:35 pm

Let's not forget the importance of the goaltenders... Which of these teams has the most consistant goalie?

bugsy · Post by **bugsy** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:47 pm

Along with the importance of Goalies, are any teams shorthanded due to injuries etc. I know kato is without two forwards that will be questionable for the D4 tourney.

hockeykid14 · Post by **hockeykid14** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:26 pm

Who do you got for PWA, guys?

bugsy · Post by **bugsy** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:38 pm

I'll take the 4 PWA teams from the East to advance. NU playing in the West does no good for them. The 4 East teams have for the most part played a tougher schedule night in and night out. This get's them "battle tested" for the grind of the tourney. I guarantee that NU can be had in the first round if AL comes out with a great amount of intensity. NU probably has not faced that too many times out West.

hockeykid14 · Post by **hockeykid14** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:08 pm

To add to bugsy's point, Who has New Ulm played outside of the district? any real good competion in the top 10?

joshdog · Post by **joshdog** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:15 pm

It is looking at this point like AL Bantam's will still be without fwd. Mitch Sorenson (appendix). Even if he get's cleared to play on Mon. it would be tough to get him ready. We miss his speed and intensity.

hockeykid14 · Post by **hockeykid14** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:24 pm

District 4 Tournament Seedings 02/08/2006 Bantam A: 1. New Prague 2. Owatonna 3. Mankato 4. Albert Lea 5. New Ulm 6. Redwood Falls 7. Faribault Bantam B East: 1. Owatonna 2. New Ulm 3. Austin 4. New Prague Bantam B West: 1. Luverne 2. Mankato 3. Waseca 4. Worthington Peewee A East: 1. Faribault 2. Mankato 3. New Prague 4. Albert Lea Peewee A West: 1. New Ulm 2. Marshall 3. Waseca 4. Fairmont Peewee B East: 1. New Prague 2. St Peter 3. Owatonna 4. Albert Lea Peewee B West: 1. Luverne 2. Marshall 3. Redwood Falls 4. New Ulm Girls 12Und B: 1. Owatonna 2. Albert Lea 3. Mankato 4. Austin 5. Luverne 6. Waseca 7. New Ulm 8. St Peter

bugsy · Post by **bugsy** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:30 pm

In looking at Kids seedings, you will notice at the PW B level no Mankato teams are in there. They choose to run a second A team consisting of the kids rated just after their top A team, essentially a B1 team if Kato were to be in the Cities. That team is sent out to play A hockey in the West side of the District as that is the weaker side year in and year out. Any opinions on whether this second A team should be a B team and have a chance to advance maybe to the State tourney. Look forward to everybody's opinions

hockeykid14 · Post by **hockeykid14** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:48 pm

I think it is a win/lose sitituation both ways...To a lot of the kids that make that second "A" team, it is a complete joy to them as, yes, they did make an "A" team...Will they win near as many games as they would as a "B-1" team? NO. I guess a route you could try(this is a bit out there but...) is picking the teams and asking what the parents want to do, and what the kids want to do(this would be hard to doe as putting teams in districts, and setting up schedules for that year as well)...I know a lot of kids would do anything just to go to state...and if they have to move from and A-2 to a B-1 team to do it, I'm sure many wouldn't mind...

hockeykid14 · Post by **hockeykid14** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:04 pm

Who of the four teams from the East(PWA) that made districts this year, will be most likely not to make distrcts next year

bugsy · Post by **bugsy** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:04 pm

Thanks Hockeykid. I know that one of the arguments is that playing A is better competition and by playing A in the West they will get that. So that is maybe 8 games a year they can compete at that level. What about the other 25-35 games that they play outside of the District where they have little chance to compete. This whole attitude that you are on an A team is frustrating to me. Why not compete at a level that you you can be competitve at every game. I say have them play B1 hockey, schedule as many games as you can against metro teams as alot of the B1 teams up there could give some d4 A teams a run for their money. Besides, its and easier drive to the south metro than going to Marshall, Luverne etc. Just my .02

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:13 pm

I think as long as Mankato is feeding two high schools, they need to go with two A teams as often as possible. I know they didn't do this in Bantams this year, but did in pee wees. They should consider separating them between East and West as much as possible, also.

hockeykid14 · Post by **hockeykid14** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:22 pm

The reason that there wasn't 2 A Bantam teams was because they couldn't run 4 teams...only had the numbers for 3...And that second A team was the B-1 this year and had pretty good sucess...it's hard to beat teams in your district that don't have an A....

nickel slots · Post by **nickel slots** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:35 pm

Bugsy, I guess I'll chime in with my $.02... If you look at the success of the Mankato High School teams (or lackthereof), maybe it's time to consider dividing the kids up by location. Right now, the kids are spending their entire youth careers playing with kids that they may or may not play high school hockey with. To this effect, having an A team and an A-2 team is useless. Sure, you give twice the amount of kids the opportunity to play A hockey, but you know as well as I do that they're kidding themselves if they think they're a true A caliber team. It would be a different story if Mankato could produce 125 kids at every level, but since they don't, the A2 team is really just a B team. Obviously, Mankato knows that, otherwise they would put them in the D4 East division. If the A teams were split up by location (or, in other words, by which high school they'll play for), each school can have more responsibility for what is happening at the youth levels. If I were a Mankato varsity coach, I may shy away from the youth program, as it exists today, knowing that some or many (in the case of this year's A bantam team, which I know many are going to the East school next year) of the kids will never enter my program. In my humble opinion, if you are only going to have one true A team, don't try to fool the kids and parents into thinking their Little Johnny is an A player... let them be what they are - a good B team. If the philosophy of the program is to develop kids for their high school programs, split it into an East and West program from the get-go... with two different boards - it's really no different than having an Edina program and a Minnetonka program... where two kids could conceivably live across the street from each other yet have loyalty in entirely different programs. If the philosophy is to develop teams that can be competitive with the top teams in the state, then leave it as one... but only do like the Eden Prairies of the world do (and they have at least 125 kids trying out)... have one A team and multiple B teams. Then let them go off to separate high schools and start over with a completely different set of teammates.

soup3 · Post by **soup3** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:54 pm

Nickel this years bantam A team only has two kids going to east. One is a second year one is a first year. Oh and one goes to Loyola which combines with east so i guess you have three. But unless they move up only one player from this years bantam A team will play high school next year for east.

hockeyequalslife · Post by **hockeyequalslife** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:11 pm

teamss going to regions i think will be 1. mankato 2. new prague 3. owattonna 4. new ulm no real order but i think that right off the bat albert lea will lose then they will come into the losers bracket and think it will be a cake walk and end up losing (bantam a)

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