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Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:38 am
by BSUBeaver
ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:20 am
PageStat again showing its a much better computer model than QRF ... yikes... But QRF does tend to get better as the year goes but just not the best model for hockey.
Couple notes the Computer Model doesnt take into account that Coaches generally do-
BW Blades beat Willmar head to head in only meeting gives Blades the nod over them for now
Morris Benson is (3-6-0) but at the moment own head to head wins over BW Blades & WDC
I dont see a world where Alexandria is not the 1, 2 or 3 seed depending on how their second game goes with Northern Lakes and their season series vs Fergus. Otters have been a nice surprise this year so far.
The Top 3 feel locked in some order but man will the battle for the 4 through 8 seeds be wild- BW Blades, Willmar, PC, MBA & WDC are all dead even every time they play its like a 1 goal or OT game.
Fun side story BW Blades could get the 4 seed and win the 4 vs 5 game if that happens would be first time ever in program history they make the semifinals pretty awesome story for a program that is coming off going (7-79-0) in the last 4 years combined.
It is early, but I kind of like to post these every week and see how they change as the year goes on. And I kind of like the fact that mathematical models take the human element out of it.
Breck/Wahp could be a very compelling story. We are kind of following them as my son played with a couple of their players in fall hockey two years ago on a 14U team.
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:43 am
by ClassAGuy
BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:38 am
ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:20 am
PageStat again showing its a much better computer model than QRF ... yikes... But QRF does tend to get better as the year goes but just not the best model for hockey.
Couple notes the Computer Model doesnt take into account that Coaches generally do-
BW Blades beat Willmar head to head in only meeting gives Blades the nod over them for now
Morris Benson is (3-6-0) but at the moment own head to head wins over BW Blades & WDC
I dont see a world where Alexandria is not the 1, 2 or 3 seed depending on how their second game goes with Northern Lakes and their season series vs Fergus. Otters have been a nice surprise this year so far.
The Top 3 feel locked in some order but man will the battle for the 4 through 8 seeds be wild- BW Blades, Willmar, PC, MBA & WDC are all dead even every time they play its like a 1 goal or OT game.
Fun side story BW Blades could get the 4 seed and win the 4 vs 5 game if that happens would be first time ever in program history they make the semifinals pretty awesome story for a program that is coming off going (7-79-0) in the last 4 years combined.
It is early, but I kind of like to post these every week and see how they change as the year goes on. And I kind of like the fact that mathematical models take the human element out of it.
Breck/Wahp could be a very compelling story. We are kind of following them as my son played with a couple of their players in fall hockey two years ago on a 14U team.
Yes, please don't get me wrong, no issue with posting the Computer based models at all was just saying PageStat always feels like better model to use for hockey than QRF but I know it will get better as the year goes on.
Coaches votes I agree can be biased but I guess in all honesty if Alex is who I think they are they would still make the Section final as #7 seed under QRF seeding currently.
Always enjoy watching the computer models week to week to see if they catch up to actual games being played. Fun stuff!
I am very curious to watch 4-8 play out just because they are so even this year.
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:11 pm
by ClassAGuy
Section 6A Scores
Thursday (12/26/24)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 4 Becker Big Lake 5 OT
Fergus Falls 5 Albert Lea 1
Willmar 3 International Falls 1
Friday (12/27/24)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 0 Albert Lea 3
Prairie Centre 1 Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato 5
Willmar 3 Bagley/Fosston 2 OT
Morris/Benson 1 Redwood Valley 2
Fergus Falls 8 Becker/Big Lake 3
Saturday (12/28/24)
#22 Alexandria 3 West Fargo Sheyenne (N.D.) 0
Fergus Falls 7 Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1
Willmar 1 Fort Frances (Ontario) 6
Prairie Centre 6 Morris/Benson 0
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 7:08 am
by ClassAGuy
Section 6A Ranking (12/29/24)
1- Northern Lakes Lightning (4-3-0)
2- Alexandria Cardinals (3-6-0)
3- Fergus Falls Otters (7-3-0)
4- Breckenridge/Wahpeton Blades (4-7-1)
5- Willmar Cardinals (5-6-0)
6- Prairie Centre North Stars (6-5-0)
7- Morris/Benson Storm (3-8-0)
8- Wadena Deer Creek Wolverines (2-4-0)
6A Summary- Alexandria won their only game of the week outside the section. Fergus Falls got a 6A win over Breckenridge/Wahpeton. Prairie Centre got a 6A win over Morris/Benson. Willmar all went (2-1-0) outside of the section up north over the Holidays. Northern Lakes & Wadena Deer Creek both took the holiday break off.
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:18 am
by BSUBeaver
Week 7
January 2, 2025
St. Cloud at Alexandria
Fergus Falls at River Lakes
Willmar at Brainerd
January 3, 2025
River Lakes at Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Northern Lakes at Morris/Benson
Lake of the Woods at Wadena-Deer Creek
January 4, 2025
Marshall at Fergus Falls
Willmar at Litchfield
Southwest Christian at Northern Lakes
Morris/Benson at Windom
North Shore at Wadena-Deer Creek
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:37 pm
by ClassAGuy
Section 6A Week #7 Scores
Thursday (1/2/25)
#25 Fergus Falls 5 #18 River Lakes 7
#22 Alexandria 4 St Cloud Public 1
Willmar 1 Brainerd 8
Friday (1/3/25)
#15 Northern Lakes 5 Morris/Benson 0
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 4 #18 River Lakes 5 OT
Wadena Deer Creek 6 Lake of the Woods 4\
Saturday (1/4/25)
#15 Northern Lakes 4 Southwest Christian/Richfield 3
#25 Fergus Falls 4 Marshall 2
Wadena Deer Creek 3 North Shore 4
Morris Benson 4 Windom 2
Willmar 4 Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato 5 OT
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:18 am
by elliott70
Alex 4-1 over St Cloud
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 7:28 am
by ClassAGuy
Section 6A Ranking (1/5/25)
1- Northern Lakes Lightning (6-3-0)
2- Alexandria Cardinals (4-6-0)
3- Fergus Falls Otters (8-4-0)
4- Breckenridge/Wahpeton Blades (4-8-1)
5- Willmar Cardinals (5-8-0)
6- Prairie Centre North Stars (6-5-0)
7- Morris/Benson Storm (4-9-0)
8- Wadena Deer Creek Wolverines (3-5-0)
6A Summary- Northern Lakes got a Section 6A win over Morris/Benson this week. Alexandria won their only game outside the section and Fergus Falls & Wadena Deer Creek went (.500) outside the section. Breckenridge/Wahpeton & Willmar both went winless outside the section. Prairie Centre was idle this week.
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:15 am
by BSUBeaver
Week 8, some interesting games this week that may help give some insight to what the end of the season standings may look like, or it may just muddy things up that much more.
January 7, 2025
Fergus Falls at Alexandria
River Lakes at Willmar
Wadena-Deer Creek at Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Superior (WI) at Northern Lakes
Morris/Benson at Prairie Centre
January 9, 2025
Alexandria at Brainerd
St. Cloud at Fergus Falls
Wadena-Deer Creek at Willmar
Morris/Benson at Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Northern Lakes at Greenway
Park Rapids at Prairie Centre
January 11, 2025
Breckenridge/Wahpeton at Bagley/Fosston
Marshall at Northern Lakes
Wadena-Deer Creek at May-Port (ND)
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:53 am
by BSUBeaver
PageStat Ranking
Northern Lakes 16.02
Alexandria 16.01
Fergus Falls 14.47
Willmar 10.97
Breck/Wahp 10.29
Prairie Centre 8.66
Wadena-Deer Creek 7.89
Morris/Benson 7.33
QRF
Northern Lakes 49.0
Fergus Falls 45.2
Alexandria 33.1
Prairie Centre 32.9
Willmar 31.8
Breck/Wahp 29.5
Morris/Benson 24.3
Wadena-Deer Creek 23.6
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:02 pm
by ClassAGuy
Section 6A Week #8 Scores
Tuesday (1/7/25)
#14 Northern Lakes 2 Superior (Wis.) 0
#22 Alexandria 4 #25 Fergus Falls 1
Willmar 2 #18 River Lakes 8
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 8 Wadena Deer Creek 4
Prairie Centre 6 Morris/Benson 3
Thursday (1/9/25)
#14 Northern Lakes 1 #4 Hibbing/Chisholm 4
#22 Alexandria 6 Brainerd 3
#25 Fergus Falls 7 St Cloud Public 8
Willmar 10 Wadena Deer Creek 0
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 3 Morris/Benson 2
Prairie Centre 4 Park Rapids 1
Saturday (1/11/25)
#14 Northern Lakes 5 Duluth Marshall 2
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 2 Bagley/Fosston 4
Wadena-Deer Creek 3 MayPort (ND) 8
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:09 am
by ClassAGuy
Section 6A Ranking (1/12/25)
1- Northern Lakes Lightning (8-4-0)
2- Alexandria Cardinals (6-6-0)
3- Fergus Falls Otters (8-6-0)
4- Breckenridge/Wahpeton Blades (6-9-1)
5- Willmar Cardinals (6-9-0)
6- Prairie Centre North Stars (8-5-0)
7- Morris/Benson Storm (4-11-0)
8- Wadena Deer Creek Wolverines (3-8-0)
6A Summary- Northern Lakes went (2-1-0) outside of the section. Alexandria got a Section 6A win over Fergus Falls. Breckenridge/Wahpeton & Prairie Centre both got 6A wins over Morris/Benson. Willmar and the Blades both got Section 6A wins over Wadena Deer Creek which makes the above ranking feel solid as of 1/12/25.
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:48 pm
by BSUBeaver
Week 9, not a lot of in-section games this week.
January 13, 2025
Becker/Big Lake at Willmar
January 14, 2025
Alexandria at Little Falls
Fergus Falls at Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Morris/Benson at Willmar
St. Cloud Cathedral at Northern Lakes
Prairie Centre at Redwood Valley
January 16, 2025
Alexandria at Sartell
Breckenridge/Wahpeton at Park Rapids
Northern Lakes at River Lakes
Wadena-Deer Creek at Morris/Benson
Sauk Rapids-Rice at Prairie Centre
January 18, 2025
Northern Lakes at Alexandria
Fergus Falls at Thief River Falls
Wadena-Deer Creek at Ely
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:53 pm
by BSUBeaver
PageStat
Northern Lakes 16.72
Alexandria 16.41
Fergus Falls 14.45
Willmar 11.05
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 10.02
Prairie Centre 8.77
Morris/Benson 7.07
Wadena-Deer Creek 6.93
QRF
Northern Lakes 56.1
Fergus Falls 46.3
Alexandria 43.1
Prairie Centre 38.4
Willmar 37.2
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 34.5
Morris/Benson 25.9
Wadena-Deer Creek 22.5
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:00 pm
by ClassAGuy
Section 6A Week #9 Scores
Monday (1/13/25)
Willmar 2 Becker/Big Lake 8
Prairie Centre 6 Wadena-Deer Creek 2
Tuesday (1/14/25)
#15 Northern Lakes 1 #5 St Cloud Cathedral 6
#21 Alexandria 2 #9 Little Falls 5
Morris/Benson 3 Willmar 2 OT
Prairie Centre 7 Redwood Valley 3
Fergus Falls 6 Breckenridge/Wahpeton 2
Thursday (1/16/25)
#15 Northern Lakes 1 #19 River Lakes 0
#21 Alexandria 2 Sartell 7
Prairie Centre 3 #24 Sauk Rapids 7
Fergus Falls 9 Willmar 0
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 2 Park Rapids 3 OT
Morris Benson 8 Wadena Deer Creek 2
Saturday (1/18/25)
#15 Northern Lakes 5 #21 Alexandria 2
Fergus Falls 1 #22 Thief River Falls 4
Wadena Deer Creek 1 Ely 2
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:02 pm
by elliott70
This section may have four teams in the semis with double digit losses on their record.
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:05 am
by BSUBeaver
Ugh, Breckenridge/Wahpeton, so close this year. 7 OT games, 1-5-1 record in those games.
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:29 pm
by ClassAGuy
BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:05 am
Ugh, Breckenridge/Wahpeton, so close this year. 7 OT games, 1-5-1 record in those games.
So true BSU! They still though as of today control the #4 seed in 6A. Still important 2nd games with PC and WDC but if they win those two they will be the 4 seed most likely. They would have a great shot at making their 1st ever SF in MN. They are mainly all Sophs rooting for them a fun story!
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:43 pm
by elliott70
Breckenridge a good story.
But not in the top 50 of single A schools.
Fortunately MSHSL still does things geographically so that makes them a fun story.
If some (here and elsewhere) had there way it would be the top 32 and that’s it.
So let’s keep it the way it is and go Breckenridge!
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:30 pm
by BSUBeaver
ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:29 pm
BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:05 am
Ugh, Breckenridge/Wahpeton, so close this year. 7 OT games, 1-5-1 record in those games.
So true BSU! They still though as of today control the #4 seed in 6A. Still important 2nd games with PC and WDC but if they win those two they will be the 4 seed most likely. They would have a great shot at making their 1st ever SF in MN. They are mainly all Sophs rooting for them a fun story!
My son played summer/fall hockey with a couple of them two years ago, so they have been fun to follow from a distance.
Elliott, I agree, definitely not top 50, but for a program that has been down for so long, to be "THAT" close to having a winning record.....
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 7:34 am
by ClassAGuy
Section 6A Ranking (1/19/25)
1- Northern Lakes Lightning (10-5-0)
2- Alexandria Cardinals (6-9-0)
3- Fergus Falls Otters (10-7-0)
4- Breckenridge/Wahpeton Blades (6-11-1)
5- Prairie Centre North Stars (10-6-0)
6- Morris/Benson Storm (5-12-0)
7- Willmar Cardinals (6-11-0)
8- Wadena Deer Creek Wolverines (3-11-0)
6A Summary- Northern Lakes got a 6A sweep over Alexandria. Fergus Falls got 6A wins over Breckenridge/Wahpeton & Willmar. Prairie Centre & Morris/Benson both got 6A wins over Wadena Deer Creek. The Storm also got a 6A win over the Cardinals this week.
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:21 am
by BSUBeaver
PageStat
Northern Lakes 16.26
Alexandria 15.41
Fergus Falls 14.11
Willmar 9.88
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 9.81
Prairie Centre 9.36
Morris/Benson 8.29
Wadena-Deer Creek 6.17
QRF
Northern Lakes 62.6
Fergus Falls 51.2
Prairie Centre 41.7
Alexandria 41.2
Willmar 36.0
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 35.3
Morris/Benson 31.7
Wadena-Deer Creek 22.4
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:25 pm
by BSUBeaver
Week 10 Schedule
January 20, 2025
River Lakes at Alexandria (rescheduled from 12/19/24)
January 21, 2025
Sartell at Fergus Falls
May-Port (ND) at Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Northern Lakes at Little Falls
Sauk Rapids-Rice at Morris/Benson
Park Rapids at Wadena-Deer Creek
January 23, 2025
Willmar at Alexandria
Fergus Falls at Sauk Rapids-Rice
Prairie Centre at Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Proctor at Northern Lakes
Wadena-Deer Creek at Moose Lake Area (rescheduled from 11/22/2024)
January 24, 2025
Willmar at Prairie Centre
Dodge County at Northern Lakes
Morris/Benson at Fairmont
January 25, 2025
Becker/Big Lake at Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Morris/Benson at Worthington
Wadena-Deer Creek at Kittson Central
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:47 pm
by ClassAGuy
Section 6A Week #10 Scores
Monday (1/20/25)
#22 Alexandria 4 #23 River Lakes 3
Tuesday (1/21/25)
#14 Northern Lakes 1 #10 Little Falls 2 OT
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 2 MayPort (ND) 7
Wadena Deer Creek 6 Park Rapids 7
Morris/Benson 1 Sauk Rapids-Rice 10
Fergus Falls 2 Sartell 4
Thursday (1/23/25)
#14 Northern Lakes 4 #17 Proctor 1
#22 Alexandria 6 Willmar 1
Wadena Deer Creek 7 Moose Lake 9
Fergus Falls 4 Sauk Rapids 8
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 4 Prairie Centre 3 OT
Friday (1/24/25)
#14 Northern Lakes 5 Dodge County 1
Morris/Benson 8 Fairmont 7 OT
Prairie Centre 4 Willmar 1
Saturday (1/25/25)
Wadena Deer Creek 9 Kittson County Central 7
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 4 Becker/Big Lake 3
Morris/Benson 4 Worthington 3 OT
Re: 2024-25 Section 6A
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:52 am
by ClassAGuy
Section 6A Ranking (1/26/25)
1- Northern Lakes Lightning (12-6-0)
2- Alexandria Cardinals (8-9-0)
3- Fergus Falls Otters (10-9-0)
4- Breckenridge/Wahpeton Blades (8-12-1)
5- Prairie Centre North Stars (11-7-0)
6- Morris/Benson Storm (8-12-0)
7- Willmar Cardinals (6-14-0)
8- Wadena Deer Creek Wolverines (4-13-0)
6A Summary- Northern Lakes went (2-1-0) outside of the Section. Alexandria got a 6A win over Willmar. Fergus Falls went winless outside of the section. Breckenridge/Wahpeton pretty much locked up the 4 seed with a 6A sweep of Prairie Centre but the Northstars did beat the Cardinals to solidify their spot at the 5 seed. Morris/Benson went (2-1-0) outside the section this week and Wadena Deer Creek went (1-2-0) outside the section.