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Who wins?

Grand Rapids
14
54%
Duluth East
12
46%
 
Total votes: 26

norcon
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Post by norcon »

grindiangrad-80 wrote:Rapids needs to be a little smarter in the 3rd. East doing a nice job with their opportunities.
This group has been very undisciplined all season. The suspensions from the Hermantown game are just another example. Seems like every season Rapids has a group of spoiled brats who put themselves ahead of their team.
Hope coach Klatt can right the ship.
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Post by grindiangrad-80 »

I can't say I was expecting that tonight. This is the 1st game this year that the Injuns weren't in pretty much from the start.

Again though, nice effort by East.
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Post by ryguyMN »

5-0 Duluth East over Grand Rapids. Considering Rapids gave up 52 shots to Holy Family, 42 to Hermantown, and now 38 to Duluth East, would the two missing D-men against East made much difference anyway?
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Post by grindiangrad-80 »

ryguyMN wrote:5-0 Duluth East over Grand Rapids. Considering Rapids gave up 52 shots to Holy Family, 42 to Hermantown, and now 38 to Duluth East, would the two missing D-men against East made much difference anyway?
Not much at all.
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Post by kniven »

grindiangrad-80 wrote:
ryguyMN wrote:5-0 Duluth East over Grand Rapids. Considering Rapids gave up 52 shots to Holy Family, 42 to Hermantown, and now 38 to Duluth East, would the two missing D-men against East made much difference anyway?
Not much at all.
Congrads to the Greyhounds of Duluth East and Coach Randolph on a nice win.
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Post by karl(east) »

Well, I had fun tonight. I sure didn't see that coming. Pure delight for an East fan...best atmosphere I've ever seen at Heritage too, though it helps when the big student section is in full party mode throughout the 3rd period.

How do you stop the Rapids top line? Don't let them have the puck. This was an East clinic in puck control, in taking the game to the opponent yet still maintaining great discipline. I'm struggling to think of a time when they got caught out in an odd-man rush. And while East did take a number of penalties, the PK was rock solid, and in general they made Meierhoff's job easy.

At the same time, this East team is more than some Randolph cycling machine. They let some of their individual talents shine: Worth was dangling all over the place, Mageau was a physical force who made some nice moves too, and LaMaster--what a relief to have him back--was a rock in the Hounds' zone.

If there was a moment when this game could have turned, it was late in the second, when East up just 1-0 and was just bombing away and in total control, but Holum was coming up with save after big save. I could see this turning into one of those games where East has so many shots and so few goals, and the other team springs a quick one or two to steal it. But Paine finally bombed in the PPG after a string of good chances, and the floodgates opened from there.

If East plays the way they did tonight, they have a chance to beat anyone. We'll see if they can keep the momentum going on Saturday against EP...they've owned 7AA so far (outscoring the section 23-2 in 4 games), but less impressive outside of it.

Rapids, as other people have noted, seemed undisciplined and scattered. If this were a close game you could argue the two defensemen missing was the difference, but it wasn't. They need to pull it together, or it will be a quick exit in the 7AA playoffs.
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Post by north_bear »

Surprised I still have hair after that one. Uuugly.

Not many good things to say about Rapids tonight. Holum was the best player but even a guy can only stop so many grade a chances. Couldn't really get any flow or forecheck going all night. Missing Anderson and heitcamp definitely hurt on the blueline. I was hoping Klatt would have moved Hain back to bring some stability to a disastrous D corps. But oh well

Oh and quit taking so many penalties!! Good lord.
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Post by Daulton21 »

Good win for East! The 3 games I have seen Rapids play this year I have to agree with a lot of the other posts. They have some very undisciplined players, its to bad because some of them do have some nice skills, For their sake I do hope they get that chip off their shoulder and clean that up. Things still will be fun as section play approaches in a month.
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Post by mulefarm »

Why doesn't Klatt handle this undisciplined play?
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Post by boblee »

Let's not wildly overreact on either team here. I can think of 2-3 examples off the top of my head where there was a lopsided game in the regular season between these two teams and the other team won in the playoffs. Lotta season left.
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boblee wrote:Let's not wildly overreact on either team here. I can think of 2-3 examples off the top of my head where there was a lopsided game in the regular season between these two teams and the other team won in the playoffs. Lotta season left.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Wasn't it 07 when East won at the DECC 5-1 and absolutely dominated the entire game? While I would agree in terms of seeding Rapids is locked in at 3, which I could care less, they were a 3 seed in 07 as well. And even that team was stumbling through the last game of the regular season. I know that is a different team and a different season. The point is just let the season play out. Gotta remember East just lost 6-0 to Tonka, so they haven't established any kind of trend. East played a very good game from start to finish. That said good luck trying to do the same thing to the Hain, McLaughlin, Miller trio again. My bet is those three will be on a mission if they meet at Amsoil.
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Post by hawkenjonny »

What a disappointing game from a GR standpoint. Really nice game control from East (who in MY opinion is not as talented on the top end this year) which shows that if you have a game plan for how to shut down another team and YOU EXECUTE IT, you can win. Dominant performance and I cannot disagree (even with personal stake in this one) that the Rapids play has been undisciplined, unfocused, and generally not what I would expect from the talent level. If they think they are too good to be beaten my a more disciplined TEAM they are obviously wrong. Get it together or watch from the stands in March boys.
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Post by kniven »

TheHockeyDJ wrote:
boblee wrote:Let's not wildly overreact on either team here. I can think of 2-3 examples off the top of my head where there was a lopsided game in the regular season between these two teams and the other team won in the playoffs. Lotta season left.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Wasn't it 07 when East won at the DECC 5-1 and absolutely dominated the entire game? While I would agree in terms of seeding Rapids is locked in at 3, which I could care less, they were a 3 seed in 07 as well. And even that team was stumbling through the last game of the regular season. I know that is a different team and a different season. The point is just let the season play out. Gotta remember East just lost 6-0 to Tonka, so they haven't established any kind of trend. East played a very good game from start to finish. That said good luck trying to do the same thing to the Hain, McLaughlin, Miller trio again. My bet is those three will be on a mission if they meet at Amsoil.
I also could really care less about the seeding 1-4. It's ultimately about who you match up better with in your first semi-final game. You can loose no matter what your seed is....its about matchups. It seems when the coaches meet every year the top 2 teams usually decide who they match up with better in the semi and take the seed accordingly. I'm an idiot though. just my opinion.
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Post by BodyShots »

karl(east) wrote:Well, I had fun tonight. I sure didn't see that coming. Pure delight for an East fan...best atmosphere I've ever seen at Heritage too, though it helps when the big student section is in full party mode throughout the 3rd period.

How do you stop the Rapids top line? Don't let them have the puck. This was an East clinic in puck control, in taking the game to the opponent yet still maintaining great discipline. I'm struggling to think of a time when they got caught out in an odd-man rush. And while East did take a number of penalties, the PK was rock solid, and in general they made Meierhoff's job easy.

At the same time, this East team is more than some Randolph cycling machine. They let some of their individual talents shine: Worth was dangling all over the place, Mageau was a physical force who made some nice moves too, and LaMaster--what a relief to have him back--was a rock in the Hounds' zone.

If there was a moment when this game could have turned, it was late in the second, when East up just 1-0 and was just bombing away and in total control, but Holum was coming up with save after big save. I could see this turning into one of those games where East has so many shots and so few goals, and the other team springs a quick one or two to steal it. But Paine finally bombed in the PPG after a string of good chances, and the floodgates opened from there.

If East plays the way they did tonight, they have a chance to beat anyone. We'll see if they can keep the momentum going on Saturday against EP...they've owned 7AA so far (outscoring the section 23-2 in 4 games), but less impressive outside of it.

Rapids, as other people have noted, seemed undisciplined and scattered. If this were a close game you could argue the two defensemen missing was the difference, but it wasn't. They need to pull it together, or it will be a quick exit in the 7AA playoffs.
You take two of the top 4 D off any team in this state and they will struggle, both psychologically and physically. Mentally GR was out of this game before getting out of the locker room against HT.

I'll take GR in the rematch (if they are healthy and at full strength).
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Post by karl(east) »

Plenty to consider here. I certainly don't doubt Rapids' ability to flip the script in sections if they get it together, though I will refrain from offering any armchair psychology.

What we can establish is that Rapids has been on a downward trajectory in their last few games; it wasn't just missing a couple of players last night. They're giving up tons of shots in all of their games against other good teams, which is a slippery slope, and the disciplinary issues are persistent. No reason they can't turn it around, but this team's weaknesses weren't secrets, either, and they have work to do to get it together.

With East, who knows? After being pretty steady all season, we've seen them at their best and their worst in the span of the week, and time will tell if this is genuine improvement or not. At the very least, we've seen their ceiling. We'll see what they can offer against Eden Prairie.
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Post by Immigrant Fan »

No doubt the T-hawks are playing undisciplined and taking foolish penalties. But, I'm not ready to panic yet, since it was just a year ago we were lamenting the same mistakes. Then starting in the back half of January they started playing with more maturity and purpose. I trust Coach Klatt to redirect the team appropriately.

I'm puzzled by what was so egregious after the Hermantown game to induce two of a thin defense corps to draw (post)game misconduct penalties. If they put some visceral impulse ahead of the larger team goals, then they need some help to refocus and stay more mindful.

They can talk all they want about "unfinished business" in St. Paul, but they must take care of business between now and March to get there.
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Post by Goldyismoldy »

boblee wrote:Let's not wildly overreact on either team here. I can think of 2-3 examples off the top of my head where there was a lopsided game in the regular season between these two teams and the other team won in the playoffs. Lotta season left.
No-no-no-no-no-no.... Let it ride bobbers... It will be that much sweeter later.
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Interesting that in the two wins over East last season, Rapids had a combined 10 penalty minutes, and on Thursday they had a total of 28 penalty minutes (10 min was a misconduct).
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Post by Schotzy »

grindiangrad-80 wrote:
edgeless2 wrote:Does ifan do all east home games?
Not sure but I don't think they do them all. They do have nice coverage though.
iFan/My9 Sports Network does not do East games exclusively. In fact, East prefers that their games not be streamed on iFan. For what reason I am not sure. There was a lot of promotion of other ISD 709 activities with this double-header broadcast that made it possible and agreeable to the powers that be. This was the only East game that will be streamed or broadcast locally (Duluth) unless they make the 7-AA Championship.

Here are the remaining games coming up on iFan and My9 Sports Network.

1/17/17 - Duluth Denfeld vs. Duluth Marshall (7:00 PM)
1/24/17 - Hibbing-Chisholm vs. Duluth Denfeld (7:30 PM)
1/26/17 - Moose Lake Area vs. Proctor-Hermantown (girls) (7:30 PM)
1/31/17 - Virginia-MIB vs. Hermantown (7:30 PM)
2/7/17 - Hermnatown vs. Superior, WI (7:30 PM)
2/10/17 - Brainerd vs. Hermantown (7:30 PM)
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