NAHA

[jg2112]

"You still can't commit until you are eligible"

??? You mean NLI committed, or I'm announcing on twitter committed?

He must mean the latter. Grace Zumwinkle and Emily Brown both committed last fall as sophomores.

Until you sign the letter you are not actually committed. You can verbally commit but that is non binding.

And let's be 100% truthful here - a student-athlete has no obligation to sign a NLI either. The only entity bound by a NLI is the student-athlete.

[36Guy]

Any type of "committing" to a college is on the honor system. First, a school and a player agree on a "verbal" commitment. Then a player can sign their early National Letter of Intent on November 11 of their senior year. All "commitments" are basically on the honor system all the way through college. If a player decides at any point (even through college) that they do not want to honor it there is basically nothing the school can do. The same goes for the school. They pretty much can find a reasonable reason (effort) and remove your scholarships. Yeah, I get it... if either side really wants to push it with lawyers it can become sticky, but almost never does that happen. Most schools if they want you out will just put you in the stands for all games and see if you stick it out.

The word "commitment" is misleading in itself. We frequently use it like we would a 5 star quarterback going to Alabama where they are getting full rides (and then some!). Often people are like "Did you here so and so is going here?" or "Can you believe this...or why did she choose this?"

Commitment does not equal playing time and commitment does not equal scholarships. Everyone "announces" their commitment but nobody announces their scholarship offer. By no means am I suggesting that they should, but while opportunities are plentiful, full scholarships are not. I know many kids that are committed and getting 0-20% and Ivy's give none. It is no no different than football in college. 40 kids on every team are getting zero.

My point is not to belittle small scholarships or elevate those who got a lot, but rather to have people understand that "committing" often can be translated as opportunity.

The great part for all of these girls is gives them an opportunity to be a student athlete in college which I feel is amazing from the Gophers to Bethel. In addition, it often gets girls into fantastic higher academic schools of which often they would not qualify for. Congrats to all the girls who are getting from 0 to fulls, It is a great opportunity for all and we all know it is what you make of it. Some walk ons will become stars and some stars will fade. Either way it all comes down to a degree!!!

[zambonidriver]

Any type of "committing" to a college is on the honor system. First, a school and a player agree on a "verbal" commitment. Then a player can sign their early National Letter of Intent on November 11 of their senior year. All "commitments" are basically on the honor system all the way through college. If a player decides at any point (even through college) that they do not want to honor it there is basically nothing the school can do. The same goes for the school. They pretty much can find a reasonable reason (effort) and remove your scholarships. Yeah, I get it... if either side really wants to push it with lawyers it can become sticky, but almost never does that happen. Most schools if they want you out will just put you in the stands for all games and see if you stick it out.

The word "commitment" is misleading in itself. We frequently use it like we would a 5 star quarterback going to Alabama where they are getting full rides (and then some!). Often people are like "Did you here so and so is going here?" or "Can you believe this...or why did she choose this?"

Commitment does not equal playing time and commitment does not equal scholarships. Everyone "announces" their commitment but nobody announces their scholarship offer. By no means am I suggesting that they should, but while opportunities are plentiful, full scholarships are not. I know many kids that are committed and getting 0-20% and Ivy's give none. It is no no different than football in college. 40 kids on every team are getting zero.

My point is not to belittle small scholarships or elevate those who got a lot, but rather to have people understand that "committing" often can be translated as opportunity.

The great part for all of these girls is gives them an opportunity to be a student athlete in college which I feel is amazing from the Gophers to Bethel. In addition, it often gets girls into fantastic higher academic schools of which often they would not qualify for. Congrats to all the girls who are getting from 0 to fulls, It is a great opportunity for all and we all know it is what you make of it. Some walk ons will become stars and some stars will fade. Either way it all comes down to a degree!!!

Bravo

[jg2112]

Any type of "committing" to a college is on the honor system. First, a school and a player agree on a "verbal" commitment. Then a player can sign their early National Letter of Intent on November 11 of their senior year. All "commitments" are basically on the honor system all the way through college. If a player decides at any point (even through college) that they do not want to honor it there is basically nothing the school can do. The same goes for the school. They pretty much can find a reasonable reason (effort) and remove your scholarships. Yeah, I get it... if either side really wants to push it with lawyers it can become sticky, but almost never does that happen. Most schools if they want you out will just put you in the stands for all games and see if you stick it out.

The word "commitment" is misleading in itself. We frequently use it like we would a 5 star quarterback going to Alabama where they are getting full rides (and then some!). Often people are like "Did you here so and so is going here?" or "Can you believe this...or why did she choose this?"

Commitment does not equal playing time and commitment does not equal scholarships. Everyone "announces" their commitment but nobody announces their scholarship offer. By no means am I suggesting that they should, but while opportunities are plentiful, full scholarships are not. I know many kids that are committed and getting 0-20% and Ivy's give none. It is no no different than football in college. 40 kids on every team are getting zero.

My point is not to belittle small scholarships or elevate those who got a lot, but rather to have people understand that "committing" often can be translated as opportunity.

The great part for all of these girls is gives them an opportunity to be a student athlete in college which I feel is amazing from the Gophers to Bethel. In addition, it often gets girls into fantastic higher academic schools of which often they would not qualify for. Congrats to all the girls who are getting from 0 to fulls, It is a great opportunity for all and we all know it is what you make of it. Some walk ons will become stars and some stars will fade. Either way it all comes down to a degree!!!

Does the B1G guarantee four-year scholarships now for all student-athletes, or is this for just football players?

Also, I like and agree with your post as well.

[36Guy]

Any type of "committing" to a college is on the honor system. First, a school and a player agree on a "verbal" commitment. Then a player can sign their early National Letter of Intent on November 11 of their senior year. All "commitments" are basically on the honor system all the way through college. If a player decides at any point (even through college) that they do not want to honor it there is basically nothing the school can do. The same goes for the school. They pretty much can find a reasonable reason (effort) and remove your scholarships. Yeah, I get it... if either side really wants to push it with lawyers it can become sticky, but almost never does that happen. Most schools if they want you out will just put you in the stands for all games and see if you stick it out.

The word "commitment" is misleading in itself. We frequently use it like we would a 5 star quarterback going to Alabama where they are getting full rides (and then some!). Often people are like "Did you here so and so is going here?" or "Can you believe this...or why did she choose this?"

Commitment does not equal playing time and commitment does not equal scholarships. Everyone "announces" their commitment but nobody announces their scholarship offer. By no means am I suggesting that they should, but while opportunities are plentiful, full scholarships are not. I know many kids that are committed and getting 0-20% and Ivy's give none. It is no no different than football in college. 40 kids on every team are getting zero.

My point is not to belittle small scholarships or elevate those who got a lot, but rather to have people understand that "committing" often can be translated as opportunity.

The great part for all of these girls is gives them an opportunity to be a student athlete in college which I feel is amazing from the Gophers to Bethel. In addition, it often gets girls into fantastic higher academic schools of which often they would not qualify for. Congrats to all the girls who are getting from 0 to fulls, It is a great opportunity for all and we all know it is what you make of it. Some walk ons will become stars and some stars will fade. Either way it all comes down to a degree!!!

Does the B1G guarantee four-year scholarships now for all student-athletes, or is this for just football players?

Also, I like and agree with your post as well.

To my knowledge they are 4 year offers, I have not heard differently from anyone.

[alcloseshaver]

36, Your last two posts are spot on, nice work.

[SECoach]

As of 2010, Bylaw 15.3.3.1. for Division I athletic programs differs little from the one-year rule invoked in 1973, as it reads, "If a student's athletics ability is considered in any degree in awarding financial aid, such aid shall neither be awarded for a period in excess of one academic year nor for a period less than one academic year."[4] In addition to the "One-Year Period", the Bylaws also address recommendations made to extend the one-year term, as well as the policies surrounding injury or illness. Specifically, Bylaw 15.3.3.1.3 states that "It is not permissible for an institution to assure the prospective student-athlete that it automatically will continue a grant-in-aid past the one-year period if the recipient sustains an injury that prevents him or her from competing in intercollegiate athletics, but an institutional representative may inform the prospective student-athlete of the regular institutional policy related to renewal or continuation of aid past the one-year period for recipients who become ill or injured during their participation."[

Also as a small correction, a NLI is only signed if there is financial compensation of "value". Therefore those receiving $0.00 would NOT sign a letter of intent.

[jg2112]

As of 2010, Bylaw 15.3.3.1. for Division I athletic programs differs little from the one-year rule invoked in 1973, as it reads, "If a student's athletics ability is considered in any degree in awarding financial aid, such aid shall neither be awarded for a period in excess of one academic year nor for a period less than one academic year."[4] In addition to the "One-Year Period", the Bylaws also address recommendations made to extend the one-year term, as well as the policies surrounding injury or illness. Specifically, Bylaw 15.3.3.1.3 states that "It is not permissible for an institution to assure the prospective student-athlete that it automatically will continue a grant-in-aid past the one-year period if the recipient sustains an injury that prevents him or her from competing in intercollegiate athletics, but an institutional representative may inform the prospective student-athlete of the regular institutional policy related to renewal or continuation of aid past the one-year period for recipients who become ill or injured during their participation."[

Also as a small correction, a NLI is only signed if there is financial compensation of "value". Therefore those receiving $0.00 would NOT sign a letter of intent.

I was thinking of this:

ROSEMONT, Ill. - Big Ten directors of athletics, senior woman administrators and faculty representatives met Oct. 6 and 7 at the conference headquarters in Rosemont, Ill., and agreed to ensure that any student-athlete recruited to a Big Ten institution through the offer of an athletic scholarship will be guaranteed the following throughout the course of their enrollment:

• The scholarship will neither be reduced nor cancelled provided he or she remains a member in good standing with the community, the university and the athletics department.

• If a student-athlete's pursuit of an undergraduate degree is interrupted for a bona fide reason, that student-athlete may return to the institution at any time to complete his or her degree with the assistance of an athletic scholarship.

The Big Ten will continue to work toward the implementation of additional student-athlete welfare proposals through individual institutional action, conference-wide action or under the NCAA autonomy governance structure, including full grant-in-aids to meet cost of education and improved medical insurance. The conference has also agreed to address additional issues such as health and safety, time demands and comprehensive academic support.

http://www.bigten.org/genrel/100814aaa.html