Is everyone overlooking section 8AA?

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:49 pm

No way. Bemidji is good

thespellchecker · Post by **thespellchecker** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:50 pm

3AA is the weakest conference. Just wanted to share that. Thank you

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:54 pm

If you are talking Bemidji's strength, they are physical but not real big, average size.
Their strength is
1st line - fast & skilled
2nd line - fast & skilled
3rd line - skilled and fast
4th lime - smart and physical
4 D that move the puck up ice by themselves and are very good passers.
5 D not as versed at carrying the puck, but perhaps has the best shot from the blue line (hard and accurate).
6th D is young and gets less time.
Goal tending very good to excellent (and very little difference between 1 and 2 - thus making for very effective practice).

Coaching, we have a Thief River guy, a Rochester guy, a Warroad guy, not sure where the 4th guy is from. So between the 4 of 'em there is at least one brain (J/K can't help myself)

IGotDibs · Post by **IGotDibs** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:05 pm

thestickler07 wrote:Sneaky title, saying "8AA" instead of "Bemidji".

Im all about that Moorhead Spud Train thats about to roll into the cities! (slapshooter like

) I live in Bemidji and would love to see the Jacks get their shot!

IGotDibs · Post by **IGotDibs** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:08 pm

elliott70 wrote:If you are talking Bemidji's strength, they are physical but not real big, average size.
Their strength is
1st line - fast & skilled
2nd line - fast & skilled
3rd line - skilled and fast
4th lime - smart and physical
4 D that move the puck up ice by themselves and are very good passers.
5 D not as versed at carrying the puck, but perhaps has the best shot from the blue line (hard and accurate).
6th D is young and gets less time.
Goal tending very good to excellent (and very little difference between 1 and 2 - thus making for very effective practice).

Coaching, we have a Thief River guy, a Rochester guy, a Warroad guy, not sure where the 4th guy is from. So between the 4 of 'em there is at least one brain (J/K can't help myself)

Youre saying Jake Lietner isn't one of the more physical kids in the state?

IGotDibs · Post by **IGotDibs** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:09 pm

Kids a wrecking crew!

Conrad · Post by **Conrad** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:28 pm

thespellchecker wrote:3AA is the weakest conference. Just wanted to share that. Thank you

3AA might be down in overall talent this year, but STA is one of the top 3 teams in the state. Likely have several D1 players in their top 2 forward lines.

Good luck to Bemidji in their quest to the Excel Center. Current group of kids have been very close to getting to State at the lower levels.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:30 pm

IGotDibs wrote:
elliott70 wrote:If you are talking Bemidji's strength, they are physical but not real big, average size.
Their strength is
1st line - fast & skilled
2nd line - fast & skilled
3rd line - skilled and fast
4th lime - smart and physical
4 D that move the puck up ice by themselves and are very good passers.
5 D not as versed at carrying the puck, but perhaps has the best shot from the blue line (hard and accurate).
6th D is young and gets less time.
Goal tending very good to excellent (and very little difference between 1 and 2 - thus making for very effective practice).

Coaching, we have a Thief River guy, a Rochester guy, a Warroad guy, not sure where the 4th guy is from. So between the 4 of 'em there is at least one brain (J/K can't help myself)
Youre saying Jake Lietner isn't one of the more physical kids in the state?

My buddy Jake plays physical, but he is not oversized.
Not small, but at 6 feet 170 not a real big guy.
But he loves to hit.

pekyman · Post by **pekyman** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:51 pm

elliott70 wrote:If you are talking Bemidji's strength, they are physical but not real big, average size.
Their strength is
1st line - fast & skilled
2nd line - fast & skilled
3rd line - skilled and fast
4th lime - smart and physical
4 D that move the puck up ice by themselves and are very good passers.
5 D not as versed at carrying the puck, but perhaps has the best shot from the blue line (hard and accurate).
6th D is young and gets less time.
Goal tending very good to excellent (and very little difference between 1 and 2 - thus making for very effective practice).

Coaching, we have a Thief River guy, a Rochester guy, a Warroad guy, not sure where the 4th guy is from. So between the 4 of 'em there is at least one brain (J/K can't help myself)

Must have been your JV team that played HT then right?

thespellchecker · Post by **thespellchecker** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:10 pm

Conrad wrote:
thespellchecker wrote:3AA is the weakest conference. Just wanted to share that. Thank you
3AA might be down in overall talent this year, but STA is one of the top 3 teams in the state. Likely have several D1 players in their top 2 forward lines.

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elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:25 pm

pekyman wrote:
elliott70 wrote:If you are talking Bemidji's strength, they are physical but not real big, average size.
Their strength is
1st line - fast & skilled
2nd line - fast & skilled
3rd line - skilled and fast
4th lime - smart and physical
4 D that move the puck up ice by themselves and are very good passers.
5 D not as versed at carrying the puck, but perhaps has the best shot from the blue line (hard and accurate).
6th D is young and gets less time.
Goal tending very good to excellent (and very little difference between 1 and 2 - thus making for very effective practice).

Coaching, we have a Thief River guy, a Rochester guy, a Warroad guy, not sure where the 4th guy is from. So between the 4 of 'em there is at least one brain (J/K can't help myself)
Must have been your JV team that played HT then right?

2 player missing form 1st line, 1 from the third and a starting D.
But losing to Hermantown is nothing to be ashamed about.

warriors41 · Post by **warriors41** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:37 pm

elliott70 wrote:
pekyman wrote:
elliott70 wrote:If you are talking Bemidji's strength, they are physical but not real big, average size.
Their strength is
1st line - fast & skilled
2nd line - fast & skilled
3rd line - skilled and fast
4th lime - smart and physical
4 D that move the puck up ice by themselves and are very good passers.
5 D not as versed at carrying the puck, but perhaps has the best shot from the blue line (hard and accurate).
6th D is young and gets less time.
Goal tending very good to excellent (and very little difference between 1 and 2 - thus making for very effective practice).

Coaching, we have a Thief River guy, a Rochester guy, a Warroad guy, not sure where the 4th guy is from. So between the 4 of 'em there is at least one brain (J/K can't help myself)
Must have been your JV team that played HT then right?
2 player missing form 1st line, 1 from the third and a starting D.
But losing to Hermantown is nothing to be ashamed about.

I talked to one of the coaches about that loss this weekend and he didn't seem to think the Hermantown game would be indicative of how potential games in the state tourny might go. A lot of their best players out of the lineup like you said. He said he was really excited to see how this year turns out, and thinks they should be even better next year.

Let's not forget Bemiji is a young team. Only 2 seniors this year I think. There are gonna be some games where they don't play like they should. If they make it to state, I expect them to play very competitively.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:59 pm

warriors41 wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
pekyman wrote: Must have been your JV team that played HT then right?
2 player missing form 1st line, 1 from the third and a starting D.
But losing to Hermantown is nothing to be ashamed about.
I talked to one of the coaches about that loss this weekend and he didn't seem to think the Hermantown game would be indicative of how potential games in the state tourny might go. A lot of their best players out of the lineup like you said. He said he was really excited to see how this year turns out, and thinks they should be even better next year.

Let's not forget Bemiji is a young team. Only 2 seniors this year I think. There are gonna be some games where they don't play like they should. If they make it to state, I expect them to play very competitively.

6 seniors
1 first liner
1 starting D
2 on 4th line
2 goalies
a seventh senior suffered a concussion and is done playing hockey or other contact sports.

The big ? is goal tending. JV have 2 good ones but JV and varsity are two different things.

warriors41 · Post by **warriors41** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:22 pm

elliott70 wrote:
warriors41 wrote:
elliott70 wrote: 2 player missing form 1st line, 1 from the third and a starting D.
But losing to Hermantown is nothing to be ashamed about.
I talked to one of the coaches about that loss this weekend and he didn't seem to think the Hermantown game would be indicative of how potential games in the state tourny might go. A lot of their best players out of the lineup like you said. He said he was really excited to see how this year turns out, and thinks they should be even better next year.

Let's not forget Bemiji is a young team. Only 2 seniors this year I think. There are gonna be some games where they don't play like they should. If they make it to state, I expect them to play very competitively.
6 seniors
1 first liner
1 starting D
2 on 4th line
2 goalies
a seventh senior suffered a concussion and is done playing hockey or other contact sports.

The big ? is goal tending. JV have 2 good ones but JV and varsity are two different things.

I think the coach I spoke with said there is a freshman who's going to be a sophomore next year that they expect to start. I don't know he's doing bantams or is JV right now. Way too early to know for sure though.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:37 pm

warriors41 wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
warriors41 wrote: I talked to one of the coaches about that loss this weekend and he didn't seem to think the Hermantown game would be indicative of how potential games in the state tourny might go. A lot of their best players out of the lineup like you said. He said he was really excited to see how this year turns out, and thinks they should be even better next year.

Let's not forget Bemiji is a young team. Only 2 seniors this year I think. There are gonna be some games where they don't play like they should. If they make it to state, I expect them to play very competitively.
6 seniors
1 first liner
1 starting D
2 on 4th line
2 goalies
a seventh senior suffered a concussion and is done playing hockey or other contact sports.

The big ? is goal tending. JV have 2 good ones but JV and varsity are two different things.
I think the coach I spoke with said there is a freshman who's going to be a sophomore next year that they expect to start. I don't know he's doing bantams or is JV right now. Way too early to know for sure though.

Matt F. is F goalie on JV that should get the starting nod but the other goalie is decent also.
But again, they are JV. We will see what happens.
Matt F is a very good baseball player....
maybe start playing baseball year around?????????

greenway1969 · Post by **greenway1969** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:38 pm

It's a good thing to be overlooked. If Bemidji does make it to State they will not be appreciated because they have not played any Metro teams. The only thing that will be said about them is that they beat Moorhead three times (major accomplishment in my eyes). Probably, not a strong resume compared to the other participants. I'm not saying Bemidji isn't good, but that is how they will be perceived. If I could pick one team to get to State it would be Bemidji. It would be good to see fresh blood and Elliott in a state of euphoria and in stage one of a nervous breakdown :D .

WestMetro · Post by **WestMetro** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:06 pm

Was the Jacks heartbreaking championship loss 40 or 41 years ago?

SPUDNUT · Post by **SPUDNUT** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:53 pm

WarmUpTheBus wrote:I agree. Section 8AA winner will be a strong contender for Consolation Championship again this year.

Hate to burst yer bubble, but . . . . . "Consolation" is NOT a "Championship"

green4 · Post by **green4** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:29 am

nahc wrote:Um, here we go again with the 1AA bashing!! Long history of success? Nope. Recent history (last 5 years) of success (ie Consolation championship, 3rd place finish, state runnerup) is darn close to being the best AA finshes in the state!!! This year will be no acception......!!!!!! Jaugernaut or no jaunernaut!!!

Even with the "recent success" I still find it funny how for at least the last three years at state they have had a game go into running time cause they get spanked so bad.

nahc · Post by **nahc** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:26 am

Green so what does that say about the teams that have been beaten for the 1AA team to get to where they ended up? One bad game does not make a regular season or tourney ....

WarmUpTheBus · Post by **WarmUpTheBus** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:28 am

SPUDNUT wrote:
WarmUpTheBus wrote:I agree. Section 8AA winner will be a strong contender for Consolation Championship again this year.

Hate to burst yer bubble, but . . . . . "Consolation" is NOT a "Championship"

fa-ce-tious
[fuh-see-shuh s]
adjective
1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally:
"a facetious remark."

2. amusing; humorous.

3. lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential, amusing, or frivolous:
"a facetious person."

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:32 am

WarmUpTheBus wrote:
SPUDNUT wrote:
WarmUpTheBus wrote:I agree. Section 8AA winner will be a strong contender for Consolation Championship again this year.

Hate to burst yer bubble, but . . . . . "Consolation" is NOT a "Championship"

fa-ce-tious
[fuh-see-shuh s]
adjective
1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally:
"a facetious remark."

2. amusing; humorous.

3. lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential, amusing, or frivolous:
"a facetious person."

Besides LN has a lock on the Con Trophy.

norcon · Post by **norcon** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:07 am

elliott70 wrote:If you are talking Bemidji's strength, they are physical but not real big, average size.
Their strength is
1st line - fast & skilled
2nd line - fast & skilled
3rd line - skilled and fast
4th lime - smart and physical
4 D that move the puck up ice by themselves and are very good passers.
5 D not as versed at carrying the puck, but perhaps has the best shot from the blue line (hard and accurate).
6th D is young and gets less time.
Goal tending very good to excellent (and very little difference between 1 and 2 - thus making for very effective practice).

Coaching, we have a Thief River guy, a Rochester guy, a Warroad guy, not sure where the 4th guy is from. So between the 4 of 'em there is at least one brain (J/K can't help myself)

Book the trip to St. Paul now!! Would love to see the Jacks down at the Excel, but their weak schedule is going to catch up with them and they will not handle the pressure of playing in a game with something on the line.

green4 · Post by **green4** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:20 am

nahc wrote:Green so what does that say about the teams that have been beaten for the 1AA team to get to where they ended up? One bad game does not make a regular season or tourney ....

It means nothing about the other teams. I Don't care about the other teams, I'm talking about your teams. One game might not make a season, but from 2014, the thing I will always remember about North was how they did a no show and got shellacked in the biggest game of the season. In 2012 the thing I will always remember about South is not the upset but them looking like a team from section 3A and giving up double digits to Benilde. Maybe I remember that being a negative person, but that game really stuck out to me. 2013 North was only at the X for one game where they gave up 9 so I don't really have much else to say about that one.
If you really want to boast about 1AA being successful then go ahead, but in reality they come from the easiest section and ONLY have two respectable finishes in 3rd from South and 2nd from North. However, I do expect North to get another respectable finish this year with a 2nd place ribbon.

Sorry for taking over the 8AA thread with this 1AA nonsense, I really hope Bemidji makes it. They seem to have a bright future and Im hopeful that I might be able to see them play at the X

WestMetro · Post by **WestMetro** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:25 am

Going back and checking, it seems like it was March 1974 when Bemidji lost in the championship game. Was anyone out there at that game?