Duluth Marshall starting MSHSL Girls Hockey in 2014-15

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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey »

JohnnyBuck wrote:
Hard water fan wrote: MSHSL won't look too kindly on that, especially if he's planning on taking the team to a late summer East Coast tournament. I think someone from Blake got the broom for that?
PL
Actually Breck's coach got the broom for that one.
I think that's either incorrect or he saw into the future when he started making calls for AA long before any late summer tournament.
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Post by observer »

Some confusion here. The Breck Coach that lost his job preceded Chris Peterson's two years there. It was Lenny Vannelli who was in violation when he took a CADP team to a tourney summer 2011.
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Post by Nimrod »

My opiinion on this entire post is let the coaches coach, let the players play and let the parents guide their kids towards the option that best fits their needs (academically, atheltically, socially and/or convenience). Options are good. Our society is built on free enterprise. Rather than fighting change to protect turf, build a better mouse trap so people will want your product instead of the newest thing. Build your program so that people will want to stay and/or attract others to you. If the newest thing fails, so be it. Maybe in the process it forces others to improve their product when forced to compete and everyone wins in the end. It starts with building a sense of community at the youth level so their is a relationship with the HS team before these choices are even considered.
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Post by JohnnyBuck »

For a Nimrod, that's a great post. :D
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Post by Rocketwrister »

???
Nevertoomuchhockey
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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey »

???? What???
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Post by JohnnyBuck »

Rumor is the "new girls program" is dead in the water again. What's up with this program? I thought they hired a coach and everything? Man, they are the AA of the north.
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Post by observer »

I've said it about 50 times. You start with recruiting 5 year old players. Count the number of U8 and U10 teams in the Duluth Youth Hockey Association and you have a look to the future. And, generally, the numbers shrink through the years.

Other parents from the school probably questioned potential expenditures and asked, why not theater, dance, science, robotics, etc? Why a girls hockey team when there are no girls requesting one?
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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey »

I agree they have had their share of issues. But to compare the new team they are legally struggling to build to the issues at Achiever is wrong on so many levels. And pretty mean.
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Post by JohnnyBuck »

Huh? Do you want to get me started NTMH? Let's be real here. The first go around was a shame and had nothing to do with the kids. Rumor is the second go around was not much better with the coach getting fired before it started.
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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey »

I know exactly what happened the first time. Nobody knows what is happening now. None of it has ever had to do with the kids. And they never cheated about ineligible players, and the school itself offers a pretty damn good academic record compared to the online hockey academy. Feel free and "get started" if youd like to get it off your chest or know what's really going on now. But again, what happened with AA - from how it started, was organized, and perpetuated with ongoing violations of every kind and color.... Well it just isn't even close to the same.
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Post by Rocketwrister »

Hesrd Marshall officially pulled plug on the program. Done.
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Rocketwrister wrote:Hesrd Marshall officially pulled plug on the program. Done.
100% NOT TRUE
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Post by pepperpot »

Tell us all about it rocket. Heard they couldn't get games. Nieces coach with the Jacks wouldn't play them. Coach Cool resigned before playing a game by sending out a email? Maybe Coach Cool thought he could get a job with the Jacks? Maybe he's the one stirring the pot over at Duluth so he can be reconsidered for that job. What a mess. I will say that at both Cloquet and Duluth there is more fault with the parents than the coaches. Crazy, crazy parents that won't let there kids be coached. What's next for Marshall? A new coach? Maybe a bandy team? Congrats to Mirage for keeping their nose clean. The team with the least amount of depth and the least amount of coaching drama makes it to state. Hmmm. Let them coach parents, let them coach.
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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey »

Oh no. Jv team in Cloquet won't schedule us. Better can the program? Your reasoning is faulty.

That team doesn't want to lose 10-0 to a bunch of 12uA players. It's not like they are already handling a full schedule of top teams.

You should address the talent level and frustrations at Cloquet and Duluth on another thread. You should confine yourself to only your massive library of Marshall knowledge here.
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Post by powerplayer »

pepperpot wrote:Tell us all about it rocket. Heard they couldn't get games. Nieces coach with the Jacks wouldn't play them. Coach Cool resigned before playing a game by sending out a email? Maybe Coach Cool thought he could get a job with the Jacks? Maybe he's the one stirring the pot over at Duluth so he can be reconsidered for that job. What a mess. I will say that at both Cloquet and Duluth there is more fault with the parents than the coaches. Crazy, crazy parents that won't let there kids be coached. What's next for Marshall? A new coach? Maybe a bandy team? Congrats to Mirage for keeping their nose clean. The team with the least amount of depth and the least amount of coaching drama makes it to state. Hmmm. Let them coach parents, let them coach.
Thanks for the compliment pepperpot. You are 100% true in your statement about the Mirage. We have great kids, great coaches, great parents and no team drama. Our Mirage FAMILY couldn't be prouder :D
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Post by pepperpot »

Neveronewithoutanopinon, you refer to Marshall as "US"? I guess you do have some skin in the game, huh? Weren't the privates in the cities good enough for you? You seem to have lots of kids playing on lots of teams. Your ignorance once again leaves us wondering how you even passed drivers ed. Pay attention now Mr. Never: Most teams won't play just a JV team. They have limited dollars and need to consolidate games with both Varsity and JV. It has nothing to do with playing a bunch of first year skater 12 year olds spawned from mouthy silver spoons. Just because you were a bedwetter and Mommy wouldn't let you play contact sports doesn't mean you can will your kids into being an athletic phenom, OK?? Give it a rest. Let 'em play your clarinet. You'll be less disappointed and it will free up the time you spend commenting on every thread on this and every other hockey blog.
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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey »

First of all I was speaking in the affected sarcastic voice of the former coach. As if Cloquet jv had an impact on his decision.

And as has been stated in this thread and newspaper article, they were trying to play a jv schedule. Against jv teams. Pretty sure that's allowed.

You just stay on your pro hinterland BUT down on privates agenda. Must hurt that your beloved Mirage got beat by an upstart private at the X. If you read all my posts rather than cherry pick your favorites you would know exactly where my kids play and where my allegiances lie. But then you couldn't craft every argument into a personal attack on me.

And OMG, there's another hockey blog??
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Post by JohnnyBuck »

NTMH.............Why does Marshall not just try and play at the 14U level? Woked before until someone was thnking wit the wrong head. Seems to me there are enough girls there to scracth out a 14U team?

My point earlier is that Marshall looks foolish everytime they take one step forward and two steps back. Why they keep hiring clowns is beyond me. And for the Mirage....................good for them. No drama, great program in a great community. Please leave them out of it, they didn't hire an attorney to get to state.
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Post by pepperpot »

Get the dunce cap. nevertoomuchverbaldiarrhea, you really need to pay closer attention. It's not a matter of can they, it's a matter of will they. And obviously they (probably all) wouldn't because Marshall didn't have a Varsity team too. Comprende now muchacho? As far as the Mirage, I know they lost a game but I couldn't tell you who it was. I'll take your word that it was an upstart. Was it cheater academy? Was it your daughters team? Maybe your sons? My Nieces teams didn't make it this year. Maybe next. I simply was congratulating a team that seems to rise above it all. Now, get back to work and keep on commenting on all of the other threads. We can never have enough of your stupidity. It makes all of us others look like Mensa members.
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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey »

I agree with all of that Johnny. Except the attorney thing. I was just trying to push peppers buttons but I didn't mean to do it at the expense of the Mirage. I don't know enough about any of the programs up there and I certainly support girls hockey everywhere. My apologies to that team. As for Marshall, seems no one knows. Certainly not pepper or the school itself. Maybe hockeystorm can expand his comment?
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Post by Nimrod »

Once again NTMH and Pepper provide us good entertainment. I don't know about the rest of you but I think they are the same person fighting with each other. Kind of like that Mr. Right and Mr. Left guy. Good stuff guys.
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Post by ShakestheClown »

Nimrod wrote:Once again NTMH and Pepper provide us good entertainment. I don't know about the rest of you but I think they are the same person fighting with each other. Kind of like that Mr. Right and Mr. Left guy. Good stuff guys.
I want very much for this to be true.
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Post by nu2hockey »

Shakes' wish may be true...ntmh' s delusional statements that his teams' sweater/sock combo are attractive would indicate a severe psychosis at best.
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Post by JohnnyBuck »

Rumor is this program is trying it again? Hired a coach from Cloquet program? Anyone have any inside info or do I have to wIt for NTMH to enlighten us?
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