Hermantown vs Eagan 12-27-12 8:15PM

[PuckRanger]

... Lindgren who ends up saving 44 of 49 shots thrown at him....

.....I predicted a 5-2 Eagan win and thats what it should have been if it hadnt been for the major penalty called.

I would just say this, its hard to expect a 5-2 win when you allow your opponent 49 shots on goal - major penalty or not, that's a lot of shots and 5 goals is about the least you are going to give up unless your goaltender is standing on his head making saves all night.

[scorekeeper]

That's his point. About 20 of the 49 came on that major. They have a helluva power play.

Even strength it was 5-1 Eagan with shots about 40-29 favoring the Wildcats, so his 5-2 prediction is a good one sans the extra penalty minutes.

[PuckRanger]

That's his point. About 20 of the 49 came on that major. They have a helluva power play.

Even strength it was 5-1 Eagan with shots about 40-29 favoring the Wildcats, so his 5-2 prediction is a good one sans the extra penalty minutes.

I see the point. I would argue that the major is not "extra", it is part of the game and its been a little over exaggerated in this thread. Most games have at least one of them called these days.

And to clarify, Hermantown only scored 3 goals on that major, not 4 -- and by my count, the goalie had 8 saves during that penalty for a total of 11 shots.

Since Eagan ended up with 38 shots on goal, my math says shots were 38-38 outside of that major, and given that Hermantown would likely have gotten a few during that span even without the penalty, they still would have ended up with over 40 shots on goal in the game. With that, I still stand by my original thought - You can't expect to win 5-2 giving up 40+ shots.

[HappyHockeyFan]

I wasnt expecting 40+ shots in predicting a 5-2 win as I didnt predict a 5 major being called. With that being said, maybe in the future I need to expect a 5 major being called with the frequency this team is getting them.

[D3Referee]

Since Eagan ended up with 38 shots on goal, my math says shots were 38-38 outside of that major, and given that Hermantown would likely have gotten a few during that span even without the penalty, they still would have ended up with over 40 shots on goal in the game. With that, I still stand by my original thought - You can't expect to win 5-2 giving up 40+ shots.

Quit cryin and take your loss like a man. (I know- wah, wah wah it's not a loss it's a tie wah, wah. everybody gets a ribbon, I know). You lost. Suck it up butter cup.

Shots on goal are the most over-rated stat in hockey. Wayzata just got "outshot" 40-19 and won 7-1. Skilled players seek quality shots over quantity. Your "math". Sheesh. Get a life

[HShockeywatcher]

Since Eagan ended up with 38 shots on goal, my math says shots were 38-38 outside of that major, and given that Hermantown would likely have gotten a few during that span even without the penalty, they still would have ended up with over 40 shots on goal in the game. With that, I still stand by my original thought - You can't expect to win 5-2 giving up 40+ shots.

Quit cryin and take your loss like a man. (I know- wah, wah wah it's not a loss it's a tie wah, wah. everybody gets a ribbon, I know). You lost. Suck it up butter cup.

Shots on goal are the most over-rated stat in hockey. Wayzata just got "outshot" 40-19 and won 7-1. Skilled players seek quality shots over quantity. Your "math". Sheesh. Get a life

What loss? Eagan won the shootout and the tournament...

[D3Referee]

What loss? Eagan won the shootout and the tournament...

I know peaches. Everybody gets a ribbon. It's ok

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck - it's a duck. Sure looks like those Cats are quacking
http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/news_article ... r_id=32770

[pekyman]

Imo, Eagan was lucky to escape with a tie. One more period of OT and my money would have been on the Hawks as they controlled the end of the 3rd and the OT period more than Eagan. Also, if Eagan would have had another penalty it would have been lights out for them. The Hawks power play absolutely dominated Eagan and was very impressive. It was a great game between 2 very good teams.

[cooperalls4ever]

The game officially ended in a TIE. Eagan "skillfully" won a shootout. Congrats. Nothing more, nothing less. Wait, maybe a moral victory and a trophy for a school with an enrollment over 3x's their opponent.

Peaches, roses, etc. are for the NCAA and college D1 Football. And D3Referee and Scorekeeper may want some cheese with their Nachos as that's the direction this is going...

[almostashappy]

Wait, maybe a moral victory and a trophy for a school with an enrollment over 3x's their opponent.

Typical small school trash talk. If Eagan wins, it's "Ooh, wow, whoopee...you beat a school that's only one-third your size." If Eagan loses it's "HA HA HA You lost to a school that's only one-third your size!!!"

I have a lot of respect for Hermantown's team and coaching staff. Commentators like this one? Not so much.

[PuckRanger]

Since Eagan ended up with 38 shots on goal, my math says shots were 38-38 outside of that major, and given that Hermantown would likely have gotten a few during that span even without the penalty, they still would have ended up with over 40 shots on goal in the game. With that, I still stand by my original thought - You can't expect to win 5-2 giving up 40+ shots.

Quit cryin and take your loss like a man. (I know- wah, wah wah it's not a loss it's a tie wah, wah. everybody gets a ribbon, I know). You lost. Suck it up butter cup.

Shots on goal are the most over-rated stat in hockey. Wayzata just got "outshot" 40-19 and won 7-1. Skilled players seek quality shots over quantity. Your "math". Sheesh. Get a life

OK, its not my loss... I have no dog in this fight. I don't live near nor have any rooting interest for Hermantown. No where did I say Hermantown should have won. All I'm saying is Eagan is not 3 goals better than Hermantown as it was suggested.

To address the shots on goal, it is my opinion that if your allowing 40+ shots on goal, your probably spending too much time in your own end and when you do play against those "skilled" players, your going to give up some goals. Yes, I am aware there are rare anomalies like the Wayzata/Benilde game, but that is the exception, not the norm.

I'll take the high road on the rest of your remarks.

[D3Referee]

saw this one coming for a week or two... now, since hockeywatcher gets all kinds of crap on here, wonder where he'll place Hermantown next week after they come back (3-0)from a tourn vs. AA teams...

ohhhh, now I see where the pain comes from. so badly wanted to hang your hat on that didn't ya

[D3Referee]

Wait, maybe a moral victory and a trophy for a school with an enrollment over 3x's their opponent.

Typical small school trash talk. If Eagan wins, it's "Ooh, wow, whoopee...you beat a school that's only one-third your size." If Eagan loses it's "HA HA HA You lost to a school that's only one-third your size!!!"

I have a lot of respect for Hermantown's team and coaching staff. Commentators like this one? Not so much.

+1

[HappyHockeyFan]

Puckranger, I doubt you have seen one single Eagan game this year, because if you had you would know that Eagan is indeed 3 goals better than Hermantown. Once Eagan woke up and played to their capability they dominated Hermantown and scored 4 unanswered goals in the final 4 minutes of the 2nd period and they controlled most of the 3rd period except the last 3 minutes. Take away the 5 major and the game ends 5-2, end of story.

[PuckRanger]

Puckranger, I doubt you have seen one single Eagan game this year

Well, I did watch this entire game.

because if you had you would know that Eagan is indeed 3 goals better than Hermantown.

Even if I had seen Eagan play more than this game, I highly doubt I would think that. I have seen Hermantown play enough and some other top teams play enough to draw a comparison.

Once Eagan woke up and played to their capability they dominated Hermantown and scored 4 unanswered goals in the final 4 minutes of the 2nd period and they controlled most of the 3rd period except the last 3 minutes.

So your saying they basically dominated 18 minutes of a 59 minute game? What happened in the other 41 minutes? Also, one could argue that it had nothing to do with Eagan's play, but instead that Hermantown took their foot off the gas and let up after getting that lead and had trouble getting it back going again which led to Eagan's short little outburst.

Take away the 5 major

Well, you can't. It happened, and its part of the game. I can give a ton of examples where if you just take away this or that, the result changes.

and the game ends 5-2, end of story.

We can just agree to disagree on that.

[northwoods oldtimer]

PuckRanger, you cannot introduce logic to the "hockeyDJ" of Eagan hockey. Waste of time and energy!

[MrBoDangles]

[cooperalls4ever]

PuckRanger, you cannot introduce logic to the "hockeyDJ" of Eagan hockey. Waste of time and energy!

It's the same logic that because they are {INSERT RANKED AA SCHOOL HERE}, they are +3 goals better then that class A school. Or better yet, didn't you see that game? The other school scored 4 power play goals, if it weren't for that we win by at least 3! Funny how I didn't see Eden Praire use this logic in 2010 and 2011 when they played Hermantown. Oh, wait. Eden Praire actually WON their games, and they were very competitive.


cooperalls4ever wrote:
Wait, maybe a moral victory and a trophy for a school with an enrollment over 3x's their opponent.


Typical small school trash talk. If Eagan wins, it's "Ooh, wow, whoopee...you beat a school that's only one-third your size." If Eagan loses it's "HA HA HA You lost to a school that's only one-third your size!!!"

I have a lot of respect for Hermantown's team and coaching staff. Commentators like this one? Not so much.

Simple FACTS... I guess you don't like the facts. Please, don't wake up to reality, you might actually smell the roses. I'll expect all kinds of facts from now on! I'll take some popcorn, not a fan of nachos and cheese. Enjoy the show.

[D3Referee]

PuckRanger, you cannot introduce logic to the "hockeyDJ" of Eagan hockey.

clearly, no chance of that you'd have to have some before you can introduce it