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flatontheice
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Post by flatontheice »

keepyourheadup wrote:Justin has not made a decision where next year is concerned. He chose to try and get 10 games in at Waterloo to have some conrtol over where he would wind up in the USHL. He's draft elidgible and would rather not be so far from home is the word I got.
If he chose PK Ohandley as his preferred destination in the USHL...hes not to bright. :roll:
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Post by longdistancespectator8 »

I fail to understand your logic flatontheice.

As mentioned by keepyourheadup, the choice was waterloo so that he could remain closer to home, both to his liking and his parents liking if I were to guess.

Also, you insinuate that PK Ohandley does something to hold back players, or maybe because Waterloo is bad this year I am not really sure.
Well it can't be that he holds players back, I mean Joe Pavelski, Craig Smith (Wisconisn), JT Brown (UMD), Tyler Barnes (Wisconsin), Chris Student to name a few have had some success all played for Waterloo...

Please elaborate on Kloos's apparent lack of intelligence?
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Post by keepyourheadup »

So I guess the fact that PK is old school and expects a great deal from his players somehow translates into calling a kid you know nothing about "not to bright" Really no need for that, flat I'm surprised you'ld say that, you should know better.
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Post by wblhcky24 »

You're not very bright @flatontheice
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Post by Neuuman »

flatontheice wrote:
keepyourheadup wrote:Justin has not made a decision where next year is concerned. He chose to try and get 10 games in at Waterloo to have some conrtol over where he would wind up in the USHL. He's draft elidgible and would rather not be so far from home is the word I got.
If he chose PK Ohandley as his preferred destination in the USHL...hes not to bright. :roll:
I was going to try to write an eloquent response showing you the error of your ways calling a highly talented, straight "A" student "not to bright" (although most people with an understanding of the English language would have said "not too bright"). I've decided to go another route.

YOU'RE AN IDIOT.
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Post by Sats81 »

Bottom line: the kid can flat out play and will be a great pick up for wcha team. He will prove his worth in last part of USHL season and whether he goes back to hs or stays in USHL next yr he belongs at a WCHA school sooner than later.
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Post by keepyourheadup »

AJ Michealson will be joining Waterloo this weekend as well. Now we have two kids from SSC to ponder over. He must not be very bright either.
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Post by observer »

Were both drafted by Waterloo last May?
Is Waterloo in a position to make the playoffs?
Who wants to take a look at them and why?
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Post by trippedovertheblueline »

Best of luck too both of these hockey players. Hopefully it is a good experience for each. With that said, I hope they both decide to return to MN HighSchool for their senior year.
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Post by GordonBombay99 »

Nice to see Minnesota getting to show off some of our younger talent in the USHL.
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Post by Master Recruiter »

so Kloos just goes down to Waterloo on the weekends and plays?

what if the team plays during the week?

and Waterloo cut someone to pick up a HS player?

Im sure Kloos is good enough to play USHL, but Im just wondering how this whole finish the season thing works?
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Post by The Exiled One »

Master Recruiter wrote:so Kloos just goes down to Waterloo on the weekends and plays?

what if the team plays during the week?

and Waterloo cut someone to pick up a HS player?

Im sure Kloos is good enough to play USHL, but Im just wondering how this whole finish the season thing works?
Yes

As long as he gets his 10 games in, he'll have a spot on their roster next season. So, he can probably skip a game or two and still qualify. Or, he'll be doing a lot of driving.

Yes, somebody probably got cut and Kloos is probably better than him.
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Post by old goalie85 »

Kloos, and A.J. can car pool.
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Post by observer »

As long as he gets his 10 games in, he'll have a spot on their roster next season.
Explain this comment. What does this mean?

If they want him, and draft him in May, what difference does 10 games make? Seems like they extended some sort of tryout invitation, want to take a peek, and will still have to draft him won't they? And, none of the spots are guaranteed. If they draft, trade, find, players better than him he may not have a spot on the roster next year. Not saying that is likely, just possible.
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Post by Neuuman »

observer wrote:
As long as he gets his 10 games in, he'll have a spot on their roster next season.
Explain this comment. What does this mean?

If they want him, and draft him in May, what difference does 10 games make? Seems like they extended some sort of tryout invitation, want to take a peek, and will still have to draft him won't they? And, none of the spots are guaranteed. If they draft, trade, find, players better than him he may not have a spot on the roster next year. Not saying that is likely, just possible.
My understanding of USHL rules (which is limited, I grant you), is that you can "pick up" a previously undrafted/unaffiliated player and put them on your roster. If that player plays 10 games for your team, he becomes your "property". I think from Waterloo's standpoint, since Kloos has not yet been drafted, if they can get him to play 10 games for them, he'll be their "property" and they won't have to consume a draft choice to select him, if he were available in the upcoming USHL draft. From what I've heard, Kloos would (if not previously "acquired", for lack of a better word as mentioned above) be a very high, if not #1 overall pick. So, if Waterloo can get him to play in 10 games this year, they could pick up a quality player without having to consume a draft pick for him.

Just one man's opinion who has a rudimentary understanding of USHL rules..
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Post by The Exiled One »

Neuuman wrote:
observer wrote:
As long as he gets his 10 games in, he'll have a spot on their roster next season.
Explain this comment. What does this mean?

If they want him, and draft him in May, what difference does 10 games make? Seems like they extended some sort of tryout invitation, want to take a peek, and will still have to draft him won't they? And, none of the spots are guaranteed. If they draft, trade, find, players better than him he may not have a spot on the roster next year. Not saying that is likely, just possible.
My understanding of USHL rules (which is limited, I grant you), is that you can "pick up" a previously undrafted/unaffiliated player and put them on your roster. If that player plays 10 games for your team, he becomes your "property". I think from Waterloo's standpoint, since Kloos has not yet been drafted, if they can get him to play 10 games for them, he'll be their "property" and they won't have to consume a draft choice to select him, if he were available in the upcoming USHL draft. From what I've heard, Kloos would (if not previously "acquired", for lack of a better word as mentioned above) be a very high, if not #1 overall pick. So, if Waterloo can get him to play in 10 games this year, they could pick up a quality player without having to consume a draft pick for him.

Just one man's opinion who has a rudimentary understanding of USHL rules..
Correct. Brodzinski is doing the same thing with Fargo. In fact, for Jonny to get his ten games in with Fargo, he needed to play the night after his overtime state tournament consolation loss. That's got to be a REALLY long day.
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Post by cooper26 »

Neuuman wrote:
observer wrote:
As long as he gets his 10 games in, he'll have a spot on their roster next season.
Explain this comment. What does this mean?

If they want him, and draft him in May, what difference does 10 games make? Seems like they extended some sort of tryout invitation, want to take a peek, and will still have to draft him won't they? And, none of the spots are guaranteed. If they draft, trade, find, players better than him he may not have a spot on the roster next year. Not saying that is likely, just possible.
My understanding of USHL rules (which is limited, I grant you), is that you can "pick up" a previously undrafted/unaffiliated player and put them on your roster. If that player plays 10 games for your team, he becomes your "property". I think from Waterloo's standpoint, since Kloos has not yet been drafted, if they can get him to play 10 games for them, he'll be their "property" and they won't have to consume a draft choice to select him, if he were available in the upcoming USHL draft. From what I've heard, Kloos would (if not previously "acquired", for lack of a better word as mentioned above) be a very high, if not #1 overall pick. So, if Waterloo can get him to play in 10 games this year, they could pick up a quality player without having to consume a draft pick for him.

Just one man's opinion who has a rudimentary understanding of USHL rules..
My understanding also - and the benefit for Justin is, he isn't drafted by some USHL team far from home, like Ohio or Michigan.
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