Future Mr. Hockey?

oldguy39 · Post by **oldguy39** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:04 am

ZACH DURDEN 2010 CRETIN DEFENSEMEN

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:00 am

stopper1 wrote:Drafted by the Fargo Force and made the team. Still undecided whether he will play high school hockey or go to juniors. Ultimately I think it will depend on what the college coaches advise him to do. He is very capable of being Mr. Hockey.

So he'll listen to college coaches even if he hasn't committed to their program? How common is that? I know that Gardiner moved to defense based partially on the advise from Troy Jutting, though he didn't commit to MSUM. Do high school players take the advise of college coaches in hopes that they'll earn scholarships from that particular school, or from any school?

stopper1 · Post by **stopper1** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:41 pm

I think most high school players will take the advise of a college coach as long as there is some sort of verbal commitment or scholarship offer in the works.

GR3343 · Post by **GR3343** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:59 pm

stopper1 wrote:I think most high school players will take the advise of a college coach as long as there is some sort of verbal commitment or scholarship offer in the works.

I would think most if not all should take the advice offered from a college coach regardless of an offer. These coaches certainly wouldn't be offering tips that will hurt them.

EdinaFan22 · Post by **EdinaFan22** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:56 pm

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME! 2010 Mr. Hockeys i mean honestly they could be out of hockey by that time period! Lets just use our heads here and jst see how THIS season will pan out for all we know a kid from Sleepy Eye could have a tremendious season and come through the ranks!

Budish Fan for LIfe!

Papa Bergundy · Post by **Papa Bergundy** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:45 pm

mch wrote:
The Exiled One wrote:A very good group of fowards this year, depending on who stays...

Tyler Landman- Roseau
Danny Mattson- Academy Of Holy Angels
Marshall Everson- Edina
Zach Budish- Edina
Tyler Zepeda- Hill-Murray
Tyler Pitlick- Centennial
Nick Oliver- Roseau
Anders Lee- Edina
Josh Birkholz- Blake
Ben Hanowski- Little Falls
Tyler Lapic- New Prague

If the 2009 Mr. Hockey is a forward, he'll come from this list... bank on it. As for defensemen, I don't see enough depth to make the same claim. Leddy would be my best guess though.
from this list i'm gonna wager that a tyler wins it

Can a class A player even win the award? I am pretty sure they can't.

sinbin006 · Post by **sinbin006** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:57 pm

Papa Bergundy wrote:
mch wrote:
The Exiled One wrote:A very good group of fowards this year, depending on who stays...

Tyler Landman- Roseau
Danny Mattson- Academy Of Holy Angels
Marshall Everson- Edina
Zach Budish- Edina
Tyler Zepeda- Hill-Murray
Tyler Pitlick- Centennial
Nick Oliver- Roseau
Anders Lee- Edina
Josh Birkholz- Blake
Ben Hanowski- Little Falls
Tyler Lapic- New Prague

If the 2009 Mr. Hockey is a forward, he'll come from this list... bank on it. As for defensemen, I don't see enough depth to make the same claim. Leddy would be my best guess though.
from this list i'm gonna wager that a tyler wins it
Can a class A player even win the award? I am pretty sure they can't.

1998 - Johnny Pohl - Red Wing - Class A

schwang17 · Post by **schwang17** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:16 am

elliott70 wrote:future Mr Hockey?

Easton Elliott

Is he related to Bauer or Koho Elliott?

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:01 am

schwang17 wrote:
elliott70 wrote:future Mr Hockey?

Easton Elliott
Is he related to Bauer or Koho Elliott?

No, I think he's Bending Branches Elliots kid?

pondpucker13 · Post by **pondpucker13** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:58 pm

LetsPlayHockey22 wrote:
chachachachea...pet wrote:2009 Marshal Everson from Edina
2010 ??? Aus from Centenial
2011 Nick Bjudstedfrom Blaine, or Kyle Rau from Ep

anyone agree?
The word is that Bjugstad is going to Ann Arbor next year, the source wasn't very reliable but I do know he had a tryout, if true then he would not be in the running for MR HOCKEY

Bjugstad did make the NDP but decided to stay at blaine for his soph. year but after that who knows...

MnPride2 · Post by **MnPride2** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:45 pm

Mr. Bjugstad has my vote,great skater,great with the stick,great rink vision and hockey sense,he has all the tools to make it happen,plus his size is starting to come into play. Looks more like his uncle everyday. Rumor has it that after commiting to the Gophers,they don`t want him involved with the NTDP...?

Chuck Norris Fan · Post by **Chuck Norris Fan** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:02 pm

MnPride2 wrote:Mr. Bjugstad has my vote,great skater,great with the stick,great rink vision and hockey sense,he has all the tools to make it happen,plus his size is starting to come into play. Looks more like his uncle everyday. Rumor has it that after commiting to the Gophers,they don`t want him involved with the NTDP...?

I heard he is one concussion away from having to hang them up.

pondpucker13 · Post by **pondpucker13** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:06 pm

MnPride2 wrote:Mr. Bjugstad has my vote,great skater,great with the stick,great rink vision and hockey sense,he has all the tools to make it happen,plus his size is starting to come into play. Looks more like his uncle everyday. Rumor has it that after commiting to the Gophers,they don`t want him involved with the NTDP...?

I'm not sure if it was as much the gophers decision as it was his own. three years is a long time to be away from home and then add on some years of college. I'm sure he will develop just fine without the extra year of NTDP

Doglover · Post by **Doglover** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:49 am

Isn't Bjugstad a '92? Is he even eligible for Mr. Hockey yet??

Also, CNF - I think that's a pretty serious rumor that you may be starting on this board. In my opinion, it's not right to print those things. He's a great kid and they are a great family who obviously understand hockey. No purpose for suggesting rumors anyway. I think you may want to consider editing your post. These are just kids we are talking about.

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:57 am

Danny Mattson

MnPride2 · Post by **MnPride2** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:50 am

"I heard he is one concussion away from having to hang them up."

I know he`s had at least 2...

"Isn't Bjugstad a '92? Is he even eligible for Mr. Hockey yet?? "

yup,but isn`t the the topic "future mr. hockey"...?

"I'm not sure if it was as much the gophers decision as it was his own. three years is a long time to be away from home and then add on some years of college. I'm sure he will develop just fine without the extra year of NTDP"

That`s what i heard from a pretty reliable source...

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:23 am

Although a lot can change through the course of the season, I'm going to shorten my prediction list. Though Leddy is my frontrunner for defensemen, I think the forward class is too deep to pick any blueliner. And, as far as I know, the class and classroom character of the players on my list is sound, so that just leaves their actually hockey performance and how the scouts and coaches project them to do after HS. So now that we have a better idea of who is NOT going to juniors, this is my shortened prediction list...

Danny Mattson- Academy Of Holy Angels
- Danny should be able to put up some numbers, but AHA will have to have an improved season (and likely make State) for him to have a chance.

Zach Budish- Edina
- Assuming Zach keeps pace with Everson and Lee, he should be the frontrunner amongst all candidates including his teammates. Everson and Lee were already passed over in the NHL draft, which indicates that the scouts will favor Zach in the voting process.

Tyler Pitlick- Centennial
- Tyler did what he needed to do in getting named to the USA U18 Select Team, now he just has to dominate his competition to take the lead.

Ben Hanowski- Little Falls
- The big IF for Ben is can he put up triple digit points without his brother or Festler? If he can, the voters will have to justify to themselves why they AREN'T voting for him.

I didn't name any of the Roseau boys because Oliver projects as the better pro but Landman should put up better numbers, thereby cancelling eachother out. Again, these are just predictions, and a lot can change throughout the course of the season.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:19 am

The Exiled One wrote:Although a lot can change through the course of the season, I'm going to shorten my prediction list. Though Leddy is my frontrunner for defensemen, I think the forward class is too deep to pick any blueliner. And, as far as I know, the class and classroom character of the players on my list is sound, so that just leaves their actually hockey performance and how the scouts and coaches project them to do after HS. So now that we have a better idea of who is NOT going to juniors, this is my shortened prediction list...

Danny Mattson- Academy Of Holy Angels
- Danny should be able to put up some numbers, but AHA will have to have an improved season (and likely make State) for him to have a chance.

Zach Budish- Edina
- Assuming Zach keeps pace with Everson and Lee, he should be the frontrunner amongst all candidates including his teammates. Everson and Lee were already passed over in the NHL draft, which indicates that the scouts will favor Zach in the voting process.

Tyler Pitlick- Centennial
- Tyler did what he needed to do in getting named to the USA U18 Select Team, now he just has to dominate his competition to take the lead.

Ben Hanowski- Little Falls
- The big IF for Ben is can he put up triple digit points without his brother or Festler? If he can, the voters will have to justify to themselves why they AREN'T voting for him.

I didn't name any of the Roseau boys because Oliver projects as the better pro but Landman should put up better numbers, thereby cancelling eachother out. Again, these are just predictions, and a lot can change throughout the course of the season.

Great group of names

Additions:

Leddy, US Under 17 & 18 selection and, I believe the only one of the bunch invited to play at NTDP.

Oliver, US Under 17 & 18 selection and committed to St. Cloud State. Landman is talented, but will more than likely follow behind Oliver.

Lapic? Should put up big numbers. The size of his school might hold him back.

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:29 pm

breakout wrote:Lapic? Should put up big numbers. The size of his school might hold him back.

Will Lapic be healthy enough given his current situation? Seems like that is a big question mark from what I hear.

As for Hanowski, I am sure he'll have great numbers. But I hardly see it being a situation where voters would have to justify why not to vote for him. For instance, it is painfully clear that of the names mentioned in the last few posts, he plays far and away the weakest schedule. You could very easily make the case that some of the other candidates who play in more difficult conferences could put up similar or better numbers under similar circumstances.

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:37 pm

Gopher Blog wrote:
breakout wrote:Lapic? Should put up big numbers. The size of his school might hold him back.
Will Lapic be healthy enough given his current situation? Seems like that is a big question mark from what I hear.

As for Hanowski, I am sure he'll have great numbers. But I hardly see it being a situation where voters would have to justify why not to vote for him. For instance, it is painfully clear that of the names mentioned in the last few posts, he plays far and away the weakest schedule. You could very easily make the case that some of the other candidates who play in more difficult conferences could put up similar or better numbers under similar circumstances.

Wouldn't that qualify as their justification for not voting for him?

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:46 pm

When did the voters ever have to justify anything in the past?

I think it is clear they haven't focused as heavily on the statistical stuff as you do... and they certainly didn't have to justify anything then either. Particularly when you consider that defensemen have won the last four times and they don't tend to be the top point guys.

A rather curious statement on your part to act like they have to justify not voting for a guy just because of his points. As if that is the main guideline.

Then again, I have to remember you use stats as a guide.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:49 pm

Gopher Blog wrote:When did the voters ever have to justify anything in the past?

I think it is clear they haven't focused as heavily on the statistical stuff as you do... and they certainly didn't have to justify anything then either. Particularly when you consider that defensemen have won the last four times and they don't tend to be the top point guys.

A rather curious statement on your part to act like they have to justify not voting for a guy just because of his points.

Don't NHL types have a say in Mr. Hockey?

Mr. Hockey, Aaron Ness was drafed higher than any MN forward. Jake Gardiner, a runner up was a higher draft pick. Lots of arguements to be made.

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:53 pm

breakout wrote:Don't NHL types have a say in Mr. Hockey?

Yes. Which is all the more reason why the stats part of the equation is not quite the major deal some seem to make it into. If that was the issue, we'd have seen guys from Silver Bay or Morris winning it in recent years.

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:04 pm

Gopher Blog wrote:When did the voters ever have to justify anything in the past?

Except for people with pathological disorders, every action every person takes has to be justified to themselves. I never claimed they had to justify it to anybody else.

Gopher Blog wrote:I think it is clear they haven't focused as heavily on the statistical stuff as you do... and they certainly didn't have to justify anything then either. Particularly when you consider that defensemen have won the last four times and they don't tend to be the top point guys.

I'll concede that for two of the four that's true, but Ness and Fischer were the highest scoring players on their respective teams.

Like I said before, they're just predictions. Care to make any before criticizing mine?

Doglover · Post by **Doglover** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:54 pm

Exiled One - Great list - great comments. It will be a fun season.

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