Frazee.................?

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:41 am

Frazee had work ethic issues before he showed up at the U of M. He was never known as very dedicated to getting in top shape for the season, etc. He pretty much lived off of his God given talent the whole way. But the higher up you get, the more hard work and preparation counts. I believe more than anything, this is what is Frazee's issue.

Of course, his mental focus/toughness could use some work too.

Blue&Gold · Post by **Blue&Gold** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:45 am

Gopher Blog wrote:Frazee had work ethic issues before he showed up at the U of M. He was never known as very dedicated to getting in top shape for the season, etc. He pretty much lived off of his God given talent the whole way. But the higher up you get, the more hard work and preparation counts. I believe more than anything, this is what is Frazee's issue.

Of course, his mental focus/toughness could use some work too.

I also think that some of these young men read all the press stuff (including these forums) and start to believe what they read. At one point all you read about Frazee was that he was the "next coming" and would be taking whatever team he was on to the championship level. Pretty soon the player stops working to reach the next level because they think that they're already there.

Thoughts? Agree of disagree?

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:46 pm

I really don't know because I don't who does or does not read these kinds of forums. I suppose anything is possible.

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:00 am

Brent Solei should be the goalie!

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:41 pm

Lucia said after Friday's game that it was a 3 man battle for goalie now. Solei should be given another shot, Frazee hasn't been consistant enough and has been bad at times. Maybe not dressing him in a WCHA game will get a message through to him.

Bash Brother · Post by **Bash Brother** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:53 pm

So the three goalies battling for the starting spot are. . .

Kangas
Solei
anybody but frazee

warrior2132 · Post by **warrior2132** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:25 pm

mistake on lucia for taking frazze over stalock

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:57 pm

Frazee let in one from the redline then another was waved off for offsides that he kicked at and missed that was shot from beyond the far blueline. Lucia pulled him after that. I hope we've seen the last of Frazee.

Joey (nine toes) Marcoux · Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:25 pm

Frazee is working his way to the bottem of the rotation, and doing it with style

Bash Brother · Post by **Bash Brother** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:26 pm

Can they take is scholarship away and give it to jake gardiner?

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:00 am

goldy313 wrote:Frazee let in one from the redline then another was waved off for offsides that he kicked at and missed that was shot from beyond the far blueline. Lucia pulled him after that. I hope we've seen the last of Frazee.

I don't think Frazee will be back next year. Just a hunch but I think New Jersey will want to get him in their system and Frazee will want to go (he has not been the most dedicated college guy as it is). I am sure New Jersey is concerned since they spent (or wasted... depending on how you look at it) a second round pick on him. I don't blame the coaching because Stauber has done a good job with goalies that had less natural ability than Frazee. If he can teach less talented goalies and get pretty good results, Frazee should be able to achieve similar if the work ethic is there (which has been his problem in the past).

Unless Frazee develops some better traits (mental toughness, ability to focus, ability to rebound from a failure, etc), he is not going to make it very far in the pros.

GRhawky · Post by **GRhawky** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:31 am

Its not good when teams start chanting "worse than frazee!" to the opponents goalie.

I heard that chant twice tonight at the Bulldogs game.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:23 am

EREmpireStrikesBack wrote:Brent Solei should be the goalie!

He should move ahead of Frazee. What a pathetic example of goal tending last night vs. St. Cloud.

He won't play pro. He doesn't have the work ethic to get there.

pacman · Post by **pacman** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:33 pm

What is Lucia's Deal here, Does he have a Vendetta against Solei or somethng, Start the Fricken Kid, as a Gophers fan i feel safer knowing that we can get a win with him in net more than Frazee.

WayOutWest · Post by **WayOutWest** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:22 am

Gopher Blog wrote:
goldy313 wrote:Frazee let in one from the redline then another was waved off for offsides that he kicked at and missed that was shot from beyond the far blueline. Lucia pulled him after that. I hope we've seen the last of Frazee.
I don't think Frazee will be back next year. Just a hunch but I think New Jersey will want to get him in their system and Frazee will want to go (he has not been the most dedicated college guy as it is). I am sure New Jersey is concerned since they spent (or wasted... depending on how you look at it) a second round pick on him. I don't blame the coaching because Stauber has done a good job with goalies that had less natural ability than Frazee. If he can teach less talented goalies and get pretty good results, Frazee should be able to achieve similar if the work ethic is there (which has been his problem in the past).

Unless Frazee develops some better traits (mental toughness, ability to focus, ability to rebound from a failure, etc), he is not going to make it very far in the pros.

Agreed. Too bad, too. This guy has shown some signs of brilliance in his short career here. But lately, he has been flat out awful..........totally seeming to lose focus at times.
Regardless of whether or not New Jersey brings him in, he has got to leave the Gopher program. He is a cancer, at this point. You just can't have the kind of effort he displayed on Saturday, "showcased" for the remainder of the team. Sit him, or boot him, but don't dare start him until he at least shows a MARKED increase in drive and focus in practice.

Little Falls Fan · Post by **Little Falls Fan** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:35 am

Kangas and Solei are very solid goaltenders, but so is Frazee he really is a good goalie. He's just having a hard go of things. If i were the opposition playing against the gophers and Frazee was playing between the pipes i would take shots from the blue line and beyond. Brent Solei showed that he was a very good goalie even though he is small the last game he played. If i were Coach Lucia i would give Brent a few more games and just see what he can do. Maybe Solei is just what the Gophers need to start winning games.

pacman · Post by **pacman** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:44 pm

Frazee was better last season when he had a Senior like Kellen Briggs, he knew he wasnt going to be thrown in the starting job, i think Frazee isnt ready for starting, the kids only a Junior, Let Solei take his place, let Frazee Sit and Learn how to goaltend from Solei.

fiveforfighting · Post by **fiveforfighting** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:57 am

The fraz shouldn't touch the ice, Kangas all the way!

Ben Dover · Post by **Ben Dover** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:07 am

fiveforfighting wrote:The fraz shouldn't touch the ice, Kangas all the way!

I disagree, Frazee is alot better of a goaltender than Kangas, and alot more consistant.

theref · Post by **theref** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:21 am

Ben Dover wrote:
fiveforfighting wrote:The fraz shouldn't touch the ice, Kangas all the way!
I disagree, Frazee is alot better of a goaltender than Kangas, and alot more consistant.

Then you apparently don't watch a lot of college hockey this season because Jeff Frazee is a model for inconsistancy.

Ben Dover · Post by **Ben Dover** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:23 am

Oh really? Sweet.

bubblehockey27 · Post by **bubblehockey27** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:41 am

theref wrote:
Ben Dover wrote:
fiveforfighting wrote:The fraz shouldn't touch the ice, Kangas all the way!
I disagree, Frazee is alot better of a goaltender than Kangas, and alot more consistant.
Then you apparently don't watch a lot of college hockey this season because Jeff Frazee is a model for inconsistancy.

True that...he should be third string.

watchdog · Post by **watchdog** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:17 am

i brought up this issue at the beginning of the year and was jumped on hard ive been laughing ever since. hes done it all year two softies a game!!!!!

SECHockeyFan · Post by **SECHockeyFan** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:06 pm

Alex Kangas is the future of Gopher hockey. He gets better each time I've watched him play.

nikebauer_07 · Post by **nikebauer_07** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:57 pm

Frazee can kiss his career at the U goodbye.